Cobb ap Stage 1 for 2013 Wrx

[dsn112]

Originally Posted by jeonster

Lol. I almost stalled it today. i need more time getting used to the throttle into 1st. I live in CT so everything is highway.

Went for a bad boy drive earlier and yes there is more power. Sadly, ive gotten used to it already. When does it end!?

Never unfortunately

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[JK1320]

Has anyone noticed the dip in RPM's when you left of the gas and say coast to a stop. It seems like they take a little dive and for a second it almost seems like the motor will stall out. It never does, but it feels like the revs go lower than they should.

Wondering if that is just me or if others have noticed it.

I did also notice the huge change in the throttle, it took about 100 miles for it to start to feel consistent, but then it was still drastically different than the factory feel to the peddle. I like it better for cruising, I think it was am improvement after I got used to it.

[Pakal967]

Originally Posted by JK1320

Has anyone noticed the dip in RPM's when you left of the gas and say coast to a stop. It seems like they take a little dive and for a second it almost seems like the motor will stall out. It never does, but it feels like the revs go lower than they should.

Wondering if that is just me or if others have noticed it.

I did also notice the huge change in the throttle, it took about 100 miles for it to start to feel consistent, but then it was still drastically different than the factory feel to the peddle. I like it better for cruising, I think it was am improvement after I got used to it.

Nope, haven't experienced that myself, with around 2000 miles so far with the stg 1 map.

Might be useful to do some logs to see how it's behaving. There's info on Cobb's site on how and what, I found it reassuring and what I like about having an AP.

And also looking forward to doing more when I can too, heh.

- Steve

[JK1320]

Originally Posted by Pakal967

Nope, haven't experienced that myself, with around 2000 miles so far with the stg 1 map.

Might be useful to do some logs to see how it's behaving. There's info on Cobb's site on how and what, I found it reassuring and what I like about having an AP.

And also looking forward to doing more when I can too, heh.

- Steve

I datalogged and Cobb said it looked great, I reviewed it myself but wanted them to confirm my beliefs.

It just seemed to me when I let of the throttle completely and the rpms go down they take a quick dip and then settle on a higher idle rpm.

Not a problem or anything, just something I noticed.

[Mgw24]

Originally Posted by JK1320

I datalogged and Cobb said it looked great, I reviewed it myself but wanted them to confirm my beliefs.

It just seemed to me when I let of the throttle completely and the rpms go down they take a quick dip and then settle on a higher idle rpm.

Not a problem or anything, just something I noticed.

My 2013 does this stock, very consistently. I was hoping a tune would get rid of it.

[kris5597]

I just installed the Cobb Stage 1 93 octane map on my bone stock 2013. I went over the map, other than running a little rich, the map is real nice. I have heard some different things about people having issues with the Cobb basemaps, as a self-tuner, I would just assume that the people running issues did not abide by the guidelines that cobb recommends on the car modifications on each basemap. I am going to put a Perrin drop in filter in soon and re-calibrate the MAF and go over the tune again and see what kind of power I can push out of it. Overall, I am extremely how well the car performs for just a basemap.

Kris

[04shizzel]

Hey guys just installed my cobb downpipe, and flashed to stage 2. I havent driven much or had a chance to data log, but i did some pulls with the ap hooked up and the car hit 19.1lb boost in 3rd. I know the target is 18 and taper. im not really driving it hard all over the place right now, im just curious if i should try to run the low waste gat stage 2 instead.
Thanks in Advance!

[OxCitywrx09]

Originally Posted by 04shizzel

Hey guys just installed my cobb downpipe, and flashed to stage 2. I havent driven much or had a chance to data log, but i did some pulls with the ap hooked up and the car hit 19.1lb boost in 3rd. I know the target is 18 and taper. im not really driving it hard all over the place right now, im just curious if i should try to run the low waste gat stage 2 instead.
Thanks in Advance!

Target boost has a variance of +/- 1 lb of boost according to the map notes. (stage 2 + cobb intake with 93oct). Stage 2 without intake has same target and same variance. I am not sure how much .1 lbs of boost will affect performance. Maybe someone else can chime in on the subject.

I think you should run a datalog and some pulls to confirm how much boost you are actually running, and it will also provide a boost error column (i don't remember exactly what it is called) which tells you if you are over or under the target boost.

[04shizzel]

Originally Posted by OxCitywrx09

Target boost has a variance of +/- 1 lb of boost according to the map notes. (stage 2 + cobb intake with 93oct). Stage 2 without intake has same target and same variance. I am not sure how much .1 lbs of boost will affect performance. Maybe someone else can chime in on the subject.

I think you should run a datalog and some pulls to confirm how much boost you are actually running, and it will also provide a boost error column (i don't remember exactly what it is called) which tells you if you are over or under the target boost.

Ok sounds good, will try to get a data log today .
Thanks

[OxCitywrx09]

I just got an aem wide band yesterday and I am not sure if the values are correct. At idle it is roughly at 14.5 ish. I have read that that value is at a good range. Same value at cruising speeds at well. However under wot, I see 10.

