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Old 02-11-2013, 12:41 PM   #26
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The fact that the mechanic sent him on his way when the OP came back in after 13k miles with warped rotors and burned pads without any other analysis of the problem makes me question if he knows what he's doing....he better hope he has good liability insurance!
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:45 AM   #27
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I yanked the heck out of my back muscles about 3 weeks ago and haven't driven much (very short trips)... and two days now of a little further. It hurts to sit for long.

I started turning off my traction control system and the problem goes away. I haven't heard any creaking sounds, I feel no extreme resistance when driving, the brakes aren't hot beyond reasonable heat. The brake pedal has no sluggishness. Temperature readings on the rotors are in the low 30's (F) when cold and 65-75 when hot. I need to do more tests.

When I turn traction control back on there is some obvious resistance, but not like I had been experiencing.

I'm going to still try to get this fixed, but getting ready to start a vanpool. So my yearly mileage will go from about 45,000 / year to maybe 5,000 / year.

Checklist of things to check:
- Brake piston and Caliper slide pins
- Air in brake lines. Not likely since brake pedal is not sluggish when hot or cold.
- Booster and/or the ABS pump
- Verification of the parts used. He lets me buy my own parts, too, if I want.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:14 PM   #28
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if turning off traction control alleviates the issue, were you seeing the TCS light come on a lot? if so, it would lead me to believe that you may have a finicky wheel speed sensor that didn't manage to fail completely. if turning off traction control gets rid of the issue when you aren't expecting to lose any traction, the problem is not the brakes themselves. I don't know much about the TCS Subaru uses, esp. since I don't even have one, but it sounds like the culprit may be in there.
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Old 02-27-2013, 02:52 PM   #29
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No idiot lights, whatsoever. It only turns on when I physically press the button to turn off traction control... or when TCS is turned on and I lose traction.

Something is funky and I wouldn't be surprised if it has something to do with computer.
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Old 02-28-2013, 06:52 AM   #30
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No idiot lights, whatsoever. It only turns on when I physically press the button to turn off traction control... or when TCS is turned on and I lose traction.

Something is funky and I wouldn't be surprised if it has something to do with computer.
yeah...id be calling soa about this one....i think
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Old 04-02-2013, 11:36 AM   #31
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I haven't been able to replicate the problems lately.

I finally took the car to Subaru yesterday. They said it's because I'm using aftermarket pads & rotors and I should be using factory parts instead. The technician I spoke to said he has a 1998 Outback with 300k miles on it... and has had the same issue as me. He said with factory pads/rotors they would last 50-80+k miles. When he used aftermarket they would last 5-7k miles.

Subaru said if the problem continues after using authentic Subaru parts, then they'll look into it.

I now have a van-pool, so instead of driving 125 miles / day, I'm now doing maybe 5 miles / day. I don't see doing a brake job for quite some time. My current aftermarket parts aren't doing funky things right now.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:01 PM   #32
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I finally took the car to Subaru yesterday. They said it's because I'm using aftermarket pads & rotors and I should be using factory parts instead. The technician I spoke to said he has a 1998 Outback with 300k miles on it... and has had the same issue as me. He said with factory pads/rotors they would last 50-80+k miles. When he used aftermarket they would last 5-7k miles.

Subaru said if the problem continues after using authentic Subaru parts, then they'll look into it.
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Old 04-03-2013, 10:04 AM   #33
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No brake setup should ever last "5-7k" miles.... that's just a lie. If the problem truly goes away with TCS disabled then it is an issue with the TCS system, likely the wheel speed sensors. You can drive with TCS off everytime or just pull the ABS fuse.
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Old 02-27-2014, 09:23 PM   #34
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If aftermarket brakes always wore out at 5-7k miles there would be a lot of people on here complaining lol. That tech is a tool.
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Old 02-27-2014, 10:19 PM   #35
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I got a brake job done at a tire shop. 2k miles later my rotors were glazed and pads were burnt.


The dipsticks put economy rotors on my car....they were vented but not cross cut or coated.

Took them 3 times of changing the rotors til they finally hand measured.

Wrx's brakes are tricky for the non subaru master. Lots of interchangeable part numbers on the same and different years.......
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Old 02-28-2014, 08:56 PM   #36
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I got a brake job done at a tire shop. 2k miles later my rotors were glazed and pads were burnt.


The dipsticks put economy rotors on my car....they were vented but not cross cut or coated.

Took them 3 times of changing the rotors til they finally hand measured.

Wrx's brakes are tricky for the non subaru master. Lots of interchangeable part numbers on the same and different years.......
Can't be true.
According to this forum anything other than a cheap high carbon steel rotor is a waste of money and just for bling.
Y'know, all these companies that have their own alloy steel rotor formulas that have been proven to last longer and perform better. They are just fakers.

PS. To the OP. Hook up a Subaru Select Monitor (or equivalent) and test the ABS, and TCS modules. From here you should also be able to diagnose if it is a wheel speed sensor with a driving test to determine the reported speed at each sensor.
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