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Old 12-28-2012, 09:40 PM   #1
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I own a stock 06 wrx and my nitto invos are running bald and I am in need of new tires.. so I thought to myself I should get new rims as well!(further upgrades to come)

Now my question is..

Which tire/wheel combo will be the best BANG for the buck for a stock setup subie? I like the aggressive look, would like to stick to 17' or 18' wheels that are 8'wide with an offset of +45 to keep them flush.

Would this be a big enough offset to make them flush?

Still deciding on tire size..

any help is greatly appreciated
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:49 PM   #2
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or someone know of anyone selling nice wheels?
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:01 PM   #3
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Do you plan to autox or track your car? Do you want a higher performance tire or an all season?
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:23 PM   #4
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Do you plan to autox or track your car? Do you want a higher performance tire or an all season?

No, this will be my daily driver for now, I have had nitto invo tires on before which were high performance and nice... but I can sacrifice tire inorder to get new wheels.

Id like to cap my limit to $1200 for new tires/wheels
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:42 PM   #5
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I cant decide if I like the wheels with more spokes or the ones that have only like 3 thick ones.

im on tirerack.com checking out hundreds lmao
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:50 PM   #6
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$1200 for wheels AND tires is going to be pretty hard to do.

try browsing the classifieds for something used.
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:58 PM   #7
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A decent all season with decent wheels can run you$1200. Just look through Tire Rack and find some wheels you like and get the tires they recommend.
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:03 AM   #8
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$1200 for wheels AND tires is going to be pretty hard to do.

try browsing the classifieds for something used.
youre right..

I am looking at these right now..

1 - http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...All&sort=Price

2 - http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...All&sort=Price

3 - http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...All&sort=Price

4 - http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...All&sort=Price

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Old 12-29-2012, 12:10 AM   #9
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Get rpf1s.
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:12 AM   #10
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Get rpf1s.
those look nice.. but they only come in 17'
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:17 AM   #11
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cheap wheels, sure. but do you really want to buy the crappiest tires you can find?
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:22 AM   #12
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cheap wheels, sure. but do you really want to buy the crappiest tires you can find?
not the cheapest.

I would love to get the nitto invo's again.. but if there are tires out there that are good and are at a better price then Ill definitely give them a run.

I just got some nice Michelin power pures 2ct for my r6.. I know tires make a night/day difference. I live in Florida. Which ones do you recommend?

never heard of these.. but their traction pattern looks nuts

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....oModel=Impreza WRX Sedan&autoYear=2006&autoModClar=&vehicleSearch=tru e
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:32 AM   #13
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so MANY idiots...so many bad ideas


rpf1's....17x8 +45 and225/45 or 235/40 Federal 595RS-R's

the OP is in florida....he has no possible need for any sort of all season tire unless he goes north for the winter...then...mebbe
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:16 AM   #14
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so MANY idiots...so many bad ideas


rpf1's....17x8 +45 and225/45 or 235/40 Federal 595RS-R's

the OP is in florida....he has no possible need for any sort of all season tire unless he goes north for the winter...then...mebbe
exactly true, I used to go to Tennessee in the winter but the all wheel drive in the subie is amazing so even my invo's did super well in the snow.

I will be looking around for the perfect wheel/tire combo for the next 4 weeks. Is there any wheel or tire I should stay away from? The enkei wheels cant be THAT bad.. the weight is around 20ilbs

I am open to buy used wheels as long as they aren't damaged. Just haven't found any in the classified section.

So far 2 people recommend 17' wheels, why not 18'?

and thanks for all the input so far!
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Michelin Pilot sport! bought these few months ago, daily driver but very spirited driving and it's been raining past month, the Grip is freaking amazing! Did a dry road, ebrake- U turn drift last week and it was perfect control!
originally, I had decided on the latest Dunlop that was out but I read that the Pilot's were a lot lighter weight. so a $100 more I bought the Michelins
235/17. The only way to be happier is a wider tire.

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Old 12-29-2012, 03:34 PM   #16
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From a performance standpoint, the only reason you should ever need to go to a larger diameter is for brake clearance.

not only that, but a 18x8 is a pretty useless size, as it drastically limits tire size choice.

