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View Poll Results: Do you want a Fiesta ST
No AWD No Care 104 39.10%
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:40 PM   #126
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Oh doesn't he want a all wheel coupe though which there is no market for?

I'm just saying it would be fantastic if another manufacturer made a 3 or 5 door DIT all wheel drive hatch to compete with Subaru. The only real competition is the Golf R which is very expensive. Mitsi's Evo is a dead man walking.
I like to stay away from the AWD/2WD debates as they go nowhere, so I will make my contribution brief.

RS yes, ST no.

It would defeat the purpose of the Fiesta ST. You can't have light weight, awd, 200hp and it have stay within the $20K mark. Maybe if they did a Fiesta RS down the road, but not with the ST game plan. Both weight and cost would increase, and MPG would decrease, all of which are what make this little tike desirable.




I know it was stated some where, but is this 1.6t a new Ford motor, an addition to a pre-existing 1.6, or a motor borrowed from another car?
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:04 AM   #127
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Old 02-11-2013, 12:54 PM   #128
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meh, I would take one over a prius, but umm no thanks; I've found that FWD cars make my soul cry out in pain. I'd like one in RWD 180hp+4dr hatch+6MT = fun little hooligan eco-box.
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:02 PM   #129
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Thanks, Arthur.
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:54 PM   #130
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I cannot wait for this car to come out. This would make a really fun DD.
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:22 AM   #131
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Default 2014 Ford Fiesta ST priced from $21,400*

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The 2014 model year brings a whole host of changes to Ford's Fiesta B-Segment fighter, the most important of which (to our enthusiast eyes, anyway) is the addition of a potent new ST model. The US-spec hot hatch was first shown at the 2012 Los Angeles Auto Show last November, and thanks to Ford's build-and-price site, we've now learned that the Fiesta ST will slide in at $21,400 when it goes on sale later this year (*not including $795 for destination).

Under the hood of the ST is a turbocharged 1.6-liter EcoBoost inline-four good for 197 horsepower and 214 pound-feet of torque, mated solely to a six-speed manual transmission. Ford hasn't released performance data on its pint-sized puncher just yet, but know that these numbers make the Fiesta ST ever-so-slightly more powerful than the larger Volkswagen GTI while returning an estimated 34 miles per gallon on the highway.

Elsewhere in the lineup, the standard Fiesta also gets a smattering of improvements for the 2014 model year, including a new 1.0-liter three-cylinder turbocharged engine and revised exterior styling. Pricing for the 2014 Fiesta sedan starts at $14,000, with the five-door model adding $600 to that number (again excluding the $795 destination fee).

We've played around with the online configurator, and a fully loaded Fiesta ST comes in right below the $27,000 mark. Of course, this price includes niceties like partial-leather Recaro seats ($1,995), a HD audio system with MyFord Touch infotainment and navigation ($795), upgraded 17-inch dark alloy wheels ($795) and a power moonroof ($795). Molten Orange and Green Envy paint schemes will set you back an additional $595, as well.

Here's where things get tricky, though: Option out a larger Focus ST with similar levels of equipment and you're spending $29,825, all-in. Even at the base end of the spectrum, the larger Focus only represents a $2,300 price premium over the Fiesta ST, and in addition to quite a bit more space, the bigger hatch also offers a more powerful 2.0-liter turbo four with 252 horses and 270 lb-ft.
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:34 AM   #132
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That's just a little more than I was hoping for, and $2k for the recaros is kind of a bummer. Still pretty cool but close enough to Focus ST territory that I'd probably just spend another $2300 and go with that. Hypothetically.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:04 PM   #133
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That's just a little more than I was hoping for, and $2k for the recaros is kind of a bummer. Still pretty cool but close enough to Focus ST territory that I'd probably just spend another $2300 and go with that. Hypothetically.
Ditto. I'll still test drive one, but 22k is a bit much for the Recaro-less Fiesta, turbo or not. I'm sure it's a fun car, but the should have started the base ST lower. That's pretty risky running it that close to the Focus.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:09 PM   #134
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I do not know guys.

