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Old 12-07-2012, 07:24 PM   #1
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I went from stock 245/45/R18 on the STI to 225/50/R17

As soon as I left the shop, I noticed my car pulled to the right. Didn't do that with the stock wheels on. I left it alone for a day. Then today, I went to NTB to get an alignment done, since it was new wheels (smaller) and 4 brand new tires.

They said the alignment was in spec, there was nothing to adjust. I told them to check the tire pressure, they said it was good.


What could be causing this?

Again, just 2 days again my car was driving fine, I took my new wheels to get tires put on them, they balanced them, and installed the new wheels, and I noticed the car pulling to the right.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:55 PM   #2
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Rotate your tires and see what happens.
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:57 AM   #3
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Rotate your tires and see what happens.
what he said, sounds like radial pull betcha a dollar that when you rotate the pull disappears - its kind of like voodoo, there isn't anything concrete that you can see wrong with the tire - it just has a disposition because of the way the steel belts set in the mold during construction.
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:53 AM   #4
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I went from stock 245/45/R18 on the STI to 225/50/R17

As soon as I left the shop, I noticed my car pulled to the right. Didn't do that with the stock wheels on. I left it alone for a day. Then today, I went to NTB to get an alignment done, since it was new wheels (smaller) and 4 brand new tires.

They said the alignment was in spec, there was nothing to adjust. I told them to check the tire pressure, they said it was good.


What could be causing this?

Again, just 2 days again my car was driving fine, I took my new wheels to get tires put on them, they balanced them, and installed the new wheels, and I noticed the car pulling to the right.
this is not necessary

and they may have really ****ed the alignment up...most places do
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Old 12-08-2012, 11:06 AM   #5
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this is not necessary

and they may have really ****ed the alignment up...most places do
Well to be fair they didn't adjust anything, they said the alignment was in spec.

I took it back to the tire shop, had them check the balance, and rotate the tires. They said the balance was good and they rotated the tires. The car still pulls to the right. Not as much, but it does. Is this something I'm just going to have to deal with?
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Old 12-08-2012, 11:16 AM   #6
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checked your pressures?
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Old 12-08-2012, 11:19 AM   #7
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Find a shop that has a Hunter GSP9700 balancer with StraightTrak capability. It can minimize tire pull.

http://www.gsp9700.com/how/straighttrak.htm
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:58 PM   #8
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Well to be fair they didn't adjust anything, they said the alignment was in spec.

I took it back to the tire shop, had them check the balance, and rotate the tires. They said the balance was good and they rotated the tires. The car still pulls to the right. Not as much, but it does. Is this something I'm just going to have to deal with?

this is pure meaningless....and an 'in spec' subaru alignment can be so far out of reality that it is dangerous

if you got the sheet...take a pic and post it
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I went from stock 245/45/R18 on the STI to 225/50/R17.............
what specific tires did you mount?
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Old 12-08-2012, 07:48 PM   #10
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Make sure the tires are all actually the correct size(matching). No odd balls.
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:09 PM   #11
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what specific tires did you mount?
Continental ExtremeContact DWS
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:46 PM   #12
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Continental ExtremeContact DWS


that explains it....the dws are known for this...has been posted here more than a couple times

either live with it or get different tires
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:59 PM   #13
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^^^
Thanks for the heads up. I'm just going to live with it so long as it's common with the tires.

Sorry if I was beating a dead horse
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:05 AM   #14
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dunno why you are using as tires in texas.....unless ya gotta drive north in the winter...not worth it
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:55 AM   #15
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dunno why you are using as tires in texas.....unless ya gotta drive north in the winter...not worth it
driving to colorado Friday
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Thanks for the heads up. I'm just going to live with it so long as it's common with the tires.

Sorry if I was beating a dead horse
You don't have to live with it. As I stated earlier, find a shop that has a Hunter GSP9700 balancer with StraightTrak capability. They can determine which tire has the most lateral pull, and you can have the tire replaced under warranty. They can also tell you at what positions to place each tire, to mimimize pull.
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Old 12-10-2012, 05:53 PM   #17
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You don't have to live with it. As I stated earlier, find a shop that has a Hunter GSP9700 balancer with StraightTrak capability. They can determine which tire has the most lateral pull, and you can have the tire replaced under warranty. They can also tell you at what positions to place each tire, to mimimize pull.

this has come up sevearl times and part of the issue is the tread pattern and the fact that the tires are asymetrical and that they have melted butter soft sidewalls.....the combination of these factors makes them 'do this'

it MAY be possible to lessen this effect, but a different tire would be a better choice
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:20 PM   #18
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I went from stock 245/45/R18 on the STI to 225/50/R17

As soon as I left the shop, I noticed my car pulled to the right. Didn't do that with the stock wheels on. I left it alone for a day. Then today, I went to NTB to get an alignment done, since it was new wheels (smaller) and 4 brand new tires.

They said the alignment was in spec, there was nothing to adjust. I told them to check the tire pressure, they said it was good.


What could be causing this?

Again, just 2 days again my car was driving fine, I took my new wheels to get tires put on them, they balanced them, and installed the new wheels, and I noticed the car pulling to the right.
Hey op, I was going to do the exact same thing as far as going down a rim size. Do you think 245/50 r17 would fit the rims well? I was going to go with the exact same
size tire you have but found a deal on the tires mentioned
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:50 PM   #19
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Hey op, I was going to do the exact same thing as far as going down a rim size. Do you think 245/50 r17 would fit the rims well? I was going to go with the exact same
size tire you have but found a deal on the tires mentioned
245/50 is way to tall......
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245/50 is way to tall......
Ill stick with 225/50
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:41 PM   #21
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I got the same problem and I got 2 different shops tellint me that its 2 diff things, one said the left axe is binding because its not oem, the other sais my car is 2 low and making my axels bend, idk help
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I got the same problem and I got 2 different shops tellint me that its 2 diff things, one said the left axe is binding because its not oem, the other sais my car is 2 low and making my axels bend, idk help

its TOO LOW
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Like posted above, my shop also has the a road force/straight track setting to hell with mating the hard spot to the rim better and to minimize pull with straight track.
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:24 PM   #25
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I have continental dws on both my cars. When I installed a new set of 235/45/17 on 7.5" wide 04 sti bbs I ended with the same exact problem you describe. I have a low mile set of 235/45/17 dws mounted on 17x8 o.z ultraleggera running on my saabaru that run perfectly on that car. I swaped the wheels/tires from the saabaru to the bugeye and the problem was completely gone. The interesting thing is that the saabaru ran perfect with the wheels/tires that were problematic on the bugeye. I got rid of the 04 sti wheels and got a set of enkei rpf1 17x8 45+ and had the tires that had been problematic on the bugeye swapped to my new rpf1. Put the o.z back on the saabaru and returned the previously problematic tires on the bugeye now mounted on the new wheels back to the bugeye. Interestingly, they run perfectly on the bugeye. Nothing else was changed, the alignment had been done prior to the first time the dws were installed and the car was runing perfectly on its factory 16" wheels and kuhmo asx 225/45/16. Only thing I can figure is that the 235 tire was too wide for the 7.5" wide 04 sti wheel. Considering the same exact tires had been problematic and the only thing that was changed was the wheel width and the problem was fixed. Sorry about the convoluted story but that was my experience similar to what you describe. I still have continental dws on both my rex's without any issues, I like the tires for my dd and driving style.
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