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Old 12-21-2012, 07:23 PM   #151
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how much longer do you expect before these kits will on on the market
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:36 PM   #152
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There is way more flow capacity, with that filter/elbow setup, than that turbo will ever need. I don't see it as a choke point. We'll see if things change with the GTX3576-R, but I'd be really surpised if it did.[/quote]

Is room an issue with running a 4 inch inlet on the turbo??
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:15 AM   #153
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Subscribed. Very interested to see what's to come!
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Old 12-31-2012, 07:12 AM   #154
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how much longer do you expect before these kits will on on the market
It feels like it's taking f-o-r-e-v-e-r!!! Having to have a second built motor is what's causing the delay. Being the engineer that I am, I can't just leave well enough along. I'm way more involved with the building process than I should be, adding my own changes, tweaks and so forth to the build. So it's just taking a long time.

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There is way more flow capacity, with that filter/elbow setup, than that turbo will ever need. I don't see it as a choke point. We'll see if things change with the GTX3576-R, but I'd be really surpised if it did.
Is room an issue with running a 4 inch inlet on the turbo??[/quote]

From this pic you can see, there is room of you don't mind making a minor cut for some clearance. This is something we did on the very first go around and I never liked it. I was very skeptical to CNC mill the compressor housing and use the inlet reducer, but having access to engineering resources as Garrett is handy for things like this. The data showed no reduction in flow and a bit of an improvement in surge characterisitics



Performance wise, we saw no difference. I somewhat expected the turbo to sound different is some way, but there was zero audible difference in air sucking, turbine/compressor whine, etc.

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Subscribed. Very interested to see what's to come!
Us too! We're working on something else, very preliminary too. Unfortunately (I think so far), it will only be for GRs, but if we can get the goemetry to work there will no longer be any comparisons (performance wise) to other kits. For the GDs, it's starting to look like, what you see is what you get, which isn't exactly a bad thing. More torture testing to come.

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Old 12-31-2012, 11:11 AM   #155
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It feels like it's taking f-o-r-e-v-e-r!!! Having to have a second built motor is what's causing the delay. Being the engineer that I am, I can't just leave well enough along. I'm way more involved with the building process than I should be, adding my own changes, tweaks and so forth to the build. So it's just taking a long time.:
Well if and when you want to start testing the kit on other cars let me know. I've been very interested in the kit from day 1 and it would save me a lot of time instead of having to of done my own low mount kit.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:36 PM   #156
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hi im intrested in this setup. where could i buy it??
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Old 01-01-2013, 08:47 PM   #157
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hi im intrested in this setup. where could i buy it??
Read the thread , Its still a prototype setup.
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Old 01-03-2013, 08:13 AM   #158
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Well if and when you want to start testing the kit on other cars let me know. I've been very interested in the kit from day 1 and it would save me a lot of time instead of having to of done my own low mount kit.
Cool. I really appreciate your willingness to make a leap into the semi-unknown Our first 'beta' batch will be small and there are some criteria we'll be looking for as well in testers. You're not too far away, so you've already got that in your favor

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Read the thread , Its still a prototype setup.

Something else I've been thinking about. Much easier on the GRs since there's more space, but maybe... maybe... TS
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:53 PM   #159
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Cool. I really appreciate your willingness to make a leap into the semi-unknown Our first 'beta' batch will be small and there are some criteria we'll be looking for as well in testers. You're not too far away, so you've already got that in your favor
Keep me posted by the summer i should i have my new set of heads all done as well as some other supported goodies.
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:10 PM   #160
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subscribed! want to run a similair setup on my 2.35L with built heads!
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:32 AM   #161
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Keep me posted by the summer i should i have my new set of heads all done as well as some other supported goodies.
We've purposely retained OEM spec heads because that is likely what the majority of the market will be. If they are built, results should only get better

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Very cool!
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:11 AM   #162
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Something else I've been thinking about. Much easier on the GRs since there's more space, but maybe... maybe... TS

Subscribed, would be awesome to have an EFR TS on the GR's!
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Old 01-14-2013, 07:28 AM   #163
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We're not designing around the EFR turbos. They are just too freaking big/long for that location as this kit should for the most part not require and fabrication to the car.

