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Old 01-13-2013, 08:28 PM   #426
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Does anybody here have an SCCA membership? Myself and a friend are getting memberships, and there's a $15 discount if someone refers us. We just need a name and SCCA member number.
Post up in the GR thread man, I think a couple of those guys are SCCA members.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:43 PM   #427
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Does anybody here have an SCCA membership? Myself and a friend are getting memberships, and there's a $15 discount if someone refers us. We just need a name and SCCA member number.
Send me a PM and i will send my info.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:51 PM   #428
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Old 01-15-2013, 03:45 PM   #429
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Fun story time!

So, I went to leave Detroit on Sunday after Son of SnoDrift, and in the process of checking my tire pressure, I noticed something was amiss! My front driver's side tire had a pretty significant blister on it. With 4200 miles on them. Not cool at all. That, and General does not have a road hazard warranty on them (despite the fact that this is obviously a manufacturing defect - there are absolutely no scratches, bruises, or even a tiny scrape on the sidewall) and there are no shops here who will warranty all four tires for me, since I need them all replaced at once.

I've got a road hazard warranty back at the shop I bought them from in Battle Creek... but I'm in Detroit. So I talked to the shop back in BC, and they said if I bought ONE tire here to replace the bad one, take the bad one with me back to them, they'd refund me for the one tire/mounting/balancing. Whether or not they'll replace all four tires is yet to be seen. I'm really not going to be thrilled if they decide that running one tire with a different circumference than the other three is a good idea on an AWD car...

I really like supporting local small mom & pop shops, but sometimes there's a benefit to getting stuff from big chains, especially when it comes to warranty work. Hopefully driving carefully home on slightly mismatched tires won't kill anything, right?


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Old 01-15-2013, 03:58 PM   #430
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Fun story time!

So, I went to leave Detroit on Sunday after Son of SnoDrift, and in the process of checking my tire pressure, I noticed something was amiss! My front driver's side tire had a pretty significant blister on it. With 4200 miles on them. Not cool at all. That, and General does not have a road hazard warranty on them (despite the fact that this is obviously a manufacturing defect - there are absolutely no scratches, bruises, or even a tiny scrape on the sidewall) and there are no shops here who will warranty all four tires for me, since I need them all replaced at once.

I've got a road hazard warranty back at the shop I bought them from in Battle Creek... but I'm in Detroit. So I talked to the shop back in BC, and they said if I bought ONE tire here to replace the bad one, take the bad one with me back to them, they'd refund me for the one tire/mounting/balancing. Whether or not they'll replace all four tires is yet to be seen. I'm really not going to be thrilled if they decide that running one tire with a different circumference than the other three is a good idea on an AWD car...

I really like supporting local small mom & pop shops, but sometimes there's a benefit to getting stuff from big chains, especially when it comes to warranty work. Hopefully driving carefully home on slightly mismatched tires won't kill anything, right?
Those tires have 4200 miles on them? Jeebus, they look damn near bald.

You're fine for driving home on your bad tire (our cars come with donuts and they don't always match the tires size that we have installed), and if they will only replace the bad one, demand that they pay for a shop that can shave your new tire to the correct diameter.
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Old 01-15-2013, 04:06 PM   #431
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Those tires have 4200 miles on them? Jeebus, they look damn near bald.
That's probably just the picture - they've still got a LOT of meat on them. That's just some kind of tread on the rounded portion of the sidewall leading to the tread. I don't have a car powerful enough to roast tires that quickly.

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You're fine for driving home on your bad tire (our cars come with donuts and they don't always match the tires size that we have installed), and if they will only replace the bad one, demand that they pay for a shop that can shave your new tire to the correct diameter.
I'm under the impression that tire shaving is a bit of a lost art usually performed at speed shops. I'm not entirely sure where I could get that done. But just to reiterate, I should be okay driving home on a brand new (and thus, slightly bigger in circumference) tire of the same size, at highway speeds, for around 120mi? I've got no idea how delicate the AWD system is, so I'm being a bit paranoid about it.

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Old 01-15-2013, 04:50 PM   #432
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I think the subaru spec is the rolling circumference needs to be within 1/4". Not sure how that works seeing that my car came with a donut that is about 1" shorter than stock.

Do yer math and see if you're good. I think it's about 1/8" of tread wear will keep you in spec, which is about 20% of the life of most 10/32 tread tires.
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Old 01-15-2013, 04:52 PM   #433
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I think the subaru spec is the rolling circumference needs to be within 1/4".
I'm probably crazy, but I've been poking through my service manual PDF collection, and can't find anything to that effect, despite that being the general internet-consensus.
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:38 PM   #434
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I had between 8 and 9/32s on my tires (about 5k miles) this past summer when I hit a chunk of debris in a construction zone and compromised the sidewall of one of my tires. Only replaced the one tire and haven't had any discernible issues 2500 miles later. I've heard 2/32" floating around a lot as a reference point.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:06 PM   #435
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I have general arctics and my front left tire did the same exact thing. Luckily the tread was not down far enough to need replacing of all the tires.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:41 PM   #436
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http://myautoevents.com/pls/mae/frmE...event_id=13536

Rally X in Marshall on March 9th if anyone is interested. About 30 minutes out of kzoo.