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Michelin Pilot sport! bought these few months ago, daily driver but very spirited driving and it's been raining past month, the Grip is freaking amazing! Did a dry road, ebrake- U turn drift last week and it was perfect control!
originally, I had decided on the latest Dunlop that was out but I read that the Pilot's were a lot lighter weight. so a $100 more I bought the Michelins
235/17. The only way to be happier is a wider tire.

Good luck
pilot sport ps2 (the summer tire) are $300/each......a set of those alone puts it OVER op's budget.
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Old 12-29-2012, 07:35 PM   #17
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Which tire/wheel combo will be the best BANG for the buck for a stock setup subie? I like the aggressive look, would like to stick to 17' or 18' wheels that are 8'wide with an offset of +45 to keep them flush.
I recommend 17" or 18" wheels. I don't think 17' or 18' wheels would fit on any car.

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Would this be a big enough offset to make them flush?
Your definition of "flush" is probably different than anyone else's definition of "flush." Wheel fitment is just math. Look at your current setup, figure out how much farther out you want the wheels to sit to get the "flush" look you want, then do the math to figure out what wheel size that would be. It ain't rocket science.

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No, this will be my daily driver for now, I have had nitto invo tires on before which were high performance and nice.
If you were happy with Invos (which are really not that great a performance tire) then you'll be happy with just about any moderately decent UHP or UHPAS tire.

You need to make up your mind on 17" or 18" if you want folks to give you more specific advice.

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those look nice.. but they only come in 17'
I'm not sure what gave you that idea, but the RPF1s are available in a 5x100 bolt pattern in 16", 17", 18" and 19".

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never heard of these.. but their traction pattern looks nuts

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....n&autoModClar=
Fixed your link for you. Yes, their "traction pattern" is super wicked awesome. They're also a dated design - their replacement, the HTR-ZIII, has been out for 5 years or more.

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rpf1's....17x8 +45 and225/45 or 235/40 Federal 595RS-R's
I know the RS-Rs are the greatest tire in the world, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, but I'm not sure an extreme performance tire is what he's looking for based on his budget and the fact that he was impressed by the Invos.

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the OP is in florida....he has no possible need for any sort of all season tire unless he goes north for the winter...then...mebbe
Or unless he wants the generally smoother ride quality that all-seasons provide (kinda like the smoother ride that a "luxury sport" tire like the Nitto Invo provides). Or unless he wants his tires to last longer than something like the gummy 595RS-Rs. Or unless he wants to spend less on tires, since all-seasons are typically cheaper than summer tires, and again, will last longer.

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I will be looking around for the perfect wheel/tire combo for the next 4 weeks. Is there any wheel or tire I should stay away from? The enkei wheels cant be THAT bad.. the weight is around 20ilbs
There's absolutely nothing wrong with any of those Enkei wheels you posted. There are more affordable wheel options out there, including used wheels, that might allow you more "bang for the buck".

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I am open to buy used wheels as long as they aren't damaged. Just haven't found any in the classified section.
You haven't found any wheels in the classifieds, or you haven't found undamaged wheels in the classifieds? Either way, are you sure you're looking in the right place? 17x8" is one of the most common, popular sizes, so there are always a bunch of sets for sale.
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Patrick thank you for the reply.

Ok lets just forget about the tires for now LOL

My goal is to correct the ugly stock offset with new wheels that have a greater offset so the wheel will be even with the car or even poke out just a little bit. I read about rolling and pulling fenders.. what the hell does that mean? lol

17" or 18" ,but from what I hear its better to run 17" so you can get bigger tires?

I need guidance to what size/width wheel is perfect for a nice clean look on stock setup.(for now)
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I recommend 17" or 18" wheels. I don't think 17' or 18' wheels would fit on any car.


Your definition of "flush" is probably different than anyone else's definition of "flush." Wheel fitment is just math. Look at your current setup, figure out how much farther out you want the wheels to sit to get the "flush" look you want, then do the math to figure out what wheel size that would be. It ain't rocket science.


If you were happy with Invos (which are really not that great a performance tire) then you'll be happy with just about any moderately decent UHP or UHPAS tire.


You need to make up your mind on 17" or 18" if you want folks to give you more specific advice.


I'm not sure what gave you that idea, but the RPF1s are available in a 5x100 bolt pattern in 16", 17", 18" and 19".