That being said, I'm sure anyone with a BFH/saw and some fab skills could make it work.
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:55 PM   #164
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Still in line to get the GC kit rolling. Chris i have not forgotten about this and i hope you didn't forget about our emails! Sent you a pm
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:42 PM   #165
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:16 PM   #166
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Awesome looking kit, makes me consider waiting longer to see where it goes. I'd certainly be up for helping test cool stuff out instead of buying the same setup off the shelf that everyone else goes with.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:34 AM   #167
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Any updates?
The car has been sitting for a couple weeks with the bumper off. Nothing major, I just want to get the A/C condenser back in before summer. Waiting on the built engine's parts to come in and off it will go for another transplant.

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Awesome looking kit, makes me consider waiting longer to see where it goes. I'd certainly be up for helping test cool stuff out instead of buying the same setup off the shelf that everyone else goes with.
Thanks!

Here's where we're hoping it goes... Testing with current GTX3071-R with 0.63 Tial turbine housing (baseline), then back to the 0.82 turbine housing for comparison. From there we'll install the GTX3576-R (likely the 0.82 Tial turbine housing) and see what she does. Depending on how everything goes, we may also test a couple different fuels (E85 and race fuel).
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Awesome, ETA on the new motor?
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:13 PM   #169
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The car has been sitting for a couple weeks with the bumper off. Nothing major, I just want to get the A/C condenser back in before summer. Waiting on the built engine's parts to come in and off it will go for another transplant.

Thanks!

Here's where we're hoping it goes... Testing with current GTX3071-R with 0.63 Tial turbine housing (baseline), then back to the 0.82 turbine housing for comparison. From there we'll install the GTX3576-R (likely the 0.82 Tial turbine housing) and see what she does. Depending on how everything goes, we may also test a couple different fuels (E85 and race fuel).
That 3576 should be nice turbo for the low mount. I know you want to test it with stock cams but it would really come alive with some cams and head work!!

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Old 02-05-2013, 04:28 PM   #170
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Very clever. Looks good!
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:03 AM   #171
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:43 AM   #172
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Amazing kit. Glad you went with Garrett for it. Had a GTX3076 on my old s2000 and that thing was a blast.

Have you had any electrical issues (blown fuses) with your kit yet with running the scavenge pump and aftermarket radiator fan? Will you offer any wiring relay kits with your setup if they are required?
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That 3576 should be nice turbo for the low mount. I know you want to test it with stock cams but it would really come alive with some cams and head work!!
The GTX3071-R pushed over 400whp with the 0.82 housing so the GTX3576-R should be pretty good step in power.

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Thank you

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I will get a reply headed your way once I get a decent chunk of time to put some thought into.

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Amazing kit. Glad you went with Garrett for it. Had a GTX3076 on my old s2000 and that thing was a blast.

Have you had any electrical issues (blown fuses) with your kit yet with running the scavenge pump and aftermarket radiator fan? Will you offer any wiring relay kits with your setup if they are required?
I really like the Garrett turbochargers too. They have also been extremely usefull with providing engineering support as well.

On the electrical side, the only issue I've come across was due to my own stupidity (firing it up without the scavenge pump fuse in once). Besides that, it's been rock solid reliable. Wiring is pretty simple, and this says a lot as my skills are weak electrically. I plan to provide a BOM to exactly what we have into the kit, but electrically, there's nothing that can't be had at your local AutoZone.

The radiator fan we're using is still under the current draw rating for the OEM circuit that it's tied to. So far so good.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:11 PM   #174
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Any room at all for a turbo larger than a GTX3582R?
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:54 PM   #175
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Any room at all for a turbo larger than a GTX3582R?
Not with the GC/GD, unless you're not afraid to modify the chassis some.
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