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[Bishonen74]

Here's my question (plain & simple):

Is there any evidence, or any reported cases, that the installation of an aftermarket down pipe and/or intake has directly caused damage to any Subaru engine?

Don't get me wrong here. I am not asking if "driver" error caused damage. Just merely the addition of down pipe, intake, BOV, etc causing damage to the engine? Or addition of sway bars, strut bars, lower chassis brace, etc causing damage to the frame or suspension?

Granted, all these mods being installed CORRECTLY. Has it ever been proven that their addition has deliberately caused damage to the vehicle?

Just to be clear - I am referring to all of this UNDER NORMAL DAY TO DAY driving conditions. Not necessarily Auto X and the like.

Thanks.

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[RexyGirl]

Originally Posted by Bishonen74

Here's my question (plain & simple):

Is there any evidence, or any reported cases, that the installation of an aftermarket down pipe and/or intake has directly caused damage to any Subaru engine?

Don't get me wrong here. I am not asking if "driver" error caused damage. Just merely the addition of down pipe, intake, BOV, etc causing damage to the engine? Or addition of sway bars, strut bars, lower chassis brace, etc causing damage to the frame or suspension?

Granted, all these mods being installed CORRECTLY. Has it ever been proven that their addition has deliberately caused damage to the vehicle?

Just to be clear - I am referring to all of this UNDER NORMAL DAY TO DAY driving conditions. Not necessarily Auto X and the like.

Thanks.

I am sure there are multiple cases out there, but these things are done on a case by case basis. You can add whatever you want to the car, but if it causes a failure, then it's not covered.

I have seen many things over the 11 years I have been with Subaru. There is no definitive answer to your question. If it's possible those things can cause damage, then the possibility is there that a warranty claim could be denied. If you and your friend have the same mods on a car, and something on his car breaks and it's linked to the mod, there is no guarantee the same thing will happen to you.

[sc00by4life]

Originally Posted by Bishonen74

Here's my question (plain & simple):

Is there any evidence, or any reported cases, that the installation of an aftermarket down pipe and/or intake has directly caused damage to any Subaru engine?

Don't get me wrong here. I am not asking if "driver" error caused damage. Just merely the addition of down pipe, intake, BOV, etc causing damage to the engine? Or addition of sway bars, strut bars, lower chassis brace, etc causing damage to the frame or suspension?

Granted, all these mods being installed CORRECTLY. Has it ever been proven that their addition has deliberately caused damage to the vehicle?

Just to be clear - I am referring to all of this UNDER NORMAL DAY TO DAY driving conditions. Not necessarily Auto X and the like.

Thanks.

there is a lot of grey area.

correct/incorrect installation really doesn't matter when you are altering the car from factory specifications. that's all subaru (well...any manufacturer really) needs to deny warranty service.

The whole "they have to prove the modification caused the failure" is relating to non-OEM parts that are manufactured to OEM specifications. Not parts that will alter how the cars intended specifications. That part is ignored by people crying on here ("BUT WAHHHH THEY HAVE TO PROVE MY NEW xxxx PART DID IT").

[roadtrip1098]

Originally Posted by Bishonen74

Here's my question (plain & simple):

Is there any evidence, or any reported cases, that the installation of an aftermarket down pipe and/or intake has directly caused damage to any Subaru engine?

Don't get me wrong here. I am not asking if "driver" error caused damage. Just merely the addition of down pipe, intake, BOV, etc causing damage to the engine? Or addition of sway bars, strut bars, lower chassis brace, etc causing damage to the frame or suspension?

Granted, all these mods being installed CORRECTLY. Has it ever been proven that their addition has deliberately caused damage to the vehicle?

Just to be clear - I am referring to all of this UNDER NORMAL DAY TO DAY driving conditions. Not necessarily Auto X and the like.

Thanks.

A higher flowing intake and exhaust will allow the turbo to spool faster and create more boost. It goes as far as creating boost spikes and can even go outside what your fuel map is set to do creating an ultra lean condition. This will usually result in a knock/pre-det. That could kill a motor very quickly. Also it is more power than what your car was designed to handle (not really, but that's what they'll say) So there goes anything with the tranny and other drive line components.

Occasionally you'll find a Subie dealer that's heart grew 3 sizes last Christmas and they'll honor the claim, but good luck with that.

[bddgsxr]

Not sure what to do but I hope someone (Rexygirl) might have some insightful input. About a year ago (14k miles) my 08 STi with 24k on the clock had piston 4 fail and after many weeks of digging through piles of papers looking for 1 oil/filter receipt not to mention a bunch of heated phone calls, SoA and the dealer informed me that my piston (only one single piston) would be replaced under warranty.

Now, after following every recommendation from my owners manual the car started acting like it did when the piston went last year. I just did a compression test and found #4 at 60 psi where the rest are between 120 and 150. I'm an old man that uses this thing to shuttle my kid back and forth from school and sports. It's my only car and I am getting frustrated with the reliability.

Any input to remedy this situation is truly welcome. BTW I have a full setup of forged pistons and rods as well as a fresh block waiting to be assembled but I wanted to wait until my powertrain warranty has expired (Oct 2013) and right now I don't have the extra cash to throw at finishing the build.

I feel like I have to baby the car just to make it another 10k miles after subaru "fixes" the problem. Should I feel like that or is there something actually wrong with my car? Is there someone out there that can tell me why this happens or are people STILL guessing what the actual problem might be?

Thanks

[drmadlab66]

Thank you!

[mttle]

would getting an after market exhaust/intake warranty? Also wanted to ask if installing a aftermarket amp and sub voids it as well...

[blackfang]

No and No unless they directly cause a problem.