Fully loaded for less than 27k. Nicely loaded for 24ish. That is a screaming deal. Sure the Focus gets you a bit more room. But a fully loaded Focus ST is touching 30. I think this price point makes sense. If the Fiesta drives as nicely as the Focus, wow, this is going to be a fun car.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:15 PM   #135
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If the Fiesta drives as nicely as the Focus, wow, this is going to be a fun car.
The Fiesta is not equipped to drive as nicely as the Focus.. it has a twist-beam rear axle. If Ford tried to tune it to oversteer as easily as the Focus ST they'd be facing a lot of lawsuits.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:19 PM   #136
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Is the configurator online yet for the public? This computer sucks and doesn't have flash so I have to wait til I get home to build one the way I want it.

If it really can be nicely loaded for 24k, that's not bad. But still, a nicely loaded Focus is not that much more.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:21 PM   #137
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I have not given up hope yet, Calamity. This going to be a very light vehicle. The rear end may not be as big a negative. Software can do crazy cool things. We will have to weight and see.

It would not surprise me if the Fiesta puts the moves on the Focus like the WRX does to the STI.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:24 PM   #138
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I have not given up hope yet, Calamity. This going to be a very light vehicle. The rear end may not be as big a negative. Software can do crazy cool things. We will have to weight and see.

It would not surprise me if the Fiesta puts the moves on the Focus like the WRX does to the STI.
I see what you did there.

This is going to be a fun car to drive, I also built one with everything i wanted for 24k. The Focus was 29k after adding what i wanted.
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Old 02-27-2013, 02:30 PM   #139
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I have not given up hope yet, Calamity. This going to be a very light vehicle. The rear end may not be as big a negative. Software can do crazy cool things. We will have to weight and see.

It would not surprise me if the Fiesta puts the moves on the Focus like the WRX does to the STI.
You know, Scrappy, it's funny: Once we get beyond the EV issue, our taste in cars is remarkably similar.
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Ah come on, if we did not have something to argue about, life would get boring!
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:13 PM   #141
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I'd buy a base Focus ST instead just to avoid the MyFordTouch crap.

It's standard on the Fiesta ST.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:03 PM   #142
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$24950 for the ST I would buy!
$27500 For the Abarth I would buy!
$28500 for the BRZ I would buy!

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Old 02-27-2013, 07:59 PM   #143
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I'd buy a base Focus ST instead just to avoid the MyFordTouch crap.

It's standard on the Fiesta ST.
This is my biggest turn off. I wish they would have done a base car with basic stereo, basic key, 16" rims, etc. and then price it at $19k. Like the WRX TR was.
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You know, Scrappy, it's funny: Once we get beyond the EV issue, our taste in cars is remarkably similar.
When it comes to Hot Hatches, Scrappy and I think alike.


I would probably buy the Fiesta ST over the 2014 larger GTI. But, as mentioned above, the Focus isn't much more cashe.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:16 AM   #145
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I have not given up hope yet, Calamity. This going to be a very light vehicle. The rear end may not be as big a negative.
The software can't make up for a rinky-dink suspension that reduces grip one whole end of the car when you encounter bumps mid-turn. The software can only help control the car when it has traction to work with. The problem with twist-beams is that they're designed to be cheap and low clearance (for a lower rear floor).. there's no handling consideration involved in their engineering.

If Ford were to make a bespoke control blade rear suspension for the Fiesta ST, it would probably be an incredible all-around car.. but as is, it will see the same handling issues as any other twist-beam equipped car.

For the Grand-Am B-Spec series, Ford Racing's spec suspension kit relocates the springs from the twist-beam to the shock body. This removes some of the additional flex from the system.. it will be interesting to see if the ST is set up this way or not.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:36 AM   #146
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Well they will have to do something about that. I am relatively sure that Ford knows of this shortcoming. If they leave it as is, then we know must have bumped up against the dollar barrier.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:29 PM   #147
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I'd buy a base Focus ST instead just to avoid the MyFordTouch crap.

It's standard on the Fiesta ST.
Have you tried a recent iteration of MyFordTouch? I rented a new Explorer this past week and I though MFT was brilliant.
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Old 02-28-2013, 06:39 PM   #148
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Have you tried a recent iteration of MyFordTouch? I rented a new Explorer this past week and I though MFT was brilliant.
Yes.

I spent the better part of an hour playing with MFT in a '13 Escape Titanium while my pal was working a saleslady over a couple of weeks ago.

The hard-key audio systems with SYNC are actually quite good. Touchscreens blow.
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Old 03-01-2013, 10:55 AM   #149
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Wow Edmunds was off - they were hoping for under $20K

http://www.edmunds.com/ford/fiesta/2014/road-test.html
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:25 AM   #150
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I really like this little scooter.
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