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Old 12-10-2012, 10:48 AM   #1
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Anyone catch this on Velocity in the last few days? I'm not up on my World Rally history but I thought this was very interesting regarding the rise and fall of Group B rallying. One quote that stuck in my head from a former world champ (paraphrased):

"In '73, I drove a car that had 130 brake horsepower. In '86 I drive one that had 530 brake horsepower. But the roads were the same. The potholes were the same. The curbs were the same."

Crazy!
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:26 AM   #2
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Well then I would assume they would be able to complete the routes in less time w/nearly 4 times the HP no?
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:09 PM   #3
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Group B cars were so much faster that the drivers could hardly control them. The explosion of rallying's popularity brought out absolutely massive live crowds -- imagine a whole football stadium's worth of spectators, only lined up along narrow roads with stone walls, cliffs, etc. 4WD and turbo technology were so new then, a 500+ hp car with weird AWD and weird diffs...there were a lot of cars flying off the road and into crowds = Very Bad Sheet Happened.

Some of the videos from mid-1980s were effing insane...huge crowds filling the roads ahead of airborne 500-hp quattros and Lancias, with people scrambling to (barely) get out of the way....it was like minnows fleeing from an oncoming shark, except it was people not fish involved...bad bad bad.

The average European's sense of risk and propriety is a lot different from the USA...but even then the carnage caused widespread outrage, which nearly caused rallying to be banned entirely. The governing bodies of motorsport really had to clamp down and somehow get the cars going slower than the crazy Group B monsters.

THIS kind of craziness could not possibly continue.......


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Old 12-10-2012, 12:24 PM   #4
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THIS kind of craziness could not possibly continue.......
I believe it was Walther Rohl who said my quote above, now that I think about it.

Amazing footwork in that vid!
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:07 PM   #5
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I happened to DVR that show actually. Mainly because I like audi and renault.
Crazy stuff eh, 500 hp awd and passive awd with poor handling!
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:11 PM   #6
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the cars were amazing in a straight line, but they did not handle all that well with all that power, and the awd being not very good, they were hard to control.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:59 PM   #7
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Too Fast to Race is another great movie about it.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:11 PM   #8
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Yeah I would second Too Fast to Race, actually have it on VHS!
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:47 PM   #9
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I've seen that one on teh YouTubes.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:20 PM   #10
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They have an F1 version of this show too.
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