I'm planning on being there. Not sure if i'll be keeping my car with me for the rest of the year at school, but it's the weekend i have to be back after spring break and so i'll have my father bringing my back anyways... and i think he wants to race too
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:46 PM   #437
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I just moved here from seattle wa. Lookin for some subi drivers to meet up with. Not sure how to post a pic but im rollin an 05 wrx wrc replica. Let me know if you guys are meetin up.
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:08 PM   #438
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Saw this car last night, it looks awesome! Glad you guys got your heat working also, that must have sucked...
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:11 PM   #439
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Oh man it was amazing haha my hands and feet were NUMB when we got there haha thanks for that
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:10 PM   #440
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So, this is how Firestone in Royal Oak thought they'd balance my tire. Needless to say, it didn't work out very well. They expected me to drive out the door like that, all paid for. I'm in the process of complaining to corporate to say the very least. The amount of laziness and gross incompetence on display is absolutely stunning. They told me to come back later when I'd cleaned it myself, and they'd re-balance it. Thanks for the nice gouges in my clean WRX alloys, and crappy service, guys. Took me all of two minutes with a nozzle-less garden hose to clean it off myself. I'm sure using a bristle brush would have helped.





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Old 01-17-2013, 04:45 PM   #441
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What about that crack at the top of the first picture?
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:08 PM   #442
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So, this is how Firestone in Royal Oak thought they'd balance my tire. Needless to say, it didn't work out very well. They expected me to drive out the door like that, all paid for. I'm in the process of complaining to corporate to say the very least. The amount of laziness and gross incompetence on display is absolutely stunning. They told me to come back later when I'd cleaned it myself, and they'd re-balance it. Thanks for the nice gouges in my clean WRX alloys, and crappy service, guys. Took me all of two minutes with a nozzle-less garden hose to clean it off myself. I'm sure using a bristle brush would have helped.
While they undoubtedly did a piss-poor job, what they should have done is just handed you the wheel back without doing any work and made you clean it. Do you normally hand over your car with the underside looking like that and ask for an oil change?

I'm not trying to step on your toes at all, but why did you give it to them in that condition in the first place?

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What about that crack at the top of the first picture?
That looks like a hair/fiber, not a crack (it continues out in to the middle of the wheel, after the lip stops). I could be wrong though.
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:29 PM   #443
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While they undoubtedly did a piss-poor job, what they should have done is just handed you the wheel back without doing any work and made you clean it. Do you normally hand over your car with the underside looking like that and ask for an oil change?

I'm not trying to step on your toes at all, but why did you give it to them in that condition in the first place?
Telling me beforehand is exactly what I expected them to do. The wheel actually has a pretty light coating of silt, but all over the wheel - I actually took a lot of it off by just bouncing the wheel. It wouldn't have been heinously difficult to clean with a nylon brush.
I actually got them as clean as I could get them with a pay n spray wash with the wheels on the car before I handed them over. (It was a LOT worse beforehand.)
The biggest issue was the fact that they mounted/balanced it like that, without saying a word to me, and gave me a half finished job. If they'd have told me to clean it, there wouldn't be a problem here.

I assume the standard procedure is to brush the dang thing off at least. I knew it was dirty, but I figured they'd take the extra minute to brush it off cleaner than I could with it on the car... I don't think that's too much to ask, especially considering that I paid for the entire job, and cleaning the wheel for balancing is part of the job I paid for.


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That looks like a hair/fiber, not a crack (it continues out in to the middle of the wheel, after the lip stops). I could be wrong though.
And yeah, that's some kind of small piece of rubber leftover from the tire installation. Not a crack. Here's a picture of it after a quick hose off.

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Old 01-18-2013, 10:16 AM   #444
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Hey all. Not from Kzoo, but frequent there often to visit my girlfriend at WMU. Maybe you've seen me around before. Haven't gone there recently with the car, only via Amtrak, but I was around a lot throughout the summer/fall. Had some wheel bearing issues and other things going on, but got that all taken care of now and might be in town soon.



At the MNM Subaru world record gathering in TC, where I met MadMax:



Give me a wave if you see me!
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:21 AM   #445
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Driving home from Kzoo about exactly a year ago, weather seems so much milder this year:



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Old 01-18-2013, 10:41 AM   #446
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Hey Cliff! Glad to see you on here, let us know when you come back to kzoo and we can have a meet then.

I'll be at Bittersweet tomorrow (Saturday), since last weekend they weren't open, if anyone wants to join.

Also, Tmibiker and I were talking about a possible Fourth Coast meet tonight if anyone is available. He finally got everything figured out with the tire/wheel situation.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:01 AM   #447
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Hey all. Not from Kzoo, but frequent there often to visit my girlfriend at WMU. Maybe you've seen me around before. Haven't gone there recently with the car, only via Amtrak, but I was around a lot throughout the summer/fall. Had some wheel bearing issues and other things going on, but got that all taken care of now and might be in town soon.

At the MNM Subaru world record gathering in TC, where I met MadMax:

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It's so pretty! ;3 Any modifications? I love your wheels by the way!
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:30 AM   #448
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Hey Cliff! Glad to see you on here, let us know when you come back to kzoo and we can have a meet then.
For sure!

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It's so pretty! ;3 Any modifications? I love your wheels by the way!
Thanks!
Just headers/exhaust, Tein coils, swaybars/endlinks and aesthetic mods.
Sadly, I don't have the WedsSports anymore Traded them to a friend and he sold them. What I have now are some Euroline Type-N's:



Kinda unconventional, I know. Decided to try out the stanced thing. But I do miss driving the car the way it was meant to be so some proper wheels with some meaty tires may be on the way. It's currently rolling on WRX stockers for the winter. Also, I have a brand new replacement fender for that ugly dent in the front, just waiting for paint. Will probably do that after winter.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:54 AM   #449
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oh god, please lift it back up, that looks horrible.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:08 PM   #450
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oh god, please lift it back up, that looks horrible.
That will be my decision, but thank you for your opinion
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