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Old 12-06-2012, 09:51 AM   #51
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This is indeed a very cool idea but I dont understand why an Ipad requires an internet connection to use navigation. Is the GPS that week that it is not reliable without web assistance? My Toshiba Thrive links up and navigates just fine on the open road with no hotspot

As a side note, some DD headunit Navis are not so bad such as the Pioneer AVIC units, especially after a little assistance (AVIC 411), and some even include features not available on google maps such as 3d rendering of buildings and a useful POI display (with logos).


Good luck with your mod I hope all goes well!

The WiFi only model does not have GPS built in.

The internet connection is need for some navigation/maps as they down load them as you go. There are some Apps that pre load the maps, but it's nice not to have to worry about that and pick a destination on the fly. And the new Apple maps has 3D rendering of some areas. For POI, you can search for anything you want and it will always be up to date.

I currently have the AVIC-Z140BH installed. It is nice, but it's not meeting my requirements and the navigation is not the greatest on that unit IMO.

Speaking of my AVIC-Z140BH, is anyone interested in buying it?
The steering wheel module and harness will be all included, so all you basically have to do is plug in the harness and you're all set to go!



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but doesnt the physical ipad unit change in a couple of years time after its been release? i have seen those big ones installed in some wrx and sti's and now they are considered outdated. plus they are huge with lots of time and money in the bezel. new bezel and redo it with the ipad mini?

ok, you got my attention. im am interested in seeing this in action. what apps are available for use in the car?
Yeah, the iPad mini will get out dated in a year anyways. But, it will still be ahead of the touch screen radio technology for a while. As for apps, any of them? I will be checking out a few navigation apps to see which one is the best of me. There are some other apps that you can monitor your car with a dongle that plugs into the car.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:48 PM   #52
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the app that allows us to monitor the car is something i would be interested in.

what about the samsung? less hype so less expensive. they look very similar
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:55 PM   #53
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the app that allows us to monitor the car is something i would be interested in.

what about the samsung? less hype so less expensive. they look very similar
DashCommand was the name of the app.

As far as samsung, it's all personal preference. I'm in the Apple ecosystem and like the UI.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:45 PM   #54
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As for apps, any of them? I will be checking out a few navigation apps to see which one is the best of me.
Motion X GPS Drive is a good one.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:42 PM   #55
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Well the guys that I linked a video to in my first post did an install of the iPad mini in an STI. They are definitely helping my get a better idea on how to build something as I've never worked with fiberglass or body filler. Still not a big fan of how it sticks out on top though.

Does anyone here own that STI?!


Starts at 40s and then again at 7m30s
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:44 PM   #56
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Some head units have an "app mode" that allows you to have control of your device while it's connected to your radio.
Unfortunately, my double-din does not have this mode.

I was thinking of hooking the iPad mini to the receiver via an AUX cable and then using the USB dongle on my receiver to plug the iPad into to keep it charged. Then just do the magnet mount or the 3 L-bracket fabrication. I figure this would probably be the easiest (although, not the cleanest) way to do it? Any problems with this that I might be overlooking?
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:34 PM   #57
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Using magnets near electronics might not be a good idea. Depending on your setup it might be fine?
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:31 PM   #58
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Using magnets near electronics might not be a good idea. Depending on your setup it might be fine?
I would probably end up doing the 3 L-brackets like in the Nexus install, but I was also considering using magnets and an iPad mini case like previously mentioned (magnets attached to iPad case and then others on the dash). From what I read it shouldn't cause any issues because it's SSD memory and not HDD (uses magnets), but I could be mistaken.

But the bracket mount is probably the safer and easier route to go. I'm more concerned with the setup working using just an AUX and the receiver USB dongle to charge it than the mounting location at this point.
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:15 PM   #59
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Using magnets near electronics might not be a good idea. Depending on your setup it might be fine?
There is a video posted in earlier in the thread, that a professional installer used magents. the Ipads have built in magnets on the outter edges for cases and mounts
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:00 AM   #60
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How's the install going?
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:38 AM   #61
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How's the install going?
I've been out of state this week for work so I haven't gotten anywhere as of yet. Should start working on it next week. At the least creating the test pan/mold and getting the fitting correct on everything. I'm really really anxious to get this finished and working.

The guys that I originally linked the video from have came up with another modifacation to the "float mount" so it'd be easier to pop in and out. I really like their idea, but don't think it'll work with what I want to do with the radio behind the iPad.

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Old 12-13-2012, 11:47 AM   #62
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For those whose are interested in getting those wireless OBD II dongles to use with the tablets. I recently did some research on this as I wanted to see if there's something I can use to monitor my boost through my android or ios devices. So after about 30 min I found there are 2 types of OBD II wireless dongle.

