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Old 01-16-2013, 02:43 PM   #2101
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:48 PM   #2102
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No I don't.
That's a big no no. Always shoot in raw. Jpeg compresses the hell out of the files and you don't have the flexibility in post as you do with a raw file.

As far as glass goes, I can't stress enough about getting out of the kit lens series ie 18-55, 55-250, etc. If you don't feel like shelling out for pro L glass, sigma and tokina are still viable options that will produce good results.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:53 PM   #2103
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I haven't used my kit lenses in months. I mostly shoot with my 85mm f/1.8 USM and my 50mm f/1.8. The L zoom is coming soon. I tried shooting a picture of my kid in RAW and I couldn't not get it to look right right all. I mostly take pictures of my kids and its not practical too shoot in RAW with the amount of pics I take to try to capture a good one. I will start doing it for my automotive stuff to get the hang of it.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:56 PM   #2104
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I never take my camera off raw. I have a 32 gb card so it holds around 1200 photos. I have never needed more space
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:57 PM   #2105
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Raw isn't absolutely required for all shooting.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:11 PM   #2106
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I guess you can say I stack filters all the time. I have a UV filter on the 24-70 f2.8 which I never take off, though UV filters dont really do much other than protection for the front element of the lens. But whenever I shoot cars I always stack a CP filter on top.

For rig shots I'm always stacking CP and an ND filter. CP to cut down on the reflections and at the same time by stacking the 2 it allows me to have a longer shutter. Especially helpful when doing rig shots during a bright day.

And for me I always shoot RAW, it just gives you so much more leeway in post.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:15 PM   #2107
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What can you change in RAW that you can't in JPEG?
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:19 PM   #2108
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What can you change in RAW that you can't in JPEG?
everything, it allows you to fix stuff that you might have not had the right settings when the shot was taken.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:24 PM   #2109
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What can you change in RAW that you can't in JPEG?
well, i guess you first need to understand what raw does vs what jpeg doesn't.

In its simplest form... a jpeg is a compressed file. meaning, your camera saves the file, throwing pixels away...essentially. So it gives you less to work with in post production. Jpeg isn't meant to be edited, thats what raw is for. RAW doesn't throw away the pixels. RAW actually isn't an image file at all, RAW is a text file. Thats why you can't open a raw image in a lot of applications. But raw, (.NEF for nikon or .CR2 for canon) is the raw image data, it doesn't throw away anything, it doesn't add any contrast or saturation adjustments (like jpeg does). When you put an un-edited RAW next to an un-edited jpeg, the jpeg will look better, raw photos out of the camera look flat, and ugly. But once you spend a little time editing a raw photo, it can look ten times better than that of a jpeg. I am a RAW fanboy, i am anti jpeg. Photography doesn't stop when you release your shutter button, photography is also how you create your images in post. Any film photographer that develops their own film will tell you the same thing. You have more control over what you're doing. Its like manual transmission vs automatic.... manual you control the car.. sorta make sense?
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:24 PM   #2110
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Shooting in RAW isn't absolutely necessary - it all depends on you and what you want to do with your photos. If you like the jpg results that your camera produces, then that is great. If you want more tweaking/adjusting range then RAW might be for you. The RAW files have more data in them for the computer to work with. If I pull a jpg into LR I can still adjust colors, contrast, lights, darks, exposure, clarity, etc, but the degree to which I can adjust those elements will be greater in a RAW file.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:26 PM   #2111
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RAW actually isn't an image file at all, RAW is a text file. Thats why you can't open a raw image in a lot of applications.
interesting.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:48 PM   #2112
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Here's an example of stacking filters.
In this photo I stacked a UV, 1stop ND (graduated), a blue, yellow and red 4x4 filters.



I was just experimenting to see how the filters would affect the sunset and clouds.

(missing the bugeye).
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:50 PM   #2113
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RAW is the way to go.
It does take up more space, and you cant burst as much.