Fixed your link for you. Yes, their "traction pattern" is super wicked awesome. They're also a dated design - their replacement, the HTR-ZIII, has been out for 5 years or more.


I know the RS-Rs are the greatest tire in the world, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, but I'm not sure an extreme performance tire is what he's looking for based on his budget and the fact that he was impressed by the Invos.


Or unless he wants the generally smoother ride quality that all-seasons provide (kinda like the smoother ride that a "luxury sport" tire like the Nitto Invo provides). Or unless he wants his tires to last longer than something like the gummy 595RS-Rs. Or unless he wants to spend less on tires, since all-seasons are typically cheaper than summer tires, and again, will last longer.


There's absolutely nothing wrong with any of those Enkei wheels you posted. There are more affordable wheel options out there, including used wheels, that might allow you more "bang for the buck".


You haven't found any wheels in the classifieds, or you haven't found undamaged wheels in the classifieds? Either way, are you sure you're looking in the right place? 17x8" is one of the most common, popular sizes, so there are always a bunch of sets for sale.

pat yer a ****ing idiot...really


i promise


and what you dont know would fill volumes, this case included

you dont know anything about any of this, realy......go get in the caddy and go for a latte or something

and the OP is an idiot who will go and do something really stupid anyway, so none of this will really matter anyway
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what can I say.. im a noob when it comes to wheels. just trying to figure out this crap so I can order some wheels and tires that will fit my car without any problems and that looks the way I want it.

I don't need speed right now, I ride bikes that give me that thrill.. I just want a nice daily driver.. Ive put 76k on this WRX and Ive loved every moment of it. Just trying to get her some new shoes.. that's all.
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1. http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...sort=DiscountR

2. http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...sort=DiscountR

what do you guys think about those?

are spacro wheels any good? close to 22ilbs per wheel
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Michelin Pilot sport! bought these few months ago, daily driver but very spirited driving and it's been raining past month, the Grip is freaking amazing! Did a dry road, ebrake- U turn drift last week and it was perfect control!
originally, I had decided on the latest Dunlop that was out but I read that the Pilot's were a lot lighter weight. so a $100 more I bought the Michelins
235/17. The only way to be happier is a wider tire.

Good luck
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Tires are Super Sport 225/45R17 $195. each. $1,111. with warranty, Align, bal, install, tax.
widest tire to fit on Stock 7" wheels
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Tires are Super Sport 225/45R17 $195. each. $1,111. with warranty, Align, bal, install, tax.
widest tire to fit on Stock 7" wheels
1.) why would OP buy an all season (that is the price you are quoting).

2.) even still, that leaves OP 0 money for wheels.

congratulations on not following the thread.
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Both those wheels are nice IMO.

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greater offset so the wheel will be even with the car or even poke out just a little bit
No you don't. If you want the wheel more flush (stick out further), you want a lower offset. Not greater. The lower the offset, the more the wheel will stick out. The higher the offset, the more the wheel will be inside the fender.

And another note. All the wheels offered at Tirerack are going to have the correct fitment, so they're not going to give that super flush look you may be looking for. That said, I'd still recommend it. Once you start going with wheels with a low offset (more flush/stick out), you run into problems with rubbing.

Pulling/Rolling the fenders is a process to basically bend the fender out to make room for larger tires and/or lower offset wheels.

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1. http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...sort=DiscountR

2. http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...sort=DiscountR

what do you guys think about those?

are spacro wheels any good? close to 22ilbs per wheel
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1. http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...sort=DiscountR

2. http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...sort=DiscountR

what do you guys think about those?

are spacro wheels any good? close to 22ilbs per wheel
Both those wheels are nice IMO. I use the RTT524 for winter wheels.

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greater offset so the wheel will be even with the car or even poke out just a little bit
No you don't. If you want the wheel more flush (stick out further), you want a lower offset. Not greater. The lower the offset, the more the wheel will stick out. The higher the offset, the more the wheel will be inside the fender.

All the wheels offered at Tirerack are going to have the correct fitment, so they're not going to give that super flush look you may be looking for. That said, I'd still recommend it. Once you start going with wheels with a low offset (more flush/stick out), you run into problems with rubbing.

Pulling/Rolling the fenders is a process to basically bend the fender out to make room for larger tires and/or lower offset wheels.

And please stop calling tires "shoes".
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