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Old 12-06-2012, 03:14 AM   #1
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I've been doing a bit of research, and I believe that the spring rate for Suspension Techniques are about 335lb. So i'm guessing thats not too stiff of a coilover considering its more of a DD coilover than full on performance.

So my question is what would be an adequate swaybar combo for someone who DDs his car and planning to go tracking in a year or so.

I was originally going to go with 24f/22r but after reading this thread.

http://www.wrxforums.com/forums/13-h...-endlinks.html

I may go with a 22f/22r.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:52 AM   #2
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with a GD if anything you want to go larger in the rear.

IMO get 22 or 24 adjustables (or at least adjustable at the back) and mount it on whatever hole you like the feel of best. i like the feel of 22 up front and a rear 22 at its stiffest setting. you may like something different.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:06 PM   #3
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I have a 22mm fixed and a 24mm adjustable rear set at the middle setting and I love the way the car feels. Definitely go with adjustable bars, everyone is different in how they like their car to act. I come from a rear wheel drive car and prefer the car to oversteer.

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Old 12-07-2012, 07:06 AM   #4
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I've heard of people doing that actually, but when Im not a big fan of the RWD. That's why I was going to go larger in the front.
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:35 AM   #5
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they have mild understeer even with equals. you don't want any bigger in the front of a GD.
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:19 AM   #6
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they have mild understeer even with equals. you don't want any bigger in the front of a GD.
Subjective.

Depends on how you want the car set up and for what uses. My front bar is larger and suits me.
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:01 PM   #7
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Subjective.

Depends on how you want the car set up and for what uses. My front bar is larger and suits me.
hence why i said get equals and get them adjustable...
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:21 AM   #8
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Yeah I'm probably going to go with the equals, also do you guys know how cusco compares to whiteline in terms of quality?
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:53 AM   #9
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one of the biggest mistakes that i see people make is by using too much swaybar...makes the ride harsh on uneven and broken pavement...and also can lead to unpredictible handling
like snap oversteer
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:05 AM   #10
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Yeah I'm probably going to go with the equals, also do you guys know how cusco compares to whiteline in terms of quality?
a hunk of metal is a hunk of metal. i've always used whiteline.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:56 AM   #11
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yeah I think going with a 22/22 will be good enough for me.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:21 AM   #12
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yeah I think going with a 22/22 will be good enough for me.

personally....i thought 22 was too big for the gd for the street...i tried it and looked for a 21

i have a 21 and i think its just fine....and an adjustable 21-24 rear that i have one notch from full stiff

its pretty neutral

i would NOT get any adjustable front bar...too many fitment problems
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Old 12-10-2012, 05:57 AM   #13
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yeah but who cares about the street
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:07 PM   #14
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On my GD I ran coil-overs with 450# frt and 375# rear springs, which were great for the street and moderate auto-x. The sway bar choice depends on your overall chassis stiffness. I was running lower H brace, strut brace, mid-chassis brace, rear chassis brace, and upgraded motor, transmission and rear diff mounts...so the chassis was stiff!!

Originally I was running 22mm frt and rear swaybars (Cusco) and the rears were set mid-point (22mm). After I intsalled the mid-chassis and rear braces I had to soften the rear bar to the softest setting (20mm) for the best balance for high speed street/mtn driving.

If you have a significant amount of bracing a 22mm frt and rear is fine (both should be adjustable), but if you're running minimal bracing I'd go 24mm front and rear (both adjustable) to offset/control body flex.

Personally, I found a bigger rear bar great for Auto-x, where you want to rotate the rear at low speed, but unsettling for higher speed street cornering. In the end it depends on how you're going to use the car, your driving style and the overall chassis stiffness.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:10 PM   #15
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Go to this link for some good feedback on swaybars:

http://www.wrxforums.com/forums/13-h...-endlinks.html
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:30 PM   #16
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all this depends on your setup.

I'm not sure about any bracing. but if you don't track your car.. a bigger front sway will give you the impression of less understeer because of a better steering response/turn in. Not sure if people still run the big bar setup for auto x as they used to, but for tracking, i've felt the traditional bigger bar in the rear is better suited for less understeer at higher speeds.
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:09 AM   #17
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link is broken!
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I couldn't get it to work either, but if you'll do the following you can access it.

1) Go to WRXforums.com
2) Go to section called 3G and click on handling technology
3) Go to swaybars
4) if you still can't find it go to endlinks.

Your looking for thread from Cyngus Performance dated 3-8-11 called Swaybars and endlinks.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:58 PM   #19
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I couldn't get it to work either, but if you'll do the following you can access it.

1) Go to WRXforums.com
2) Go to section called 3G and click on handling technology
3) Go to swaybars
4) if you still can't find it go to endlinks.

Your looking for thread from Cyngus Performance dated 3-8-11 called Swaybars and endlinks.
there was an extra 7 in it, here's the correct link:
http://www.wrxforums.com/forums/13-h...-endlinks.html
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:26 PM   #20
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Ooh i've seen that, that's where I kind of got the idea for the 24/22.
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