For Apple iOS users your only option is WiFi OBD II dongles. They work however the data transmit rate is slower so your data isn't very accurate to real time. Due to Apple's restriction on Bluetooth devices so no Bluetooth OBD dongle available for iOS.

For Android users you're in luck because you can use both Bluetooth and WiFi dongles. Bluetooth is superior in data transferring speed so your data will be a bit more accurate in related to real time.

So if you're deciding on what type of tablet you want to get for similar project with OP I would recommend Android tablets if you want to have the better Car Monitor function.
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:48 AM   #63
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that quick release idea is pretty sweet.

i know on their (the guys from the video) website they have a 90 bend elbow plug thingy that they developed for the old ipad installs. so it could charge and play music with out have a cord sticking out. They or someone needs to get on that for the new plug. you could fiber glass it right into the pan so it would be strong and not move. and you could probably fiberglass set an aux headphone jack cord in place too. Instead of streaming threw blue tooth if need. just some ideas i had been contemplating
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:48 PM   #64
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that quick release idea is pretty sweet.

i know on their (the guys from the video) website they have a 90 bend elbow plug thingy that they developed for the old ipad installs. so it could charge and play music with out have a cord sticking out. They or someone needs to get on that for the new plug. you could fiber glass it right into the pan so it would be strong and not move. and you could probably fiberglass set an aux headphone jack cord in place too. Instead of streaming threw blue tooth if need. just some ideas i had been contemplating

I found somebody that made a 90 lightning bend using an adapter

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Old 12-13-2012, 11:14 PM   #65
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Lightning adapters are pretty easy to get in a 90 degree bend, using bondo to help set it at the desired angle isn't too hard. I had to do that on my IP5 dock (work in progress):


Regarding the charging solution:
I have a triple 12v adapter hardwired to the fusebox, and am charging the phone/dock via a 2.1a 12v-to-USB charger(all hidden in the dash). If you use Nav on the iProducts, a regular 1a charger won't be able to keep the battery topped off.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:36 PM   #66
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Bought an iPhone5 dock from here to see if it had a 90 connector on the inside that I could use.

It did!





Should be starting work on everything this week!
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:18 PM   #67
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:32 PM   #68
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I had a friend of mine created the mold of the recessed part where the radio will be. So this, the iPad and wood, is what I'll use for a mold when I start fiberglassing.

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Will you have access to the screen lock button with your current planned setup? The best solution I've had for my integrated iPod Touch right now is to have it jailbroken, and setup it up such that it auto unlocks the screen when it receives power from the HU, and auto locks the screen when it stops charging:

The auto screen lock time is set to "never" as well.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:45 PM   #70
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Will you have access to the screen lock button with your current planned setup? The best solution I've had for my integrated iPod Touch right now is to have it jailbroken, and setup it up such that it auto unlocks the screen when it receives power from the HU, and auto locks the screen when it stops charging:

The auto screen lock time is set to "never" as well.
Good point, I was thinking about that. I was going to have a little indent on the right hand side to help pop out the iPad. It was originally going going to be in the right center as seen in my first mockups, but I'm going to put it on the bottom right where that screen lock button is so I can access that.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:49 PM   #71
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Sounds like that orientation would be much better. Do you also plan to have the lightning adapter on a pivot? If it's on a fixed mount, it would be near impossible to insert the connector/disconnect the iPad.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:53 PM   #72
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Sounds like that orientation would be much better. Do you also plan to have the lightning adapter on a pivot? If it's on a fixed mount, it would be near impossible to insert the connector/disconnect the iPad.
That's one thing I have to figure out is out to have the lighting adapter on a pivot... It needs to be durable enough for prolong usage. It'd be nice when the iPad is out that the adapter is angled out in the correct angle so it's easier to insert. I'm open to any suggestions...

I also figured with it plugged in I don't need a lip at the bottom as that will hold it in.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:59 PM   #73
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If you use the original lightning cable, you can doubleside tape a small wedge the width of the lightning connector to the actual lightning connector, mold the "pocket" for the connector around that setup, remove the wedge, and secure the cable so it can't be pulled through the hole. That way you'll have a "pocket" which will allow the connector to pivot from the mounted position to the unmounted position.

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Old 12-18-2012, 08:28 PM   #74
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If you use the original lightning cable, you can doubleside tape a small wedge the width of the lightning connector to the actual lightning connector, mold the "pocket" for the connector around that setup, remove the wedge, and secure the cable so it can't be pulled through the hole. That way you'll have a "pocket" which will allow the connector to pivot from the mounted position to the unmounted position.

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Thanks for the visual I do see what you mean. There is not much room on the left for a normal lighting connector, that's why I wanted to find a 90 version. Do you have any ideas on what I could use for a durable "hinge"?
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:42 PM   #75
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Sorry bud, I can't think of anything that's durable, since inserting/unplugging is going to cause quite a bit of stress on whatever mini-hinge mechanism that's going to be there.
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