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Old 12-11-2012, 11:43 AM   #1601
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The 276hp limit for Japanese cars was lifted in 2004 so all the evo's and sti's have been <300hp for too long i think! But what do I know, probably have emissions and fuel consumption to worry about....

In 92 the e36 m3 got pumped from 200hp to 240hp in North America and almost 300 in other countries. Then in 2001 the e46 gets 330hp. And in 2007 the e92 gets 414hp v8. Now for 2013 more powerful turbo 6 cylinder coming out.

Not to mention all the special edition m3's like the csl or gtr versions that are lighter and more powerful. All Subaru does is change some badges and have a different color and call it a cool limited edition car. STI needs to get cooler now!!
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:46 AM   #1602
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^^ you forgot to list how the price has jumped up over and over for that car and how much those "packages" cost
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:53 AM   #1603
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^^ you forgot to list how the price has jumped up over and over for that car and how much those "packages" cost
Well it is a Motorsport car. Can always buy like a 330 or 335 if you don't want to pay for the M.

Even in the 90's the m3 was already 40k. They were expensive from the start
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:13 PM   #1604
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Can you say German? The Deutschmark has almost always kicked azz on the US dollar. They are nice cars for sure! I had 3 different 2002's in the day, a 1973, 1971 and the last being a 1971 2002 Tii European version with a close ratio 5 speed with reverse in the #1 spot and 5th wear 4th normally resides. Super fun 2000 lb. car with 150 HP!

Agreed though since we 're making a Subaru wish list, you guys are right on with the STI getting the forged internals and maybe a closed deck as well. I like what you outlined drew!
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:55 PM   #1605
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Dogleg first gear...Nice. That's a racecar right there. I wouldn't mind seeing that in our cars.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:02 PM   #1606
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Dogleg first gear...Nice. That's a racecar right there. I wouldn't mind seeing that in our cars.
Yep it was and agreed! So when are you getting your SSLR and is it a shortblock or longblock? I have a couple hundred more miles to put on my new SSLR build and then Junior is tuning it next Monday! Oh boy, it should be fun
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:04 PM   #1607
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Dogleg?
Do you mean Dog Tooth engagement?
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:09 PM   #1608
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No dog leg, that's the up and over shift pattern on the euro race boxes.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:10 PM   #1609
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It was a pretty good box on that car, not as strong as our 6 speeds but pretty stout!
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:14 PM   #1610
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aaah. That makes more sense. I was wondering!
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:23 PM   #1611
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Damn, all this BMW talk has got me wishing I never sold my euro 02 Tii. the frickin thing was a slot car for sure. Maybe I could have built it like this one.
and with only 8 valves
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:00 PM   #1612
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Dogleg?
Do you mean Dog Tooth engagement?
Wait, I knew something Dom didn't know?!?! What is this world coming to?!

Is this real life?
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:09 PM   #1613
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You're dreaming, quick wake up before you hit the ground.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:02 PM   #1614
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If I'm dreaming, where's all the wimmenz...

I can't wait to get my motor!
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:38 PM   #1615
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wait wimmen or motor wimmen or motor....ahh forget it
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:47 PM   #1616
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Haha, the digression! My friend John had a gorgeous 2002, completely stripped with a built motor. That thing was a sideways machine lol.

If I think about it the new STI, using the FA engine should be at the 365hp mark at least, I mean it's time they stepped up.

Ultimately the STI is a fast car but I think it needs forged internals, I doubt the cost would go up that mych
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:48 PM   #1617
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If I'm dreaming, where's all the wimmenz...

I can't wait to get my motor!
I can tell. You call more than anyone to ask questions already answered...
And you're getting the quicker timeline. I couldn't imagine how much I would hear from you if you had to wait like everyone else.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:25 PM   #1618
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I can tell. You call more than anyone to ask questions already answered...
And you're getting the quicker timeline. I couldn't imagine how much I would hear from you if you had to wait like everyone else.
Haha sounds like me!

Although I was pretty good during my build, I didn't speak with the guys much. It was a case of here is my budget you guys do what's best
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:33 PM   #1619
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Haha, my case was something like "I need a shortblock yesterday." I think I've called at least once or twice a week since I first ordered it...2 billion questions too.

I'm sorry I'm such a pain in the ass Dom...You know you can just tell me to shut the **** up and sit in my corner I'm probably going to be getting some sort of "Pain in my ass" fee, huh...You're lucky you don't deal with my dad, he asks me about every day what the status of my motor is. Be happy I didn't give him your number
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:34 PM   #1620
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I have caller ID. I'd just stop answering!
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:37 PM   #1621
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Haha..... Dom don't forget to leave some free space in your calendar in spring I need you to come to lovely Canada and tune some cars! Mine most importantly lol. Fingers crossed the 6 speed will be in then and I can feel the full meth fueled fury once more!

Muahaha!!!
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:47 PM   #1622
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Oh, so that's why you didn't pick up when I called today

Just wondering if you got a shipping quote yet...I'm anxious...
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:56 PM   #1623
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Did I mention it's mine and Toms turn to buy the beers? Haha, no shotguns at the breakfast table this time!
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:22 PM   #1624
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You weren't complaining when I broke out the assault rifles!

Drew, if JE hadn't f'd up their piston production by moving it's facility to Ohio and still taking orders as if nothing ever happened, you'd have your engine by now. Instead, you're getting upgraded to the Super H beam long rods and different pistons. So while it's taking a couple days longer than anticipated, you're getting free upgrades.

-Dominic
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:24 PM   #1625
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Oh, so that's why you didn't pick up when I called today
I was at lunch when you called today. Dave answered.

The phone ringers are broken though, so if we don't see the flashy light, we don't know anyone called. We're getting one of those phone ringer amplifier things to make it super loud and extra annoying when people call.
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