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Old 12-23-2012, 12:21 PM   #26
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:32 PM   #27
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Rev match yo!

It's helpful to learn to match revs for easier engagement.

Also you have the option to use a heavy shift knob (stainless steel) to add some weight to throws. This provides a smoother feel and seemingly lighter effort.

Like others said, bushings help a lot. They don't make it less notchy, but you do gain a lot of precision and actually feel exactly what's happening.
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:14 PM   #28
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no way it is near economy my dear...
at the least...hmm..leme think......rear seats dont fold down....its not light as civic...its over 200hp...hmm....only common thing they share is four doors.
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:54 PM   #29
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no way it is near economy my dear...
at the least...hmm..leme think......rear seats dont fold down....its not light as civic...its over 200hp...hmm....only common thing they share is four doors.
If you think the wrx is a performance car and the civic si is not, then you have never driven the si and/or are smoking subaru crack.

Rev matching helps immensely and is pretty much a requirement to shift quickly without overly stressing the transmission. If I'm even a little bit off on a fast shift the synchros pretty much scream their unhappiness until it goes into gear.
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Old 12-23-2012, 03:32 PM   #30
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On my 05 Sti with a Kartboy SS, second gear is pretty smooth, but 1st is ROUGH unless I am at a stop AND stomping on the clutch like I want it to go through the floor. It's even worse on cold mornings.
Blip the throttle slightly or when you're going to put it in gear and it doesn't go in, go back to neutral, take your foot off the clutch, and try again. I don't have this problem with my car unless the engine is still cold. However, my first car with a 5 speed had me do this everytime I went to first LOL.
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Old 12-23-2012, 03:37 PM   #31
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Blip the throttle slightly or when you're going to put it in gear and it doesn't go in, go back to neutral, take your foot off the clutch, and try again. I don't have this problem with my car unless the engine is still cold. However, my first car with a 5 speed had me do this everytime I went to first LOL.
I'll give it a shot! Thanks for the tips.
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Old 12-23-2012, 06:56 PM   #32
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Notch it into 2nd before you put it into 1st. Usually works for me.
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:21 AM   #33
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What is your guy's technique on shifting from 1st to 2nd?
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:39 AM   #34
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What is your guy's technique on shifting from 1st to 2nd?
Im still fairly new at stick. But 1-2, best thing i've learned when driving the car normally is to just let out the clutch slowly. Definitely much slower than i would from 2-3 and so on.


Rev is always the hardest frigging gear to go in. And for some reason, everytime i need to reverse quickly, it always gets stuck
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:36 AM   #35
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Is this just an issue with new wrxs. I have 06 sti and if the clutch is all the way down first has never been a issue going under 10 mph same with reverse it has never been a issue. I will admit to a few grinded gears going into fifth when slowly shifting but with a little force it engaged no problem. I have stock shifter with just the front shifter bushings and group n tranny and motor mounts.
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:57 AM   #36
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If I'm in first and I'm past 25 mph, I shift into third. If I'm trying to maximize the acceleration provided by my car in 2nd gear, I go into second pretty quickly usually around 2800 RPM.

I do the same thing for 2nd to 4th. If I'm past 40 mph in 2nd gear, I go straight to 4th.

The synchros do take some time to warm up. I can't downshift into 1st unless I'm completely stopped when the car is cold, and the transmission in general is kind of uncooperative when the car's been sitting outside in 20 degree weather overnight. Pretty sure this is normal.
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Old 12-24-2012, 03:15 AM   #37
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If I'm in first and I'm past 25 mph, I shift into third. If I'm trying to maximize the acceleration provided by my car in 2nd gear, I go into second pretty quickly usually around 2800 RPM.

I do the same thing for 2nd to 4th. If I'm past 40 mph in 2nd gear, I go straight to 4th.

The synchros do take some time to warm up. I can't downshift into 1st unless I'm completely stopped when the car is cold, and the transmission in general is kind of uncooperative when the car's been sitting outside in 20 degree weather overnight. Pretty sure this is normal.
Lol I like romping it to redline in first and shifting to fourth to get to cruising 35.
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:02 AM   #38
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What is your guy's technique on shifting from 1st to 2nd?

Push clutch, move stick from "1" to "2", release clutch.

Sometimes I skip the clutch part.
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:12 PM   #39
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Smurf's blood really helps out the whole shifting thing. That and hitting the gas before you pop it in 1st while you are still moving.

Oh, and the factory ss works. It's not preventing you from shifting right.
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:42 PM   #40
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Cold transmission fluid ( especially conventional fluid ) does not shift very well. Synthetics are less temperature sensitive, but shifting easier/slower when cold does wonders for transmission internals.

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Old 12-24-2012, 02:51 PM   #41
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I have 2012 sti hatchback I never have a problem shifting gears.
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Old 12-24-2012, 04:55 PM   #42
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:25 PM   #43
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I have 2012 sti hatchback I never have a problem shifting gears.
STi transmission is waaaay smoother than the WRX :P
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:28 PM   #44
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Double clutching and a well matched rev makes getting into 1st from a roll relatively easy.

Subaru's aren't alone with 1st gear "lock out" either. My 96 Maxima 5MT was like this as was my 90 CRX Si. Every G35 and Nissan Z 6MT I've driven is the same way as well.

My Maxima and CRX were pretty notchy as well, much like my WRX. My CRX was surprising since it was a cable shifter and not a direct linkage. The 6MT on the G/Z is really notchy, almost resistant going into some gears.

If you want a buttery smooth shifter, you'll need to go looking for FWD cars with cable shifters. Most every FWD Honda and VW has super smooth shifting. It's also disconnected as hell too.
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:43 PM   #45
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Notch it into 2nd before you put it into 1st. aLWAYS works for me.
^ this.. seriously

I've never seen any professional driver skip gears through acceleration, not sure why you'd want to do that. On decel some do it, but I still prefer to catch each gear

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Old 12-24-2012, 06:21 PM   #46
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^ this.. seriously

I've never seen any professional driver skip gears through acceleration, not sure why you'd want to do that. On decel some do it, but I still prefer to catch each gear
Well were not professionally driving. If we were we wouldn't be skipping gears but since for most of us it's our dd I don't see anything wrong with going from 1to3, 2to4, 3to5 or what have you. I personally usually go threw every gear but of I go with in second and am going 60 and coast your not gonna go to 3rd makes more sense to skip to 4 or 5.
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Old 12-24-2012, 06:22 PM   #47
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They are a bit finicky in the first two gears. First is easy to get into from a start but not downshifting (obvious reasons) and second is hard to easily get into from 1st when you are hammering on it. Just a character of the car, the transmissions are not soft like an everyday car, they are race bred and meat to be rougher for the more skilled driver
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Old 12-25-2012, 01:23 AM   #48
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civic si is weak sauce for performance car. id consider it premium econobox
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Old 12-25-2012, 01:27 AM   #49
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civic si is weak sauce for performance car. id consider it premium econobox
It would be a fantastic car if it weren't so darn underpowered (especially torque)
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no way it is near economy my dear...
at the least...hmm..leme think......rear seats dont fold down....its not light as civic...its over 200hp...hmm....only common thing they share is four doors.
It's an econobox, fitted with the softest bushings known to man. And just because the rear seats don't fold down does not make it a performance car.

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civic si is weak sauce for performance car. id consider it premium econobox
The newer civics are actually quite nimble, and have plenty of power to wrap yourself around a tree. It's not a turbo awd car, but for a NA fwd 4 banger its not bad.
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