But the editing capabilities and resolution quality surpass that of just jpeg files.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:58 PM   #2114
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:05 PM   #2115
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Ok, here is a B&A from me. Usually my B&As are not very exciting b/c I don't generally do any major editing. But, this one needed definite rescuing and this was one night I was so glad I was shooting in RAW. 2/3 of the way into the night (well, evening, technically - I think we started around 5, took a sandwich break, new location and wrapped up about 8) things started to go a little wrong - mostly due to the batteries in my light dying and consequently my light not putting out so much light as I was thinking it was (it was noticeable to my camera's sensor, but not to my eye). I should also have been an f-stop lower, but that wasn't my biggest problem. The whole thing just wound up quite under-exposed. I know if I had been shooting in jpg that image would have gone into the recycle bin.



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Or, another analogy - imagine you have a brand new package of Oreos. You pull open the outer wrapping and slide out that little plastic tray. If your package of oreos is a jpg, you have about 5 cookies removed for every 1 cookie left in the package (note: not an exact jpg:RAW ratio ). If your package of Oreos is a RAW package, then you get all the cookies!
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:09 PM   #2116
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I love cookies! Going to do my next set in RAW and see what it's all about!
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:17 PM   #2117
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hahaha

yeah, they look kind of flat at first sometimes, but just work with them. I shot all in jpg until about a year or so ago (maybe 2 now, actually), did my first family shoot in jpg even, then did one with the camera set to write each file in both formats, compared the results, switched to RAW thereafter and never looked back. And I was still working 100% in iphoto back then so I had nowhere near the versatility that I have now with LR.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:22 PM   #2118
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I shot a picture of one of my kids in RAW and I could not get the white balance to look right, it drove me insane. That kind of discouraged me and I haven't tried it since. I have been getting bored lately so this will be a good time to learn something new. I also might be going to B and H photo in the city this weekend. That could be dangerous....
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:31 PM   #2119
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Ill say this again..theres nothing incorrect about photography. If shooting jpeg works for you, go for it. If kit lenses work for you, by all means.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:34 PM   #2120
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The only photos I've actually had published were shot on my old camera, in jpg, with the kit lens. :\
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:34 PM   #2121
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I agree but if there is an option out there that can potentially improve the quality of my photos then I would like to try it. I want to be as good as can.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:38 PM   #2122
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B&H always a dangerous place to go. Not sure what camera you use, but AW has always been good for me. Or your can do a custom white balance. Just the first google page I ran into, gives you a good tutorial on a DIY with a simple pringles top.

http://www.tristupe.com/2010/03/diy-...otography.html

You can also use a coffee filter. For me I actually sandwiched a coffee filter between 2 pringles top. I found that it works best for me.

There is this too
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...tal_White.html

But they all work the same.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:43 PM   #2123
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Remember the WB setting in camera does not matter (besides for the in camera LCD) when shooting RAW.

When Im shooting something critical, I will shoot a control photo with a WhiBal target before shooting my photos, and shooting a new control when moving locations or changing lighting. I then use the white balance eyedropper in post to correct.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:59 PM   #2124
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Just played around with editing this, tried something difference for once and I don't really know how I like it.



I'm in a mood to be ridiculously critiqued, so come forth with it. XD
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:01 PM   #2125
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INKMAN - If you're used to using AWB with JPEG images, then you can still choose the AWB setting with your RAW images. But you also have complete freedom to adjust the WB in post. Where as with JPEG you just pick it and hope it's right.

RAW is much more powerful than JPEG. Sure, you can make great images in JPEG. You can also make great images with an iPhone, lol. If you want the most flexibility in editing, then RAW is the way to go. It reduces degradation due to compression and allows for way more adjustment.

I used to shoot 100% JPEG. I did it for years. Now that I switched I don't shoot anything in JPEG any more besides the occasional sporting event if I'm shooting for print sales and it will be thousands of images and they have to be processed and up in a day. For everything else (cars, products, people, weddings, etc) I use RAW.

Sometimes I make very little RAW adjustments, but sometimes I make a LOT. And shooting RAW in the first place gives you that option. With some shots a JPEG image would be unsalvageable, while a RAW image could be adjusted to look perfect (ie. picked the wrong white balance setting).
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