Mods are:
Cobb ap v3 w/ stage 2+ OTS
Cobb dp + sf intake
'13 wrx.

I have an appnt for a protune on the 18th, however I just want to know if 10 is a safe value to drive my car under wot.

[Cobb Tuning]

Originally Posted by OxCitywrx09

I just got an aem wide band yesterday and I am not sure if the values are correct. At idle it is roughly at 14.5 ish. I have read that that value is at a good range. Same value at cruising speeds at well. However under wot, I see 10.

Mods are:
Cobb ap v3 w/ stage 2+ OTS
Cobb dp + sf intake
'13 wrx.

I have an appnt for a protune on the 18th, however I just want to know if 10 is a safe value to drive my car under wot.

Our OTS maps are designed to more on the conservative side of things, so they run a little on the richer side at high load, so something in the 10.x:1 range at high load (WOT above 3000 RPM) is to be expected and is fine.

Bill

[Cho.co.pie]

Originally Posted by Cobb Tuning

Our OTS maps are designed to more on the conservative side of things, so they run a little on the richer side at high load, so something in the 10.x:1 range at high load (WOT above 3000 RPM) is to be expected and is fine.

Bill

dannngggg thooooo. gotta make them flames shoot out.

[Cho.co.pie]

OK so I finally got my cobb ap for my '13 wrx and I love it! Its running the 91ACN stage 1 tune on the stock intake, but I want moar! I have a bit more money to spend and I want to buy a sf/aem intake. Will there be any noticeable performance gain over the stock intake box when comparing it to the other stage 1 maps? I read somewhere that the intakes are pretty much for sound, unless if its tuned? Is that true? If the power figures are pretty much the same between the stock and sf/aem intakes then ill just save my money for a future stage 2 upgrade.

[JAMM0N]

save your money for a stage 2 and its not difficult to find a DP

[04shizzel]

Originally Posted by 04shizzel

Hey guys just installed my cobb downpipe, and flashed to stage 2. I havent driven much or had a chance to data log, but i did some pulls with the ap hooked up and the car hit 19.1lb boost in 3rd. I know the target is 18 and taper. im not really driving it hard all over the place right now, im just curious if i should try to run the low waste gat stage 2 instead.
Thanks in Advance!

Here are a few logs stage 2 93, lwg
if someone could check them out and let me know i would appreciate it!
both logs are 3rd gear.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...FJzQ0YxWERfaVE

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Fg3Rkl3dWtzY3c

[OxCitywrx09]

Originally Posted by Cho.co.pie

OK so I finally got my cobb ap for my '13 wrx and I love it! Its running the 91ACN stage 1 tune on the stock intake, but I want moar! I have a bit more money to spend and I want to buy a sf/aem intake. Will there be any noticeable performance gain over the stock intake box when comparing it to the other stage 1 maps? I read somewhere that the intakes are pretty much for sound, unless if its tuned? Is that true? If the power figures are pretty much the same between the stock and sf/aem intakes then ill just save my money for a future stage 2 upgrade.

Here is a couple of things i ran into when i went stage two. With the new dp, you're probably gonna run into some boost creep. Intake and dp combo will cause even more boost creep do to the increase in exhaust flow. At stage two, bypass valve, tmic, and throttle body coupler become very weak points as well. Boost creep can be eliminated by ewg or ported internal waste gate. These are more things that become of concern and have to be addressed to prevent issues. This raised the cost of going stage two a good amount.

I believe the intake would be a good stepping stone and it produces a glorious sound for some. It wouldn't hurt to have a better flowing intake. Intakes are still cheaper than catted downpipes, and a hell of a lot easier to install as well.

[Cobb Tuning]

Originally Posted by 04shizzel

Here are a few logs stage 2 93, lwg
if someone could check them out and let me know i would appreciate it!
both logs are 3rd gear.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...FJzQ0YxWERfaVE

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Fg3Rkl3dWtzY3c

Hi there. I responded to your other thread.

Bill

[keonigt]

Would my 2013 wrx be ready for accessport even if I only have 2200 miles?

Thanks.

[GrandPooPaw]

First WRX, First AccessPort - initial data log - Stage 1 93 MTv300. 2013 WRX - Can someone see and review for me?

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx5-...it?usp=sharing

[dsn112]

Originally Posted by keonigt

Would my 2013 wrx be ready for accessport even if I only have 2200 miles?

Thanks.

I only had 4500. I don't see how waiting would matter, you are past the 1k breakin

[GrandPooPaw]

Installed mine with 1200 miles

[Cho.co.pie]

yah. i have 2700 miles and im already on stage 2. lol.

[steve2788]

Yea I installed a invidia q300 catback at 800 and just ordered ap and sf intake at 1100

[dsn112]

Anyone with thoughts on 92 octane? Wawa up in the Philly area has 92 as premium, can I run that with a 93 tune?

[OxCitywrx09]

Originally Posted by dsn112

Anyone with thoughts on 92 octane? Wawa up in the Philly area has 92 as premium, can I run that with a 93 tune?

I am pretty sure that you won't be able to run the same map as it is for a different fuel, so the parameters are going to be different.