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Old 12-19-2012, 05:04 PM   #1
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Default 1st Subaru: 04 Forester XT - Needs to be faster than stock! Advice welcome :)

I just got my first Subaru; a 2004 Forester XT. It's pretty cool, but is severely slower than other cars I've owned. I like the space and convenience of the car but want it to be quicker yet retain its reliability and decent mileage.
I got the car because I'd heard that it has the same motor as the STi's of the day.
I don't want to spend a fortune nor do I want to get into the engine itself.
That said, what are some mods that could help my Forester achieve some decent HP gains.
Again, I'm brand new to the scene and don't know a ton about these things yet. Advice and suggestions welcome.
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:48 PM   #2
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Welcome! You should be able to have a bunch of fun with your car without breaking the bank. I would start with a full turbo back exhaust and a tune and plan around that. My best advice is to work with a local tuner to help achieve your goals. Where are you located? I'm sure we can recommend someone who would be a good fit.

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Old 12-19-2012, 05:51 PM   #3
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Oh also, be sure to fill out your profile and also read the stickies in this forum, there is a bunch of useful info!

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Old 12-19-2012, 07:07 PM   #4
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main limiter is the dinky stock turbo. A VF39/43/48 plus a used STI intercooler, downpipe, catless uppipe (aftermarket or STI) and a good tune will put you around 280 whp, maybe 300 with a cold air intake.

A bigger turbo, like 20G or more, will obviously make more power, but then you need injectors as well. You start running the risk of blowing the motor, or possibly the tranny, if you go too far down the path.

I've been told 350 whp is about the limit for reliability, after which you take your chances.

And a few easy chassis mods make a big difference, a rear sway bar from an STI, and Swift Sportsprings make for much better handling.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:57 AM   #5
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The first thing I would do is the STI rear sway bar. Also, you might want to look into various brake options.

Some more info on the above options here:

http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulle...ti-cheap-8337/

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Old 12-20-2012, 08:58 AM   #6
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go to subaruforester.org and research. the stock tiny turbo is the biggest limiting factor to performance like northman said. look into group n tranny mount to stiffen things up.you can twist the stock mount with your hand
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:26 PM   #7
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Welcome! You should be able to have a bunch of fun with your car without breaking the bank. I would start with a full turbo back exhaust and a tune and plan around that. My best advice is to work with a local tuner to help achieve your goals. Where are you located? I'm sure we can recommend someone who would be a good fit.

Mike
Thanks Mike. I live in Northern KY, very near Cincinnati Ohio. Do you happen to know anyone relaible in this area?
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:53 AM   #8
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Thanks Mike. I live in Northern KY, very near Cincinnati Ohio. Do you happen to know anyone relaible in this area?
Turn in Concepts is near to Cincinnati. I've purchased stuff from them before and each time I've had a great experience.
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:45 AM   #9
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Yeah definitely hit up TIC. If they can't get you what you're looking for i'm sure they know who can. Awesome group of fellas!

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Old 12-22-2012, 07:48 PM   #10
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i got alot of my bushings and kartboy products from tic. i recommend them
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Old 12-25-2012, 10:48 AM   #11
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welcome to the Fozzie family. an check on the forester forum for ideas an stuff
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Old 12-25-2012, 10:22 PM   #12
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Turbo back and stage 2 Cobb has been great for me!
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:00 AM   #13
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Before you do any modding, make sure your motor is in good condition. Get a compression test and make sure you aren't consuming any oil. Then get rid of all those catalytic converters, the stock turbo, injectors, fuel pump, and top mount intercooler. Depending on your budget, you will have lots of choices after that. Make sure you do your research before buying parts.
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:35 AM   #14
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Before you do anything stated above, please remove the screens from the AVCS banjo bolts if they haven't been already.

I've seen far too many EJ255s go down or get close to going down because of those damned screens.

A quick car is only quick if it is running...
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Old 12-26-2012, 11:43 PM   #15
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pick up a set of STi/Legacy GT/ headers/wrx(not 06-07) port them and throw them on your fozzy. Good cheap mod. STi Up pipe, STi intercooler, port and polish throttle body and intercooler Y.
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Old 12-27-2012, 09:45 AM   #16
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Before you do anything stated above, please remove the screens from the AVCS banjo bolts if they haven't been already.

I've seen far too many EJ255s go down or get close to going down because of those damned screens.

A quick car is only quick if it is running...
Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't follow what you mean here. What are the AVCS banjo bolts, and their screens? And I'm guessing this is a common issue on these cars. I would suppose my screens are intact as my cars fairly stock.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:46 AM   #17
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't follow what you mean here. What are the AVCS banjo bolts, and their screens? And I'm guessing this is a common issue on these cars. I would suppose my screens are intact as my cars fairly stock.
http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulle...removed-77903/

The screens that came stock need to be removed.
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:19 AM   #18
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There's also another screen in the banjo bolt that feeds oil to the turbo.

http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...Info_SubaruOil
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:18 PM   #19
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There's also another screen in the banjo bolt that feeds oil to the turbo.

http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...Info_SubaruOil
Is it the general concensus then to replace these screens with new ones or just remove them?
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:34 PM   #20
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Just remove them. Even the TSBs released by Subaru say to do this.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:31 AM   #21
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MAKE SURE YOU CHANGE THE OIL SO YOU DONT BLOW THIS ONE UP LIKE THE EVO I SOLD YOU .....

DONT WANT YOU TRYING TO COM AT ME AGAIN SAYING I SCAMMED YOU AFTER YOU BEAT THE **** OUT OF IT.....


xt already has turbo back exhaust and tune from cobb, intercooler, cobb intake.
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:55 PM   #22
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MAKE SURE YOU CHANGE THE OIL SO YOU DONT BLOW THIS ONE UP LIKE THE EVO I SOLD YOU .....

DONT WANT YOU TRYING TO COM AT ME AGAIN SAYING I SCAMMED YOU AFTER YOU BEAT THE **** OUT OF IT.....


xt already has turbo back exhaust and tune from cobb, intercooler, cobb intake.
Since you didn't put this motor together yourself, I bet I'll be fine this time.
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Old 01-03-2013, 03:24 PM   #23
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xt already has turbo back exhaust and tune from cobb, intercooler, cobb intake.
Supposedly my new Subaru has these parts. But since you decided to keep all receipts to my car after our trade, Eric, I can't really be 100% sure what's on this car and what isn't, can I?
Send me the receipts and arrange shipping for your tires, and I will take down what I've posted about you going back on our deal on the arious forums as our arrangement will finally be complete.
I'll still (briefly) work with you to resolve our difference. If that works for you, get the recoepts in the mail. Otherwise, your advise on what to do with my new car is not welcome.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:49 AM   #24
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[IMG] IMG_1150 by starscream4icecream, on Flickr[/IMG]

Here's a picture of it with the custom front Bumper. The guy I got the car from said it was custom made from several other bumpers out there, but I don't know if that's true or not. I still don't know a whole lot about Subaru's but am learning. Doesn't look bad though. Anybody know what it is or where it comes from?

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Old 02-09-2013, 06:57 PM   #25
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That's a good looking front bumper!
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