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Old 12-22-2012, 11:50 PM   #51
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i am only stage two ots tune on my 12 but i use launch control at the track at 5k with no issues. I launched it today on the launch control on the street bc it was 30 degrees and felt like a beast today. My old wrx was similarly driven with out any issues. yeah if i had 400 hp i would be worried about the transmission but then i would also be expecting the motor to let go soon too. If you have plans for a larger turbo then i would just get an sti this is my DD and is fast enough for now. I wont go past bolt ons, if i need more power i will prob sell my car and get a NEW sti bc i dont trust used ones. Fact of the matter is its gonna you a lot to make a reliable DD with good power just expect things to go wrong. If you dont do the work a new trans and everything installed will be a lot, then the motor to replace the high powered one that just went will be even more.
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:56 PM   #52
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Buy an STI. It'll be cheaper in the long run, worth more money at the end, and insurance will cover more if it gets totaled.
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Old 12-23-2012, 09:30 PM   #53
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Like Some Of The Guys Say It's Really What U Want . For Example I Have An 05 Wrx Premium With An 06 Sti Engine Swap And A Ppg Trans Cars Making 350 Whp @20 Psi And The Ppg Is Good For 900 Hp I Drove An 06 Sti And It's Noting Compare To My Set Up Even My Handling Is Way Better Than An Sti With The Tien Set Up I Have On The Car .. So Really It's What U Want And How Much U Want To Spend,sti R A Little Expensive ..
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Old 12-23-2012, 09:46 PM   #54
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Up to you. 1 main question though. You installing everything or paying somebody else? If its you then can make it cheaper than selling car and buying a sti. If your paying somebody get a sti as it would be cheaper.

Another thing you have to keep in mind is insurance. Insurance will only give you stock stuff. So lets say you have sti brembo brake and get an accident. they will only cover stock subaru 4pot. Now the price of a new subaru 4pot can of course buy you used brembo, but regardless something to keep in mind.

Again choice is really yours in end though. Just my 2 cents
i did an sti swap to my car and i insured my car with extra insurance in the event it gets totaled i get my money back from the insurance company it only costs me a few $ more a month but i also insured all my mods so im not really loosing too much if my cars totaled
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:53 AM   #55
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I was having your same debate for about a year or so, and in the end i broke down and sold my 04 wrx and bought a 06 STi. I put a lot of time and money into my wrx but I honestly don't regret getting the STi over building my wrx. And most importantly I can still fit my daughters car seat in the back.
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:31 PM   #56
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Hey I know this is old haha but I just went through the same thing and wanted to share what I did. U have a 2002 Wrx wagon, was stage 1 and 2 most of its life. Bought it used for cheap it was meticulously maintained and from Cali no rust etc. I personally like roasting STi's in a wagon which is the main reason I kept it instead of selling for an sti. I went stage whatever at 160k miles on original engine and trans. Blouch 18gxt full supporting mods tgv deletes you name it. Tuned to 19psi barely pushing the turbo and I drove for 17k miles like that w stock 5 speed on an 02 with 160-177k miles. At 178k just. Week or so ago I pulled the 5 speed still in mint conditions no grinds or anything and even goes into 1st while rolling. ( for sale btw ) and did a full jdm v7 sti 6mt swap w brembos brand new brakes pads etc, r180 the full thing and it will be about 5k when I sell the 5mt. Maybe a little less w some other stock parts. That's my cost installer by my shop, not to bad if you ask me. Tranny has like 45k miles or so on it. Yes the gears are shortened being jdm not usdm but doesn't bother me at all and I will be pairing it with the ej207 this summer so w an 8k redline it will not matter. Brembos are night and day compared to my brakes, yours are already good. And the 6mt is so re assuring I drive nicely even w that setup but now when I get on it once in a while I do it with a smile instead of a thumping heart and sweaty palms wondering if anything will break. IMHO it's worth the piece of mind as I plan on keeping the car for a while and did not want to buy someone else's problem. Still going strong w about 180k on the engine although I har now lost count as I swapped in a v7 cluster also
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:38 AM   #57
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Thanks for the input. Still on the fence although im leaning toward 6 speed. Only thing I'm worries about is the car will be slower cause I have tk shift so much. Probably wont really make a difference though.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:24 PM   #58
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Where are you located? I have a 6 speed swap for sale, trans, rear diff, hubs axles all of it

