Real dyno numbers

Kennyboy · 02-08-2013, 09:18 AM

I've searched the forum. Does anyone have real dyno numbers comparing stock 2013 WRX vs STI? I bet they're closer than what subaru published.

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Badler · 02-08-2013, 10:31 AM

They are about the same. Tons of threads about it on here.

Mach V Dan · 02-08-2013, 11:51 AM

Here's a 2008 STI (mechanically the same as 2013), all stock.

I haven't found a stock late-model WRX graph yet, although I must have one somewhere.

--Dan
Mach V
FastWRX.com

xluben · 02-08-2013, 12:23 PM

I pulled this a couple years ago:

Quote:

Originally Posted by xluben

Here are the results from COBB's baseline dyno runs (as posted on their site):

STI, 2008, 233/253, Barnes, Andrew
STI, 2008, 239/258, COBB Tuning
STI, 2008, 247/245, Hoffman, Aran
STI, 2008, 245/242, Motorsports, Performance
STI, 2008, 236/238, Pickett, Rob
STI, 2009, 243/245, Diens, Tim
STI, 2010, 228/239, COBB Tuning
STI, 2010, 226/240, Pentimonti, Tony
STI, 2011, 236/227, Mitchell, Mario
STI, 2011, 250/254, Pease, Dave
STI, 2011, 251/255, COBB Tuning
STI, 2008+, 239/245, AVERAGE

WRX, 2009, 231/239, Brackenbrough, Mike
WRX, 2009, 241/239, Braun, Jeremy
WRX, 2009, 233/248, Keenan, MJ
WRX, 2010, 244/258, COBB Tuning
WRX, 2010, 244/258, Branen, Charles
WRX, 2010, 246/259, Gill, Evan
WRX, 2011, 223/255, COBB Tuning
WRX, 2011, 251/255, Miller, Josh
WRX, 2011, 218/251, Vonali, Ritter
WRX, 2009+, 237/251, AVERAGE

Basically they make the same power.

VF52 and VF48 are pretty much the different size, just a different flange on the compressor housing.

Kennyboy · 02-08-2013, 12:46 PM

Interesting stuff, man. I'm glad I decided on a WRX premium rather than a STI base. I couldn't wrap my head around the $7-8k difference.

mmfullen · 02-08-2013, 01:01 PM

Unless you keep them stock, it's worth it in the end to go STI. I have a 2008 wrx that now has a built trans, rotated setup (tuned by Dan), and makes 380whp because of obvious block limitations.

The transmission however...is where the money is worth it.
Wrx transmission breaks at...yes.
STI transmission takes a beating.
My built 5-speed cost me $6,000ish...and that doesn't cover diffs.

In the end I have some regrets over the 5 speed wrx. That's my justification.

Badler · 02-08-2013, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kennyboy

Interesting stuff, man. I'm glad I decided on a WRX premium rather than a STI base. I couldn't wrap my head around the $7-8k difference.

I mean they have the same amount of WHP, how could they even be different? People who buy STi's must be teh stupid.

jnorth85 · 02-08-2013, 01:27 PM

because the 5 speed sucks if you decide to modify past the stock turbo, and upgrading to a 6 speed costs $texas$

Meeno · 02-08-2013, 01:32 PM

If it were all about the fastest car you could buy for the money none of us would be in a Subaru in the first place.

spintheground · 02-08-2013, 01:35 PM

STi Drivetrain
STi brakes

There is a lot more to add..but just look up dealer pricing on those two, new.

What v8 · 02-08-2013, 01:48 PM

Dear god tell me the only point being made is that they have the same horsepower they must be the same car. Am i on nasioc or did i accidentally go to the mustang forums?

Concillian · 02-08-2013, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kennyboy

Interesting stuff, man. I'm glad I decided on a WRX premium rather than a STI base. I couldn't wrap my head around the $7-8k difference.

haha...
Hot button...
you pressed it...
expect at least 3 or 4 pages of people arguing the merits of STi vs. WRX.

Kennyboy · 02-08-2013, 01:50 PM

I knew the higher price in the sti was basically tranny, diffs, and brakes. But for most of us, the WRX delivers with daily driving and the occasional lead foot. I'm satisfied knowing that with a couple simple bolt ons and a safe tune,, I can really open it up.

