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Old 12-11-2012, 11:01 AM   #26
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Unfortunately for Honda.. saying that a new Dart drives better than a current Civic isn't saying much.
That's actually saying a lot for Honda. They've built a loyal customer base that doesn't care about the actual car, who will just buy it because it has a Honda badge. That's a great position to be in.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:43 AM   #27
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Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne hoped that Dart Rallye models with a 1.4-liter turbo-four engine and manual transmission will help highlight the Dart’s sporting Alfa Romeo heritage

This right here is what is so very wrong about this car...
This right here is what's so very wrong about Marchionne. I'm European myself and sympathize with him. But setting that aside... In this instance, he seems to have no clue what the American market is about, and wants to sell what's attractive back home, instead of what sells cars here. This does not bode well for Chrysler.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:48 AM   #28
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Why don't you send those customers to our lot so we can get rid of these old age manuals we have.....please!!!!
Are you serious? Can't tell if you're talking about the BRZ or other models... hope it's the latter... I thought the BRZ manuals are selling well
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:23 PM   #29
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Many car buyers just want to go and buy a car on that day, at that moment. A recent study showed 30 percent of new car buyers bought the car before ever taking a test drive in it. That's absolutly insane. Automakers produce cars that sell on the lot. The days of ordering a car and specing it out to what you want are gone due to manufacturing technique and it not being advantageous to the company. It's not the automakers fault. They're responding to the consumers who suck. In Japan dealerships only have a few cars (generally one from each model). You test drive it, and then when you decidde you order one. Then you wait. That **** doesn'y fly in the US unless it's a high-performance model that is usually the red-headed step child of the family.
I was referring to whole cars not options.

I understand the educated, enthusiast buyer is far outnumbered by the blind deaf and dumb but, some ideas posted could be awesome sales hits. Diesel light duty pickups like the tacoma, more wagons, etc.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:12 PM   #30
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That's actually saying a lot for Honda. They've built a loyal customer base that doesn't care about the actual car, who will just buy it because it has a Honda badge. That's a great position to be in.
+1.
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:56 AM   #31
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Part of the fail is the name "Dart" That was an old POS, they have a fresh new product on their hands, give it a new identity.


d00000000000d.....the old Darts could be had in REAL high performance versions....maybe you just dont know what you are talking about

jesus...the dart was a real hot rod of the day
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:23 AM   #32
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I am also a big fan of the Dart, I love classic Mopars.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:27 AM   #33
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wonder if it comes with a slant six and three on the tree?
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:35 AM   #34
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Wow you guys have much higher expectations of this car than I do. When I saw this car it screamed Dodge Neon come back from the dead. I picture it in Urban area's such as walmart driven by the extremely obese.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:50 AM   #35
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wonder if it comes with a slant six and three on the tree?
I would take the slant six with the bulletproof Push Button Transmission! Had it in a Valiant and loved it!
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:52 AM   #36
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^^^Yup, that slant 6 was a tank and the 3 speed auto was very trouble free. I had a friend in high school "over 20 years ago" that had a Volare with the slant 6 with auto. We lived in Wisconsin, so he needed a couple extra Volares for doors, fenders and the odd breakdown, but overall, the car was tough.
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:55 AM   #37
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I can remember lining up against things like Camaros and Mustangs at the corner, flooring it in Neutral and punching the number 1. Usually left some tire smoke and then got blown away by what ever I was lined up against. Of course, being a dick even then, I knew where the cops were and never got the tickets.
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:52 PM   #38
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If Dodge wants to boost Dart sales, they need to get the heavily discounted Avengers off the lots.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:32 PM   #39
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Of course, being a dick even then, I knew where the cops were and never got the tickets.
You're a private eye?
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:50 PM   #40
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Wow you guys have much higher expectations of this car than I do. When I saw this car it screamed Dodge Neon come back from the dead. I picture it in Urban area's such as walmart driven by the extremely obese.
Killing the Neon and replacing it with the Caliber was one of Dodges dumbest moves. This could have been a resurrected Neon but nooooooo they have to call it a Dart
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Old 02-05-2013, 05:04 PM   #41
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That's actually saying a lot for Honda. They've built a loyal customer base that doesn't care about the actual car, who will just buy it because it has a Honda badge. That's a great position to be in.
Wait a minute, isn't that Toyota's gig?
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:55 PM   #42
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You're a private eye?
And not a very good one!
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lets be honest here, can Chrysler ever be worried about low sales numbers on any model? Has anyone driven a chrysler lately? I had an avenger loaner for about a week and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. It was as slow as, had more body roll than and got about the same fuel economy as my 2002 Ford explorer that was in the shop getting repaired, because I got rear ended by a Dodge 1500 with sub-par brakes.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:18 PM   #44
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d00000000000d.....the old Darts could be had in REAL high performance versions....maybe you just dont know what you are talking about

jesus...the dart was a real hot rod of the day
IF ANYTHING, the current one isn't worthy of the the old name. It's wrong wheel drive and only comes w/ 4 doors... The new Dart should've been a small RWD coupe and sedan starting w/ 200 hp for the base and 300+ for the GTS model. Should've been a BRZ/FR-S competitor...
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