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Old 02-22-2013, 12:24 PM   #26
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Can never go wrong with the goldies. Bbs makes lugnuts too fyi
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Old 02-22-2013, 12:26 PM   #27
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Yeah, but after having to spend entirely too much for old wheels, I'd rather not spend a fortune on expensive lugnuts again. On my Si I had Volk GTN two piece wheels and ran those $200 Rays lugnuts.. It looked great, but trying to do it a little more budget at the moment. lol
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Old 02-22-2013, 12:29 PM   #28
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After a quick search, are they 12x1.25 M12?

Planning on doing some decent ones for now, then get the teal Work ones once I powdercoat the wheels matte black.
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:01 PM   #29
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Numbers explained:

Wheel height and width, 17x7 17x7.5 17x8 etc. the 17 is a 17 inch wheel. The 7, 8 etc is the width.

Offset, +38 +52 etc. Has to do with the hub backspacing. So how fat the hub is in relation to where the wheel spokes and such are. This part is the confusing one.

Tires, 225/40/18. 225 being tire width. 40 being tire height. 18 being wheel size.
Not exactly........
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:02 PM   #30
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:05 PM   #31
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Not exactly........
Explain?

And are you safe to run the 5mm spacers on the rear wheels for the 04 BBS's with stock lugs and lugnuts?
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:15 PM   #32
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Explain?

And are you safe to run the 5mm spacers on the rear wheels for the 04 BBS's with stock lugs and lugnuts?

Don't know about the spacers, maybe someone else can answer. I will however explain what I mean using your example. 225 is the tire's width in millimeters. 18 is obviously the the wheel or rim size. The 40 is the aspect ratio, which refers to sidewall height. However, it's not automatically 40 mm or anything like that. What the aspect ration means is that the 40 means the sidewall height is 40% of the width (225 mm). So in this case, the sidewall height is ~90 mm. Yes, obviously this does kind of go along with tire height, however, it's not quite that simple. For example, a 225/40/18 will be shorter in overall height than a 265/40/18, and the sidewall would be taller too. This is why a 205/50/17, a 225/45/17, and a 225/40/18 are all just about the same height tire overall.
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:27 PM   #33
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How do you guys think some 04 STI BBS's in gold would look on an Ice Silver 13 Sport wagon? I think the contrast of gold on silver would look neat. Then I'd get them powdercoated matte black down the line..

Also, for anyone running aftermarket wheels, what size are our lugnuts? In terms of the stud hole. And what type of lugnuts be used on the STI BBS's? Acorn seat, angled seat?
I've got the ice metallic too. i was thinking about getting gold rims but I think it'd end up looking too "ricey" for a n/a car lol. If i had to choose a color for the ice metallic, it'd be matte black, matte gunmetal, hyper silver, or bronze
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:28 PM   #34
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Don't know about the spacers, maybe someone else can answer. I will however explain what I mean using your example. 225 is the tire's width in millimeters. 18 is obviously the the wheel or rim size. The 40 is the aspect ratio, which refers to sidewall height. However, it's not automatically 40 mm or anything like that. What the aspect ration means is that the 40 means the sidewall height is 40% of the width (225 mm). So in this case, the sidewall height is ~90 mm. Yes, obviously this does kind of go along with tire height, however, it's not quite that simple. For example, a 225/40/18 will be shorter in overall height than a 265/40/18, and the sidewall would be taller too. This is why a 205/50/17, a 225/45/17, and a 225/40/18 are all just about the same height tire overall.
I thought I already corrected this information in the previous post.

About the spacer. Well, I came frome a racing back ground and never modified my daily cars before that. What I learned is that if you just used a spacer without extended studs then when you out the wheels back on, there will be less threads holding the wheel. Its a big no-no in the racing would because of the high stress of wheel. But on a normal daily, I cant see this to be a big problem. Safe is relative. Safe for daily commute. Sure, low stress is demanded from the wheels. Safe for racing? Never, too high stress demand. I wouldnt risk it personally from experience. But again I cant see the danger of running a 5 mm without extended studs on the streets. 10 mm spacers would require longer studs for sure. I think u lose about 3-4 turns with a 5 mm spacer. But I will not be responsible for whatever happens. Always properly torque your lug nuts.
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:28 PM   #35
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I do agree with what you mean, but I was just using generalized example for reference. haha In a general example, the 40 is the tire height. The combo of the width and height does affect the overall profile. But just as a quick example..
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:31 PM   #36
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And yes, that's what I figured on the spacer situation. I was gonna put spacers on the Si, but wanted to wait until I got the extended studs for proper tightness.

So any wheels on this car (unless you run staggered) will be slightly inwards in the rear on this car? Is running staggered safe on an AWD? Not a big stagger, but like 17x7.5 and 17x8?
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:33 PM   #37
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In a general example, the 40 is the tire height.
But it's not! lol
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:35 PM   #38
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lol Considering the guy didn't know what 17x7 meant, do you really think he'll grasp the idea of the tire ratio off the bat?
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:37 PM   #39
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lol Considering the guy didn't know what 17x7 meant, do you really think he'll grasp the idea of the tire ratio off the bat?
He should in how ans2k and I explained it....it's simple english! But trying to confuse him with false information sure isn't gonna help. lol
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:41 PM   #40
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I wouldn't classify it as false information. But ok, you win. Congrats. lol I suppose on my countless amounts of wheels and tires I've bought over time that I've been wrong all along.

