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Old 01-05-2013, 06:00 PM   #1
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Hey Guys,

So I'm planning on putting an aftermarket stereo into my new 2013 WRX. More specifically, I ordered a 2013 and I'm doing some planning about my modifications before it arrives sometime in April. Here's the scoop:

I have done a bunch of research here on Nasioc, as well as external websites like subaruaudio.net and ae64.com but haven't been able to plan out every detail exactly. I'm looking to install the Pioneer AVIC-X940BT head unit, but would like to keep everything as stock as possible. I'm trying to find a solution to be able to use the stock USB/AUX jack in the center console. Looks like this:





The tricky part is that the head unit I want to use (Pioner AVICX940BT) has a few limitations. Here's what the back of the unit looks like:




There is a break out cable that has USB/AUX on it, which looks like this:





My issue is that I want to be able to use the iPhone / iPod feature of the head unit. It allows you to display your album artwork and interface with some specific apps off of the iPhone (like pandora and other music related apps). In order to use this feature though, you have to use this Pioneer specific cable that connects both USB and AUX at the same time:






I'm not sure why it's necessary to have the phone plugged in via USB and AUX at the same time, it seems like USB should be able to handle a data connection like this. But that means that the 1 AUX connection on the breakout cable is taken up by this feature, and I will not be able to ALSO connect the AUX jack in the center console, right?

On my current head unit (AVIC-U310BT) there is a USB port and AUX port on the back, and allows me to cycle between iPod and AUX modes so that I can have a 2nd device (or passenger's device) plugged into the AUX in the center console. I would like to mirror this feature on my 2013 and connect into my stock center console AUX. Has anyone used this head unit that can tell me more info about it? I'm purely going off of specs and reviews for my information. I hope that I'm missing something but it seems that I can either use USB/AUX separately, OR combine them to use the iPhone specific features.

Any suggestions?
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Old 01-05-2013, 06:24 PM   #2
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I realize that I could just plug the Pioneer iPod adapter cable into the stock USB/AUX jacks. But then I would have to splice into those stock wires since the plug is proprietary to the stock stereo system.

I saw that SVXdc was making an adapter / harness for the stock AUX jack that goes to 3.5mm or RCA, do you think there's a harness like this that has USB AND 3.5mm so that I can jack right into these with an aftermarket head unit?
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:45 PM   #3
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You dont need that specific pioneer cable. You can just use the regular ipod cable plus a male-male audio jack cable. Should be cheaper?
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:54 PM   #4
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I have this deck, use the Pioneer cable. The regular Ipod cable with the male audio cable is a pain in rear, you get syncing issues with the a audio.
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:24 PM   #5
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I have this deck, use the Pioneer cable. The regular Ipod cable with the male audio cable is a pain in rear, you get syncing issues with the a audio.
I've heard this as well.

How is yours hooked up? Are you using the stock USB / aux ports in the center console? Or is your pioneer cable routed into the dash somewhere directly into the head unit?
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:43 PM   #6
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Have you looked much into the Kenwood DNX5190? I've heard it is a lot more user friendly than the X940BT and is a lot less quirky. I'm trying to make a decision myself.
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:19 PM   #7
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Have you looked much into the Kenwood DNX5190? I've heard it is a lot more user friendly than the X940BT and is a lot less quirky. I'm trying to make a decision myself.
I haven't. I'll look into it when I get home on a real computer. I've been pretty focused on pioneer since that's what I have now, and it's worked out really well.

Plus I'm trying to keep the car clean and as "stock" looking as possible. Since Subaru uses pioneer in some stock applications (especially in Canada) I thought it would be a natural fit.
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Old 01-12-2013, 05:30 PM   #8
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I've decided to give up on using the stock USB/AUX jacks that come with the car. I'm going to create my own USB/AUX jack plate that will connect to the head unit instead. The stock one is going to be too tricky to work with.

Anyone know where I can get a blank version of the plastic plate that would cover the USB/AUX jacks? I know some base model Impreza's don't come with AUX from the factory, and have a blank plate instead. Where can I buy this, and what's the part number?
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:15 AM   #9
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Old 01-15-2013, 04:52 PM   #10
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Is the pioneer Ipod cable worth it for those of us that have brand new Pioneer double dins?
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:21 PM   #11
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Is the pioneer Ipod cable worth it for those of us that have brand new Pioneer double dins?
From what I've read, you have to have the pioneer specific cable (Pioneer CD-IU51V or Aftermarket CD-IU50V) if you want all the functions to work. If you just use a USB cable you can only play music. But if you use the Pioneer cable you can display album artwork on the deck, display certain apps like pandora, play videos, etc. It makes it a much better experience.

