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Old 01-27-2013, 10:06 PM   #126
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Basically everything that xluben detailed about gear ratios is spot on. If I look at my 3rd gear pulls, the boost plot is about 400-500rpm slower. Like he said, the 08+ 5MT 3rd gear is similar to 6MT 4th gear plots, but the 6MT will show a bit better spool.

So if juks had done his log in 4th, his boost plot would shift to the left probably 400rpm, and his torque curve would shift to the left a bit more too, but not by much.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:14 PM   #127
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No worries, I think he might benefit more if it were in a new thread as well.

Thanks!
Juan has his own thread and we've been posting there but some of this diverted to yours. No disrespect at all!
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:15 PM   #128
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I agree that Juks' would spool a lot sooner RPM-wise in 4th. Another thing to note is that Nuke's plots (Juks and TickTack) normally have a lot of smoothing on them (at least I assume Nuke made the plots). On VD this will lower the peaks and can shift them to the right (depending on the plot)
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:15 PM   #129
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One thing is for sure all you guys cars are pigs
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:16 PM   #130
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:17 PM   #131
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One thing is for sure all you guys cars are pigs
They may be pigs but these pigs run very fast
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:40 PM   #132
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smaller skinnier pigs live longer than the fat ones
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:55 PM   #133
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smaller skinnier pigs live longer than the fat ones
The bigger piglets push the skinny and weaker runt piglets out and they get smaller and weaker!
The strong pigs run fast and eat the good stuff so they get faster and stronger!!
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:17 PM   #134
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I eat both, I don't judge. Porks pork

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Old 01-27-2013, 11:19 PM   #135
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Got bored this afternoon and decided to merge some dyno plots together. This is more out of curiosity, since a few people PMd me asking how my GTX compared to other turbos. I'm really not a specialist here, but grabbed a few plots that were pretty similar in builds (built engines, all bolt-ons upgraded), and I tried to make sure they were all running E85 as well, similar boost levels, all from Virtual Dyno (dynojet), etc.

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whoznext - http://forums.nasioc.com/forums//sho...php?p=39001662
pet3r - this thread
juks - http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2411484
ticktack - http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2432563
juanmedina - http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2429748
xluben - http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2078765
your chart rules. thanks
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:40 AM   #136
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That updated chart looks great! Much easier to read.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:10 AM   #137
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Why was Juks dyno on 3rd gear? he has a 05 STi trans...
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:12 AM   #138
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Peter are you worried about your rods? you make tons of torque
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:46 PM   #139
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Peter are you worried about your rods? you make tons of torque
Can't say that I am, I'm not daily driving on the 28psi map.
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Why was Juks dyno on 3rd gear? he has a 05 STi trans...
Long gears
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:15 PM   #141
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Long gears
Nice!

Peter how you like the TiC composite TGV's? I Still need to install the ones that Clint (TiC) sponsored me... no time
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:11 AM   #142
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Peter how you like the TiC composite TGV's? I Still need to install the ones that Clint (TiC) sponsored me... no time
Well it's hard to say. It's a big composite piece of plastic that adds space between the intake manifold and block...hard to say if I can really like a piece of plastic

It's really light though, and obviously heat transfer is reduced. How much I'm not sure. My mechanic didn't quite know how many ft/lbs to tighten them down as there were no instructions. Also, you NEED to ground the intake manifold after install, as it will no longer be grounded to the block. They ran into this issue and couldn't figure out why it wouldn't turn over, then realized why.

Other than that I don't know how one compares the differences between TGVs
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Mine came with tq specs and I got them from first GB
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:03 PM   #144
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Mine came with tq specs and I got them from first GB
What is the torque spec?
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:05 PM   #145
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I got mine from Oakos and it was just a box with the TGV, no paper or specs.
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some very impressive #'s there, showing all the haters what a quality tmic can do

When raising the base fp up to 50 or even like you did 55, do you have a gauge in the car to watch what it does at redline? or is 10-12psi not enough to worry about it going to high? I know all jr's cars pull off great #'s with not the largest injectors because of raising base fp

my setup is a rotated std 30r .82, with the 2.5i mani, kelford 199-c cams, I should be good with the same 1400 injectors and the walbro 460 hard wired like you pulled off I assume, e85 as well, Im very anxious to see what the larger mani and cams do to my powerband, wondering how far I should rev before power dies, 75-8k too much for a 30r? This set-up was balanced so feel a little better about raising the redline a touch

we ran into %100 on my old sidefeed dw1100's and dw301 fuel pump at 19-20psi, But I dont think I had the fuel pressure set-up correct, when checking/adjusting it, between the line pinched and not pinched, stock fp is 39 and 43.5, correct? do I pinch the line from the fpr or not when I'm adjusting "base" up to 50-55?

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Thats a question best left for Ron
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:26 PM   #148
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we ran into %100 on my old sidefeed dw1100's and dw301 fuel pump at 19-20psi, But I dont think I had the fuel pressure set-up correct, when checking/adjusting it, between the line pinched and not pinched, stock fp is 39 and 43.5, correct? do I pinch the line from the fpr or not when I'm adjusting "base" up to 50-55?

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You don't pinch anything when you are setting base fuel pressure. Remove the vacuum line from the regulator then set your fuel pressure. That is now you base fuel pressure. The end.
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^ we were doing it like that...he just used the wrong words.

turning the fuel pressure up on intank pumps that dont have the rewire, just doesnt work. without the rewire, the increased FP just makes the pump flow less sooner.
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What is the torque spec?
I dont remember off hand. Im sure if you ask TIC they can tell ya.
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