What v8 · 02-08-2013, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kennyboy

I knew the higher price in the sti was basically tranny, diffs, and brakes. But for most of us, the WRX delivers with daily driving and the occasional lead foot. I'm satisfied knowing that with a couple simple bolt ons and a safe tune,, I can really open it up.

until you launch it a couple times

meat_WRX · 02-08-2013, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badler

I mean they have the same amount of WHP, how could they even be different? People who buy STi's must be teh stupid.

is this serious post?

Kennyboy · 02-08-2013, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What v8

Dear god tell me the only point being made is that they have the same horsepower they must be the same car. Am i on nasioc or did i accidentally go to the mustang forums?

I just wanted to know real life power difference. I'm not debating wether or not the STI is better performer, just if its worth throwing down the extra cheese.

What v8 · 02-08-2013, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kennyboy

I just wanted to know real life power difference. I'm not debating wether or not the STI is better performer, just if its worth throwing down the extra cheese.

imo well worth the extra dough, the tranny situation alone is worth it.

GVR4 420 · 02-08-2013, 01:58 PM

People IQ's are dropping fast

meat_WRX · 02-08-2013, 01:59 PM

its has better brakes, i dont know the difference in suspension on the new sti's and wrx. wheels/tires?

The transmission alone as stated is worth 6-7 grand over the ****ty wrx trans. When you upgrade your sti you can sell the sti parts. when you upgrade the wrx, noone wants the stock **** (less demand)

we did stage 2 on my boys 2012 sti and holy **** the car is fast. ive never rode in a stage 2 wrx that i thought was fast.

edit- i guess if you want to leave it stock. then get a wrx.

907Bum · 02-08-2013, 02:00 PM

Plus the wrx has the LGT style turbo, limiting intercooler size and turbo options. Upgrade options for an STI turbo/intercooler are much higher in number. There are many things the STI trim comes with over the WRX base. The solid steering knuckle, tighter steering rack turn to lock, aluminum control arms, dual avcs vs just intake and larger front 5x114.3 bearings just to name a few of the perks.

BlazeRex · 02-08-2013, 02:08 PM

The STI is a much better car. And once tuned they do tend to make some more power. DAVCS is pretty sweet. Plus the stock intercooler is great, while the WRX is quite subpar

Meeno · 02-08-2013, 02:15 PM

I got the STi over the WRX because I thought the STi badge looked nicer.

Ballistic1350 · 02-08-2013, 02:23 PM

or you could buy an older sti for way cheaper and have leftover money to mod...

spintheground · 02-08-2013, 02:27 PM

OR you could buy an old L and a salvaged STi and do a swap...

Just look up insurance rates for an L and an STi..

WWhiteSTI · 02-08-2013, 04:34 PM

Is it ok that I bought an STI because well..... I wanted to?

02-08-2013, 09:18 AM	#1
Kennyboy Scooby Newbie Member#: 337699 Join Date: Nov 2012 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Pittsfield, MA Vehicle: 2013 WRX Sedan Prem DGM	Real dyno numbers I've searched the forum. Does anyone have real dyno numbers comparing stock 2013 WRX vs STI? I bet they're closer than what subaru published. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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02-08-2013, 10:31 AM	#2
Badler Scooby Guru Member#: 133597 Join Date: Nov 2006 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Costa Mesa	They are about the same. Tons of threads about it on here.

02-08-2013, 11:51 AM	#3
Mach V Dan NASIOC Vendor Member#: 12029 Join Date: Nov 2001 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Sterling, VA	Here's a 2008 STI (mechanically the same as 2013), all stock. I haven't found a stock late-model WRX graph yet, although I must have one somewhere. --Dan Mach V FastWRX.com

02-08-2013, 12:46 PM	#5
Kennyboy Scooby Newbie Member#: 337699 Join Date: Nov 2012 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Pittsfield, MA Vehicle: 2013 WRX Sedan Prem DGM	Interesting stuff, man. I'm glad I decided on a WRX premium rather than a STI base. I couldn't wrap my head around the $7-8k difference.

02-08-2013, 01:01 PM	#6
mmfullen Scooby Specialist Member#: 236685 Join Date: Jan 2010 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Hampton, VA Vehicle: 2008 WRX 5 door WRB 30R'd &PPG'd...yup.	Unless you keep them stock, it's worth it in the end to go STI. I have a 2008 wrx that now has a built trans, rotated setup (tuned by Dan), and makes 380whp because of obvious block limitations. The transmission however...is where the money is worth it. Wrx transmission breaks at...yes. STI transmission takes a beating. My built 5-speed cost me $6,000ish...and that doesn't cover diffs. In the end I have some regrets over the 5 speed wrx. That's my justification.