Also, I found the Part number for the plate I was looking for. Its Part # 86257FG110 and looks like this:




I plan to use this and create my own "USB/AUX" panel with aftermarket parts. That way I don't have to worry about jacking into the stock connectors. I will update as I progress with this.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:51 AM   #12
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Hi there royalnewjersey,

I have been looking into the same HU as you and a similar setup. I have been looking into many FAQ and here is what I will be doing in the end.

See post #2 for more information:
http://www.iwsti.com/forums/gr-inter...adunit-qs.html

I've talked to the guy and he ended up gluing up his parts to the original sockets, both USB and Aux.

Please update with photos as soon as you can. I'm anxious to see how it turned out !

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Old 01-29-2013, 11:59 AM   #13
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What you can do is cut off the connectors on the cable that comes with the Pioneer HU and solder the appropriate wires into the connectors in your center console.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:03 PM   #14
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Hey,

I have an 08 WRX that I just installed the AVIC-X940BT. Few things I might be able to help with.

My car had a stock Navigation in it. Be careful with this if yours does, you'll need different parts. If you don't you'll be fine.

I can definitely recommend to hook up the steering controls. I did everything all at once, steering, amp, bt etc.

As the for audio cable, you definitely need the aftermarket cable. Doesn't have to be Pioneer, I personally picked the Kenwood one up because it was $40 cheaper and it works exactly the same. I would stay away from the stock cable with headphone wire, it distorts the sound and there are major syncing issues.

I ran the cable through and underneath in front of the shift knob, I was going to run the cable through and connect it but my year car didn't have USB, also keep in mind how long that Pioneer/Kenwood cable is on top of how long the one from Pioneer is. You're going to have a lot of extra wire sitting in your center console which is why I tucked a lot of it under the Navi and pretty much just ran the iPod connect underneath, and not I have the iPhone 5 so I have the adapter on the end.

Let me know if you want to see pictures as well. Were you think about doing the Video/Maps bypass?

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Old 01-30-2013, 01:11 PM   #15
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Thank you very much, that's very helpful. I'm planning on installing my own USB/AUX plate that will fit into the stock location, then I will plug the Pioneer/Kenwood 30-pin iPhone cable into that. That way I will have the option to unplug it, and use just aux if someone has a media device other than an iPod/iPhone. Here's a preview:



Other than that, my setup will be the same.



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My car had a stock Navigation in it. Be careful with this if yours does, you'll need different parts. If you don't you'll be fine.
Mine does not. Thanks for the heads up.

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I can definitely recommend to hook up the steering controls. I did everything all at once, steering, amp, bt etc.
I'm doing the same. I purchased the Metra ASWC unit from SVXdc, and I will be wiring up the head unit, GPS, iPhone cables, steering wheel control, aftermarket speakers, and aftermarket sub all at the same time.


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I would stay away from the stock cable with headphone wire, it distorts the sound and there are major syncing issues.
I assume by this statement you mean stay away from using
1) stock USB cable that came with my iPhone and
2) Standard 3.5mm aux cable.

because pairing these two instead of using the Pioneer cable has been known to cause syncing/playback issues, correct?

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Let me know if you want to see pictures as well. Were you think about doing the Video/Maps bypass?
I would love to see pictures! And yes, I'm doing the parking brake bypass. I got the extra "bypass" wire from SVXdc along with my 20-pin wiring harness. I'm going to wire it up to the breakout connector that comes with the head unit. I've also read that with the 940BT there's no need to ground the parking brake wire on top of this
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Old 08-27-2013, 04:53 PM   #16
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Hi I came across this post and was hoping one of you would have some insight on a problem I've been having with the x940bt not working right with my ipod. I had a regular ipod cord hooked to the USB end of the cord coming for the deck but was receiving no sound. After looking into this I know you have to use pioneers cable (or a aftermarket version of the same cable) so I bought one. I plugged the 30 pin and headphone jack into my ipod and it shows up fine but STILL no sound! AV 1 is set to iPod and AV2 is off. Can anyone shed some light on why I am still getting no sound even though I am using the correct cable?? Please help!
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