The Grand Rapids Thread - Page 282

sackytar · 12-29-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Travisty

The reading I've been doing suggested using the throttle body coolant lines, especially if you have done the TB Coolant Lines Bypass, which I've already done. I'm considering getting some tubing and running my coolant over to my wastegate since TiAL is claiming that the unit will last 5-10 times longer.

My only hesitation is having those lines running that close (relatively) to the down pipe/dump tube/turbo.

It'd be nice the bypass the TB. I wonder where the cleanest route would be to get to the WG. Theyre so new I haven't seen a write up for it yet. You could also heat wrap the lines with thermotek near the WG.

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Travisty · 12-29-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sackytar

It'd be nice the bypass the TB. I wonder where the cleanest route would be to get to the WG. Theyre so new I haven't seen a write up for it yet. You could also heat wrap the lines with thermotek near the WG.

Yeah, I thought about that. Technically the down pipe should be wrapped and the turbo should have a blanket, but my car won't have that stuff for a while.

Shortest route would be to Tee in to the coolant feed/return lines for the turbo, but I don't like the thought of using those lines in case they start a leak. I like the throttle body lines idea better.

sackytar · 12-29-2012, 11:12 PM

Yeah I would rather have the tb lines blow before turbo lines. Seems like a lot of overkill for virtually no performance gain.

I can see the benefits if a car was dedicated track car. Still look for a write up curious to see how people are routing them.

Layvon · 12-30-2012, 09:49 AM

Could also use the return line from the reservoir that goes to the radiator. And daisy chain from one to the other or just tee before and after.

I have dual mvr on mine and I agree with posts above about it being overkill, and more for a track car. Where mine are on the car it would be hard to plumb because it is on the front right corner of motor below the power steering tank.

Travisty · 12-30-2012, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by acmarcus

If you put mud flaps on your car you're fuel rails will leak!! Ill stay away from mud flaps for that reason

Took my mud flaps off and my fuel rails stopped leaking. Reinstalled the mud flaps, and they started leaking again. WTF?

Shortpersonbk · 12-30-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Travisty

Took my mud flaps off and my fuel rails stopped leaking. Reinstalled the mud flaps, and they started leaking again. WTF?

Seems legit

SVT_2_WRX · 12-30-2012, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Travisty

Took my mud flaps off and my fuel rails stopped leaking. Reinstalled the mud flaps, and they started leaking again. WTF?

I really wanna put some mudflaps on too...sounds like a bad idea haha

Travisty · 12-31-2012, 07:39 AM

Rob, Aron, and Levon, what spring pressure are you running in your gates, and what's your target boost?

Edit: I had mine set up with 19lbs worth of spring. Took the car out last night and it only opened for about 200rpm near 5000rpm in second and third gear. Took it out again just now and the wastegate didn't even open in first and I hit fuel cut (which is set at about 25psi relative). So, I'll be stepping down spring weight, but I'm not sure how low I should go? I also had a couple questions about the wastegate installation. You guys have my number, so if one of you would give me a call that would be awesome.

I'm assuming I have an leak somewhere because the turbo takes til about 5k to hit full boost now, and seems to taper of pretty quickly. I know the headers will make me lose spool, but deleting the TGV assemblies and running the EWG should have nullified that loss... Hopefully it just needs to be tuned.

Mplvan · 12-31-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Travisty

Rob, Aron, and Levon, what spring pressure are you running in your gates, and what's your target boost?

Edit: I had mine set up with 19lbs worth of spring. Took the car out last night and it only opened for about 200rpm near 5000rpm in second and third gear. Took it out again just now and the wastegate didn't even open in first and I hit fuel cut (which is set at about 25psi relative). So, I'll be stepping down spring weight, but I'm not sure how low I should go? I also had a couple questions about the wastegate installation. You guys have my number, so if one of you would give me a call that would be awesome.

I'm assuming I have an leak somewhere because the turbo takes til about 5k to hit full boost now, and seems to taper of pretty quickly. I know the headers will make me lose spool, but deleting the TGV assemblies and running the EWG should have nullified that loss... Hopefully it just needs to be tuned.

