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Old 02-12-2013, 06:25 PM   #26
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I'm soo confused as to what you're getting to. Bumping base pressure?
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:14 PM   #27
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I'm soo confused as to what you're getting to. Bumping base pressure?
OK, I'll spell it out in more detail.

A bigger pump (like the walbro 465) with a larger 10-12 gauge re-wire through the OEM FPC will help maintain a constant voltage at the 33, 66 and 100% pump duties, a FPR (like the Aeromotive 1000) to set the base pressure higher like 50 psi and you can increase the flow rate of any injector. If you do this you can decrease the IDC's for the given injector.

Now improve VE by means like the Killer B Holy Header and head work, PnP of the intake manifold, piston design...etc....and then you will make more power at lower rpm's and make more over all because you are wasting less power through parasitic loss!

You make more with less! Less is more Capish?
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:58 PM   #28
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OK, I'll spell it out in more detail.

A bigger pump (like the walbro 465) with a larger 10-12 gauge re-wire through the OEM FPC will help maintain a constant voltage at the 33, 66 and 100% pump duties, a FPR (like the Aeromotive 1000) to set the base pressure higher like 50 psi and you can increase the flow rate of any injector. If you do this you can decrease the IDC's for the given injector.

Now improve VE by means like the Killer B Holy Header and head work, PnP of the intake manifold, piston design...etc....and then you will make more power at lower rpm's and make more over all because you are wasting less power through parasitic loss!

You make more with less! Less is more Capish?
Ohh yes, all this is true! I thought what you were saying is 'Take a stage 2 STi, tune it, check IDCs. Now take that same car, slap on ONLY a header, retune, IDCs will drop'. I just dont see that happening
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:18 PM   #29
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It would lower the IDCs at the same power output and it'll make more power and probably use less fuel doing it.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:30 PM   #30
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It would lower the IDCs at the same power output and it'll make more power and probably use less fuel doing it.
Correct, that goes back to what I was saying earlier. I think we're basically on the same page now. At a given power level, you'll use less with a good header. But the header has the potential to flow even more air if you'd like (or can), thus using more total fuel.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:35 PM   #31
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Correct, that goes back to what I was saying earlier. I think we're basically on the same page now. At a given power level, you'll use less with a good header. But the header has the potential to flow even more air if you'd like (or can), thus using more total fuel.
Yep! Explain yourself better next time and save us some time!! Haha....jk
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:44 PM   #32
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Jesus. If only all my arguments were solved so easily lol
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Old 02-12-2013, 09:22 PM   #33
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Jesus. If only all my arguments were solved so easily lol
Who was arguing? It was more translation and education! Lol
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:38 PM   #34
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We don't have E85 in Mexico, but i could probably mix it myself (ethanol is easy to get and our gas does not contain any)
Since its easy to get ethanol why dont you get tuned on e100 and make some really serious power
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Old 02-18-2013, 12:26 PM   #35
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YEP! That header is an AMAZING piece.

OP Add e85 and have the pull start at 2k rpm, you will see 300ftlbs before 3k rpm.

Would it be safe on the stock motor??

I know these cars are notorious for braking ringlands...
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:13 PM   #36
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Would it be safe on the stock motor??

I know these cars are notorious for braking ringlands...
"Safe" is a little bit of a loaded question to ask a tuner or anyone for that matter! I mean your car is not that old, not sure of the mileage but I'm sure you cared for it. I'm sure you know the rest!!
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:11 PM   #37
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Yup i kinda ment le ess likely to blow.

I know a bad tank of gas and the engine can take a poop...

Im only @ 15k miles
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:14 PM   #38
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Yup i kinda ment le ess likely to blow.

I know a bad tank of gas and the engine can take a poop...

Im only @ 15k miles
But it's more than that, we all want to push the stock turbo, it's a ragged edge and the bottom end is not really up to it!
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:59 AM   #39
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They are way ahead of the game. At first I figured they were the best choice for a 300-400whp car.... After tuning Manitou's XTi and seeing that even on a bigger turbo they work AWESOME I am sold. They spool faster, and make more power then the rest.

The rest of those brands are pretty much the same basic design that has been around for years
Even the Invidia race big tube header? That seems to be the closest in design to having a real merge between the two heads' primaries just like the KillerB. The other ones I fully agree are poorly designed, they just dump the one set of primaries at way too steep of an angle into the second set of primaries to be any good. The only one I could see being any competition to the KillerB is the Invidia big tube race, any expirience with that header? KillerB still seem superior in design to that? Thanks for your input.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:16 AM   #40
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If you make the primaries larger than the exhaust port you'll just slow the gases down.
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:47 PM   #41
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Even the Invidia race big tube header? That seems to be the closest in design to having a real merge between the two heads' primaries just like the KillerB. The other ones I fully agree are poorly designed, they just dump the one set of primaries at way too steep of an angle into the second set of primaries to be any good. The only one I could see being any competition to the KillerB is the Invidia big tube race, any expirience with that header? KillerB still seem superior in design to that? Thanks for your input.
The use of 321 stainless steel of the Killer B header alone makes them better than other headers that (may) supply similar results. I have not seen any information on the Invidia big tube header though...
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:47 PM   #42
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Good power, plan on getting this Swaintech coated when I switch to e85. Pumps, injectors, ect already ordered.
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:47 PM   #43
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jesus lord the price on this thing....what if it cracks....congratz on the power
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:51 AM   #44
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jesus lord the price on this thing....what if it cracks....congratz on the power
They are not cheap especially in Canada but they are worth every penny! They produce quick spool and support big power!!

I've cracked other el headers and blown out flex joints in Grimm x and up pipes which they warranted. These are very burly and made from 321 SS so you won't crack them. I'm sure they would warranty them if for some reason you did.
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Old 03-05-2013, 08:03 PM   #45
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jesus lord the price on this thing....what if it cracks....congratz on the power
Highly unlikely it would crack, but it comes with a lifetime warranty just in case.
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:21 PM   #46
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^ that's true
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Old 07-14-2013, 06:57 PM   #47
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in trying to decide between the Kamak TD06SL2 or the Blouch 1.5, any thoughts on either of these with my current setup
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:13 AM   #48
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I would go with the Blouch 2.5 XTR vs. these 2 turbos. You'll get the bugger 60mm turbine wheel with the 2.5 which will flow better up top and not spool much later if at all.
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Old 12-10-2013, 05:59 PM   #49
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Reviving a dead threa here, but, what kind of power could i expect from a 2.5 XTR on 91 oct fuel?
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Old 12-10-2013, 06:48 PM   #50
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Reviving a dead threa here, but, what kind of power could i expect from a 2.5 XTR on 91 oct fuel?
I would bet upper 300's. The trouble with 91 is you can't run much boost or timing. The KIller B Holy Header will help here.
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