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Old 12-12-2012, 11:34 AM   #1
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Default New Transmission. What to buy?

Here's the deal: 2004 WRX Lots of grinding noises, now accompianied by the occasion clicking noise and scraping noise. My mechanic says I need a new transmission. The cost is $4,400 for a new factory tranny. I can get a 90,000 mile tranny for $2,500. My mechanic is looking for a rebuilt tranny.
I don't want to my the 90,000 tranny, so that leaves new or rebuilt.
I'm thinking I would keep the same gearing even if I buy a rebuild.
What kind of quality can I expect from a rebuild? What's a good price? Are there problems I should be aware of buying a rebuild?
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Old 12-12-2012, 11:54 AM   #2
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Is the car modified or raced?

I personally wouldnt install a trans with 90,000 miles on it, you could put RA gears in yours for like $2500 or less and call it a day. I had a 06 wrx with RA gears and it help up to all sorts of abuse.
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Old 12-12-2012, 11:56 AM   #3
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I found in my research that a rebuilt trans is a very risky purchase, I'd go for a used transmission with good history of maintenance if you're looking at money. If you can afford it, I guess get a new one. Subaru transmission have funky tolerances, a lot of master mechanics have problems when rebuilding them, or so I read.
More details on what the grinding noise is, when it happens, how often etc would get you more help. It might be just your transfer gears going. They are pretty easy to replace and not all that pricey.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:05 PM   #4
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Or do a full 6 speed swap like i did recently, cost is more than $4400 though.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:16 PM   #5
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I found in my research that a rebuilt trans is a very risky purchase, I'd go for a used transmission with good history of maintenance if you're looking at money. If you can afford it, I guess get a new one. Subaru transmission have funky tolerances, a lot of master mechanics have problems when rebuilding them, or so I read.
And where, exactly, are you reading that? The tolerances aren't any more funky than any other trans. It's not difficult to rebuild at all if you know what you're doing.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:26 PM   #6
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Thanks for the input. The car came through an auction, so I have no history. (first lesson learned)
The sound is like some something is loose/rattling/grinding. It will go away for a couple minutes and then come back. Sometimes there is a fairly loud clicking. It happens in all gears and happens when coasting in neutral. My mechanic replaced the tran fluid, which he said was very dirty. That did not help (or only very shortly).
I lean toward just buying a new one. I do not know where the rebuild would be coming from. My mechanic is good, but admits he has no connections either.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:23 PM   #7
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A lot of searching will benefit you in the long run, you might find someone locally through your chapter forum who has a good track record for rebuilds.

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Or do a full 6 speed swap like i did recently, cost is more than $4400 though.
I did a full 6 speed swap for under $4k. But it might be hard to find the right prices in a hurry.

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And where, exactly, are you reading that? The tolerances aren't any more funky than any other trans. It's not difficult to rebuild at all if you know what you're doing.
Quite a few threads throughout the drivetrain section. I'm not saying it's 100% true, but I am saying that's what I read. There are also a few people there saying that they tackled it as the first trans rebuild and it worked out fine.

In my personal experience, buying a rebuilt transmission is risky for any car. It doesn't take much in the way of error to cause a rebuilt transmission to only last 5k miles.

Yes, I have rebuilt a few transmissions for my rx7s, so I am aware what a typical rebuild entails.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:31 PM   #8
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Do the following exactly:

1. Choose Start-->Shutdown on your PC
2. Call 240-683-1000 and talk to a PROFESSIONAL. Discuss them rebuilding your box or building a box and shipping it to you or sourcing 100% of the parts for you to have it done locally. They can get you new OEM gears/synchros or LegacyGT gears for a slight upgrade. This will be your cheapest avenue for new OEM gears on the planet earth. MENTION my username when you call....it will save you money.
3. If you aren't 100% happy with your phone call, PM me and I will paypal you $20.
4. Why item 3? Because unlike most of the assclowns on here, my advice is badass and I back up my advice with cash.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:19 PM   #9
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^haha, awesome. I have to agree I was also going to post that you should call the guys at AndrewTech. Super helpful, very nice, excellent work, and more knowledge about transmissions than anyone. Tell them your budget and what you do and you will have a plan by the time you hang up.

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Old 12-12-2012, 02:31 PM   #10
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Una, y u so funny

The guys at AndrewTech really know their stuff. They're really friendly and know what they're doing.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:38 PM   #11
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Una, y u so funny
It's because Ron's the man......

well, duh.....
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Quite a few threads throughout the drivetrain section. I'm not saying it's 100% true, but I am saying that's what I read.
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:22 PM   #13
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:59 AM   #14
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Buy a used transmission.
Bolt it in.
Drive the car.

Unless you need an upgraded gear set, anything else is a waste of time and money.

And RA gears aren't worth spending any more money than stock gears.
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Old 12-13-2012, 12:11 PM   #15
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Too bad you dont live down here. Jerico transmissions is right down the street from the shop i work at. It's very tempting to see what they could do for me
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:54 PM   #17
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Hey, I just wanted to say THANK YOU for all the help.
I followed the Unabomber's suggestion and called AndrewTech. Real good. I can't collect the $20 Unabomber promised. In the end, however, I didn't use them.
Instead - a big THANK YOU to Loyale93 for finding a new tranny for me. It's in my WRX and I'm feelin good.
Now, anyone interested in an old 100k tranny that sounds a little bit like David Lee Roth?
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