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Old 02-02-2013, 03:33 PM   #1
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Hello I am new to posting and in need of some help with suggestins or tips with my build
I recently just pullled my motor and went over it with a new gaskets and a gates racing timing belt kit w/water pump and all the goodies.I then did my own tgv deletes and p&p my intake .I have a header and up pipe and down pipe and hks catback but no cats.then I did a blouch 18g xt turbo and d/w 750 injectors and I already had a aem cai.I have a tial 44 with a new up pipe but I didn't put it in cuz it against my downpipe. The dumptube is to long so I have to get it shortened so I used my stock waistgate actuator and any time I get on it it throws the p0244 dtc code.I know I need a tune and I forgot to mention I have a cobb that im using to try and manage a little.but until I break the clutch in I cant get tuned I talked to ivey tuning as I live in n.j. and I will get there soon but as for the present could someone please help me trying to make my car run a little better for now.and I aplogize for seeming stupid as I hate typing
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:59 PM   #2
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Don't drive the car AT ALL until you get some type of a break in tune done.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:14 PM   #3
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any idea or suggestions on where or how to get a break in tune
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:15 PM   #4
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and for some dumb reason i have 2 nasioc accounts so sonicyellowwayne and myself are the same.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:39 PM   #5
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Get an e tune, various tuners offer these. I know of Clark turner and torqued performance that do e tunes. Also search phatbotti. That'll be the best easiest cheapest way for you to go. Do it quick cuz your gonna blow up your motor with no tune and those mods.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:01 PM   #6
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okay im going to try and re word this so hopefully somebody can help me
i recenttly pulled my motor and did a gates racing timing belt and all the pulleys and water pump then i gutted my tgvs put on a grimmspeed lwcp and threw on a stage 1 clutch and lightweight flywheel as the clutch was the main reason for the motor pull.i then popped a set of d/w 750 and a blouch 18 g xt turbo onto what ar my supporting mods
cobb ..running there stage 2 map
e bay turbo inlet
hks catback
invidia up pipe
aem cai
idk the make of the header
b&m short throw
tein coilovers
stoptech drilled and slotted
bbs wheels and brand new tires
aluminium radiator
ported and polished intake
and a colorfull brand new set of blue vacumm lines all the way around
so my problem here is i need a pre tune DESPERATELY to break my clutch in and get to ivey tuning to have a pro tune done please somebody help me yell at me just tell me something
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:17 PM   #7
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and am i going to need an ebcs and an aem wideband ? are they neccasarry or mandatory
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:27 PM   #8
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I'm telling you! Stop driving your car if you are! You don't NEED a wideband! It's nice to have for peace of mind.

You cannot just run a stage 2 map using a completely different set up then the Cobb map specifies.
Get an e-tune. Do more reading on everything you have and understand how everything works.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:47 PM   #9
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its parked im not going to drive it but i am considering putting my stock turbo back on for safety and just wait until the clutch is broke in and what else can you suggest before i go get pro tuned and how bad will it load up with those big ass injectors if i did put the stock turbo on
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:08 PM   #10
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Putting stock dp on is not gonna help. Everything you have on there you need to tune for or drivability is lost.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:21 PM   #11
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When I put the stock turbo back on the only diffrence from before will be the injectors everthing else ran great with the stage two map from cobb and a few tweaks with atr for my tgvs.so why would drivability be shot. I fully understand components and what one does to another .basically I started this thread so I could see if somone with similar mods has some expierience or maybe has an atr map to help my sitiuaton. But I still value your input so please elaborate so I can make the best informed decision possible. And thank you
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:23 PM   #12
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send a PM to Phatron... and dont post again until you talk to him.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:36 PM   #13
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i tried to send phatron a message but nasioc said i have to post 5 more legitimate posts before i can pm anybody
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:22 PM   #14
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Mmm I just never consider running injectors untuned. You just never wanna put these motors through anything they don't have to be through.

Treat your baby nicely, always with a good tune rather then puttin by. Treat her with love and she will do the same.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:26 PM   #15
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Not exactly sure what the issue here is?

You need a tune. Cobb doesn't make ots 750cc maps.

For an etune I require that u have a wideband. If you go into a shop you don't need one cause their dyno will have one. But I still think its a must have mod for all cars.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:46 PM   #16
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And will I need a wideband or will the tuner work that out also.and I understand that cobb doesnt have ofs maps for my mods I was only looking for an e tune so I can run my new stuff safely.I aplogize if you feel I waisted your time I am simply trying to figure this all out and I appreciate your input.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:53 PM   #17
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I already answered the wideband part.

If you get an etune a wideband is required.

If you go to a dyno in person the shop will have a wideband on the dyno.
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:35 AM   #18
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Wideband wasn't required for my e tune. I log constantly. I know it's a need for most. But not in my budget for the time to be. Tough times and my etune runs fantastic.
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:36 AM   #19
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Sorry I meant a ebcs.ive been looking and reading so much its all becoming blurry
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:56 AM   #20
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I always recommend a Perrin or gs. Not a necessity but most people do it.
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I always recommend a Perrin or gs. Not a necessity but most people do it.
Agreed.
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