Here, taken off an online post:

The tires on a BMW Mini Cooper might be labeled: P195/55R16 85H

P — these tires are for a passenger vehicle. However 'P' denotes P metric size load and speed rating changes for P tire & non-P tires.
195 — the nominal width of the tire is approximately 195 mm at the widest point
55 — indicates that the height of the sidewall of the tire is 55% of the width (107 mm)
R — this is a radial tire
16 — this tire fits 16 in (410 mm) wheels
85 — the load index, a maximum of 515 kg (1,140 lb) per tire in this case
H — the speed index, this means the maximum permitted speed, here 210 km/h (130 mph).
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:46 PM   #41
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And yes, that's what I figured on the spacer situation. I was gonna put spacers on the Si, but wanted to wait until I got the extended studs for proper tightness.

So any wheels on this car (unless you run staggered) will be slightly inwards in the rear on this car? Is running staggered safe on an AWD? Not a big stagger, but like 17x7.5 and 17x8?
If you run the same tires. Like 225/45/17 on all for corners then I dont see why not. I wouldnt run a staggered tire set up like 225/45/17 front and 235/40-45/17 rear. They are not the same height.

Yea "40" is a percentage or ratio. 225/40/18 means that the tire is 225 mm wide, the side wall height is 40% of the width of the tire and it fits on a 18 inch rim. I mean those are the basics. But in the real world those numbers arent exact from manufacturer to manufacturer. For example. The s2000 cam with staggered tires. But when people went to go replace them with the oem size but a different manufacturer. They found out that the front tires were skinnier than other tires with the same size and the rears tires were wider than other tires with the same size.
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:47 PM   #42
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I wouldn't classify it as false information. But ok, you win. Congrats. lol I suppose on my countless amounts of wheels and tires I've bought over time that I've been wrong all along.
If you've been calling it tire height then yes you have lol. This isn't a contest, you asked me to clarify and I did, so don't get all butt-hurt. Buying wheels and tires has nothing to do with the terminology being used so you could have bought a million wheels and tires and that doesn't change the meaning of those numbers.

Straight from http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=46

"Typically following the three digits identifying the tire's Section Width in millimeters is a two-digit number that identifies the tire's profile or aspect ratio.

P225/50R16 91S

The 50 indicates that this tire size's sidewall height (from rim to tread) is 50% of its section width. The measurement is the tire's section height, and also referred to as the tire's series, profile or aspect ratio. The higher the number, the taller the sidewall; the lower the number, the lower the sidewall. We know that this tire size's section width is 225mm and that its section height is 50% of 225mm. By converting the 225mm to inches (225 / 25.4 = 8.86") and multiplying it by 50% (.50) we confirm that this tire size results in a tire section height of 4.43". If this tire were a P225/70R16 size, our calculation would confirm that the size would result in a section height of 6.20", approximately a 1.8-inch taller sidewall."
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:48 PM   #43
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I wouldn't classify it as false information. But ok, you win. Congrats. lol I suppose on my countless amounts of wheels and tires I've bought over time that I've been wrong all along.

Here, taken off an online post:

The tires on a BMW Mini Cooper might be labeled: P195/55R16 85H

P — these tires are for a passenger vehicle. However 'P' denotes P metric size load and speed rating changes for P tire & non-P tires.
195 — the nominal width of the tire is approximately 195 mm at the widest point
55 — indicates that the height of the sidewall of the tire is 55% of the width (107 mm)
R — this is a radial tire
16 — this tire fits 16 in (410 mm) wheels
85 — the load index, a maximum of 515 kg (1,140 lb) per tire in this case
H — the speed index, this means the maximum permitted speed, here 210 km/h (130 mph).
You just proved my point!!!!!
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:50 PM   #44
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I wouldn't classify it as false information. But ok, you win. Congrats. lol I suppose on my countless amounts of wheels and tires I've bought over time that I've been wrong all along.

Here, taken off an online post:

The tires on a BMW Mini Cooper might be labeled: P195/55R16 85H

P — these tires are for a passenger vehicle. However 'P' denotes P metric size load and speed rating changes for P tire & non-P tires.
195 — the nominal width of the tire is approximately 195 mm at the widest point
55 — indicates that the height of the sidewall of the tire is 55% of the width (107 mm)
R — this is a radial tire
16 — this tire fits 16 in (410 mm) wheels
85 — the load index, a maximum of 515 kg (1,140 lb) per tire in this case
H — the speed index, this means the maximum permitted speed, here 210 km/h (130 mph).
Averagewhiteboy, way way too much info for the kid. He just wanted to know what the numbers mean x/y/z. And where did 18 came from. Lol come on. Too technical. Load and speed index. Really? You win.
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:50 PM   #45
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I'm not butt hurt in the least. lol I know how to fit tires on my car just fine.

It's not a contest at all. Just using generalized info. It's no biggie really. Just have him go onto the Tire Rack site like everyone else. haha
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:28 PM   #47
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:28 PM   #48
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Looking for 17-inches
That's what she said.

Sorry, couldn't resist
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:39 PM   #49
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Those turned out hot. Going for something similar.
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Placement of the rear jack stands scares me!! Little close together aren't they??
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