I read somewhere that the spring rate sounds be 75% of peak boost?

Travisty · 12-31-2012, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mplvan

I read somewhere that the spring rate sounds be 75% of peak boost?

That is probably better than me trying to go just under my peak desired boost, but if my 19psi spring combo isn't actually opening the gate until 25~psi, I think I'll do around a .9 or 1 bar setup. Thanks Louis.

187mustang · 12-31-2012, 12:47 PM

Well the Wrx is gone. Officially sold. Now the Sti is on the road and gets the snow tires put on wed. Wed the stock Wrx wheels will be available.

Travisty · 12-31-2012, 01:00 PM

LOL! Just found my air line feeding the EWG was loose... No wonder it wasn't venting!

acmarcus · 12-31-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Travisty

LOL! Just found my air line feeding the EWG was loose... No wonder it wasn't venting!

Mine is at either 14 or 15 psi

Layvon · 12-31-2012, 02:07 PM

Mine is 16psi. Decent rule of thumb is half of target, but you found your issue anyway.

EtotheZ · 12-31-2012, 02:34 PM

Anybody interested in (4) Stock WRX 235/45/17 Dunlop SP Sport 01s? Have about 7500 Miles on em all of them still in really good shape. Threw Blizzaks on for the winter then going bigger come Spring. Would rather sell them local.

Travisty · 12-31-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Layvon

Mine is 16psi. Decent rule of thumb is half of target, but you found your issue anyway.

Threw in a combination that should net me 15psi.

......Aaaaand it works! Yay, EWG is fun! It's not near as loud as other people have said, but then again my car is kinda loud to begin with....

Layvon · 01-01-2013, 02:18 AM

The rule of thumb i gave was for a maximum spread, obviously im not running 32psi w/ electric control but I also don't want it cracking at low levels.

Just wanted to clarify.

And yeah I was expecting it to roar too, and I think between the fact I don't care about the noise because it is foot regulated and the fact I'm only spinning to 4500 right now. I was kinda disappointed

acmarcus · 01-01-2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Travisty

Threw in a combination that should net me 15psi.

......Aaaaand it works! Yay, EWG is fun! It's not near as loud as other people have said, but then again my car is kinda loud to begin with....

are you running a hybird boost controller? i have to agree with you, its not as loud as i thought it would be either. I guess it might be diff if you have a quite exhaust..

Travisty · 01-01-2013, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by acmarcus

are you running a hybird boost controller? i have to agree with you, its not as loud as i thought it would be either. I guess it might be diff if you have a quite exhaust..

Yeah, it's a hybrid setup using a GM EBCS and a Hallman Pro. Right now my WGDC is at zero, and the manual is backed all the way off so I'm just running spring pressure.

acmarcus · 01-01-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Travisty

Yeah, it's a hybrid setup using a GM EBCS and a Hallman Pro. Right now my WGDC is at zero, and the manual is backed all the way off so I'm just running spring pressure.

Burger King your choice of hangover food?

Travisty · 01-01-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by acmarcus

Burger King your choice of hangover food?

No, I was really looking forward to some MickeyD's rootbeer, but they didn't have their lunch menu up yet.

I rolled by your shop looking to see if I could give you a EWG blast, but apparently you guys are playing hooky today?

acmarcus · 01-01-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Travisty

No, I was really looking forward to some MickeyD's rootbeer, but they didn't have their lunch menu up yet.

I rolled by your shop looking to see if I could give you a EWG blast, but apparently you guys are playing hooky today?

I wish I was playing hooky today. Had to take Down tents downtown from last nights party's.

Travisty · 01-01-2013, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by acmarcus

I wish I was playing hooky today. Had to take Down tents downtown from last nights party's.

Time and a half I hope?

Travisty · 01-02-2013, 06:39 AM

Founders meet next Monday.

sackytar · 01-02-2013, 07:25 AM

DId you ever get those rails you made flow tested?