02-08-2013, 01:27 PM	#8
jnorth85 NASIOC Supporter Member#: 76785 Join Date: Dec 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: DSM iowa Vehicle: 2000 RSTi Coupe SRP	because the 5 speed sucks if you decide to modify past the stock turbo, and upgrading to a 6 speed costs $texas$

02-08-2013, 01:32 PM	#9
Meeno Scooby Newbie Member#: 320547 Join Date: May 2012 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: SF Vehicle: 2013 STi Hatch PBP	If it were all about the fastest car you could buy for the money none of us would be in a Subaru in the first place.

02-08-2013, 01:35 PM	#10
spintheground Scooby Specialist Member#: 239638 Join Date: Feb 2010 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: VA Beach Vehicle: 2007 WRX TR UGM 02 MR2 EGM	STi Drivetrain STi brakes There is a lot more to add..but just look up dealer pricing on those two, new.

02-08-2013, 01:48 PM	#11
What v8 Scooby Newbie Member#: 254718 Join Date: Aug 2010	Dear god tell me the only point being made is that they have the same horsepower they must be the same car. Am i on nasioc or did i accidentally go to the mustang forums?

02-08-2013, 01:50 PM	#13
Kennyboy Scooby Newbie Member#: 337699 Join Date: Nov 2012 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Pittsfield, MA Vehicle: 2013 WRX Sedan Prem DGM	I knew the higher price in the sti was basically tranny, diffs, and brakes. But for most of us, the WRX delivers with daily driving and the occasional lead foot. I'm satisfied knowing that with a couple simple bolt ons and a safe tune,, I can really open it up.

02-08-2013, 01:58 PM	#18
GVR4 420 Scooby Newbie Member#: 105450 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boston Vehicle: 2005 Forester XT White	People IQ's are dropping fast

02-08-2013, 01:59 PM	#19
meat_WRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 96919 Join Date: Sep 2005 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: chesapeake va Vehicle: 2004 sti black	its has better brakes, i dont know the difference in suspension on the new sti's and wrx. wheels/tires? The transmission alone as stated is worth 6-7 grand over the **ty wrx trans. When you upgrade your sti you can sell the sti parts. when you upgrade the wrx, noone wants the stock (less demand) we did stage 2 on my boys 2012 sti and holy ** the car is fast. ive never rode in a stage 2 wrx that i thought was fast. edit- i guess if you want to leave it stock. then get a wrx.

02-08-2013, 02:00 PM	#20
907Bum Scooby Specialist Member#: 183634 Join Date: Jul 2008 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: At the "B" Vehicle: 02 wrx/ 92 ss Booze fueled :)	Plus the wrx has the LGT style turbo, limiting intercooler size and turbo options. Upgrade options for an STI turbo/intercooler are much higher in number. There are many things the STI trim comes with over the WRX base. The solid steering knuckle, tighter steering rack turn to lock, aluminum control arms, dual avcs vs just intake and larger front 5x114.3 bearings just to name a few of the perks.

02-08-2013, 02:08 PM	#21
BlazeRex Scooby Specialist Member#: 268354 Join Date: Dec 2010 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Massachusetts Vehicle: 02 WRX 05 LGT Slow Automatics	The STI is a much better car. And once tuned they do tend to make some more power. DAVCS is pretty sweet. Plus the stock intercooler is great, while the WRX is quite subpar

02-08-2013, 02:15 PM	#22
Meeno Scooby Newbie Member#: 320547 Join Date: May 2012 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: SF Vehicle: 2013 STi Hatch PBP	I got the STi over the WRX because I thought the STi badge looked nicer.

02-08-2013, 02:23 PM	#23
Ballistic1350 Scooby Newbie Member#: 156877 Join Date: Aug 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: North Wales, PA Vehicle: 04 sti	or you could buy an older sti for way cheaper and have leftover money to mod...

02-08-2013, 02:27 PM	#24
spintheground Scooby Specialist Member#: 239638 Join Date: Feb 2010 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: VA Beach Vehicle: 2007 WRX TR UGM 02 MR2 EGM	OR you could buy an old L and a salvaged STi and do a swap... Just look up insurance rates for an L and an STi..

02-08-2013, 04:34 PM	#25
WWhiteSTI Scooby Newbie Member#: 335937 Join Date: Oct 2012 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: El Paso, TX Vehicle: 2011 STI Silver	Is it ok that I bought an STI because well..... I wanted to?