12-31-2012, 07:39 AM	#7033
Travisty Scooby Specialist Member#: 241216 Join Date: Mar 2010 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Grand Rapids, MI Vehicle: 02 AW WRX w/EWG 95 LX Wagon	Rob, Aron, and Levon, what spring pressure are you running in your gates, and what's your target boost? Edit: I had mine set up with 19lbs worth of spring. Took the car out last night and it only opened for about 200rpm near 5000rpm in second and third gear. Took it out again just now and the wastegate didn't even open in first and I hit fuel cut (which is set at about 25psi relative). So, I'll be stepping down spring weight, but I'm not sure how low I should go? I also had a couple questions about the wastegate installation. You guys have my number, so if one of you would give me a call that would be awesome. I'm assuming I have an leak somewhere because the turbo takes til about 5k to hit full boost now, and seems to taper of pretty quickly. I know the headers will make me lose spool, but deleting the TGV assemblies and running the EWG should have nullified that loss... Hopefully it just needs to be tuned. Last edited by Travisty; 12-31-2012 at 11:56 AM.

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12-29-2012, 11:12 PM	#7028
sackytar NASIOC Supporter Member#: 149262 Join Date: May 2007 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Grand Rapids MI Vehicle: 2003 03WRXw6sp/05FXT PSM	Yeah I would rather have the tb lines blow before turbo lines. Seems like a lot of overkill for virtually no performance gain. I can see the benefits if a car was dedicated track car. Still look for a write up curious to see how people are routing them.

12-30-2012, 09:49 AM	#7029
Layvon NASIOC Supporter Member#: 195711 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Cadillac MI Vehicle: STi 04/05/06/07 JBP / OBP for now	Could also use the return line from the reservoir that goes to the radiator. And daisy chain from one to the other or just tee before and after. I have dual mvr on mine and I agree with posts above about it being overkill, and more for a track car. Where mine are on the car it would be hard to plumb because it is on the front right corner of motor below the power steering tank.

12-31-2012, 12:47 PM	#7036
187mustang Scooby Newbie Member#: 305172 Join Date: Dec 2011 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Grand Rapids MI Vehicle: 2006 Wrx STI Wrb	Well the Wrx is gone. Officially sold. Now the Sti is on the road and gets the snow tires put on wed. Wed the stock Wrx wheels will be available.

12-31-2012, 01:00 PM	#7037
Travisty Scooby Specialist Member#: 241216 Join Date: Mar 2010 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Grand Rapids, MI Vehicle: 02 AW WRX w/EWG 95 LX Wagon	LOL! Just found my air line feeding the EWG was loose... No wonder it wasn't venting!

12-31-2012, 02:07 PM	#7039
Layvon NASIOC Supporter Member#: 195711 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Cadillac MI Vehicle: STi 04/05/06/07 JBP / OBP for now	Mine is 16psi. Decent rule of thumb is half of target, but you found your issue anyway.

12-31-2012, 02:34 PM	#7040
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01-01-2013, 02:18 AM	#7042
Layvon NASIOC Supporter Member#: 195711 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Cadillac MI Vehicle: STi 04/05/06/07 JBP / OBP for now	The rule of thumb i gave was for a maximum spread, obviously im not running 32psi w/ electric control but I also don't want it cracking at low levels. Just wanted to clarify. And yeah I was expecting it to roar too, and I think between the fact I don't care about the noise because it is foot regulated and the fact I'm only spinning to 4500 right now. I was kinda disappointed

01-02-2013, 06:39 AM	#7049
Travisty Scooby Specialist Member#: 241216 Join Date: Mar 2010 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Grand Rapids, MI Vehicle: 02 AW WRX w/EWG 95 LX Wagon	Founders meet next Monday.

01-02-2013, 07:25 AM	#7050
sackytar NASIOC Supporter Member#: 149262 Join Date: May 2007 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Grand Rapids MI Vehicle: 2003 03WRXw6sp/05FXT PSM	DId you ever get those rails you made flow tested?