\/ PMing you SenorDuck so we don't clutter this guy's thread \/

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Old 02-21-2013, 12:50 PM   #59
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Where are you located? I have a 6 speed swap for sale, trans, rear diff, hubs axles all of it
Dekalb il? what year trans?
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Old 02-21-2013, 03:08 PM   #60
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Dekalb il? what year trans?
SenorDuck you got the hatch thats always parked by the convo center? Im also from dekalb. Well cortland.
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Old 02-21-2013, 03:11 PM   #61
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SenorDuck you got the hatch thats always parked by the convo center? Im also from dekalb. Well cortland.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:12 PM   #62
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Thanks for the input. Still on the fence although im leaning toward 6 speed. Only thing I'm worries about is the car will be slower cause I have tk shift so much. Probably wont really make a difference though.
Cool. The car should not be slower, In fact mine is like 25% faster w the version 7 gearing. They are a bit shorter then the usdm gears. The car will feel faster for sure. Yes you have to get into 3rd to get to 60... But I personally never really wound out 2nd to get to 65 haha afraid to blow the 5mt w the 6mt you do have to shift sooner and more I actually like it better and since you can hammer gears w out fear you will not notice it trust me haha. The 6mt is worth every penny in my opinion until I can get my hands on like a 2012 sti hatch I'm keeping my v7 wagon hahah. Not a fan of the sedan I snowboard all the time and enjoy the extra space. Let us know what you decide for sure!
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:13 PM   #63
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The other fun thing is with a nice sized dd turbo like my 18gxt etc your like always in boost if you WANT to be w the 6mt. Very fun power on demand due to shorter gears.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:26 AM   #64
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If you like the way your WRX drives and feels then stick with the WRX. Ive been tempted to sell my WRX for a STI. Went in a few and they didnt feel the same. Felt more harsh everywhere and they did rattle a bit. Not saying all STI's do this, just if your WRX is nice and solid it might be better to keep it. Plus you dont know what could go wrong with the STI and how its been driven. Something might go pop and then will cost you alot more $$$
Also with the gearbox some people have been running 500hp on the track and have had no issues. Just depends how you treat it. Some last a short time, some last forever.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:54 PM   #65
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Yeah. I do like my wrx. I want to get an 18g xt and I feel that will be the perfect amount of power for me for dd and keeping things relatively safe but still fun. The problem is I either get the 18g and injectors/pump and keep the 5 speed and hope it doesn't break (probably not as fun cause I'll baby it) or swap in the 6 speed and then wait to save more money for the turbo later. Other thing I considered is that buying a new car if have to pay sales tax which would be over 1000 on an Sti in my price range. So that plus increased insurance premiums for the Sti over my wrx kinda tipped the scales toward keeping the wrx
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:16 PM   #66
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If your are planning on building the sti and replacing most parts too as you would have done also with your wrx, you might as well stay with your wrx and build it more since you are doing the labor anyways. But if you would buy an sti and keep it stock or stage 2 at most you should buy an sti.

Main point: why buy an sti if you would end up changing most of the sti parts.
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Old 02-22-2013, 04:37 PM   #67
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Yeah. I do like my wrx. I want to get an 18g xt and I feel that will be the perfect amount of power for me for dd and keeping things relatively safe but still fun. The problem is I either get the 18g and injectors/pump and keep the 5 speed and hope it doesn't break (probably not as fun cause I'll baby it) or swap in the 6 speed and then wait to save more money for the turbo later. Other thing I considered is that buying a new car if have to pay sales tax which would be over 1000 on an Sti in my price range. So that plus increased insurance premiums for the Sti over my wrx kinda tipped the scales toward keeping the wrx
I love my 18gxt so far it's probably about as big as you can go on the 2.0 and not have too much lag for dd but it is the old 20g, it's a 43 or 44 lb/min turbo, like I said w mine I have a mild tune 19psi I think they reccomend like 20-21psi to really even get this turbo going... I drove for 17k miles w the 5 speed no issues at all the torque is mainly what kills the 5mt and w the 18gxt and 2.0 motor the torque on set is very smooth way less bang immediately vs stock or like a vf series turbo. I did my 6 speed swap w plans of turning boost up to maybe 22-24psi when I go w the ej207. That level would worry me. If it ain't broken dont fix it aka you could definitely do te turbo and keep it for 6 months or a year whatever on the 5mt you don't have to "baby it" just don't launch and do nice pulls in gear take time shifting. Like the person above said sti is a waste if your already planning on upgrading the the turbo on your Wrx, the sti your looking at will have a vf 39 which is a small turbo still.
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:06 PM   #68
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Ps forgot that you have an 06 Wrx w 2.5 so you would really love the torque and power of the 18gxt awesome turbo. You could go 20gxt as well pretty safely IMO because it only like 20 hp difference I believe. Def let us know what you do!!
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:55 PM   #69
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I would never drive an sti, so I did the swap. Less than 3k and 1 day. You only need the trans, shifter, driveline, controler and two stub shafts. If you get the right trans.
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Old 02-22-2013, 08:35 PM   #70
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Because I have an 06 wrx none of the Sti transmissions work with my 3.7 rear end. Would be so much easier if one did
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:17 PM   #71
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Because I have an 06 wrx none of the Sti transmissions work with my 3.7 rear end. Would be so much easier if one did
You want the beefier rear end if possible anyways pretty big difference. I've heard of the 160 blowing after a while if not swapped. Do the swap!! Haha
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:13 AM   #72
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I like my WRX. If I had it to do over, I wouldn't have gotten an STi. I would have gotten a 2001 RS Coup and built from there.

If you plan on keeping it somewhere between stock and Stage 2 or if you see yourself trading it in after a couple years, buy an STi.

If you like to work on your own car and you take pride in knowing every bolt on your car and have no plans to sell it, build the WRX.

Having a modified car gets easier the more work you do yourself. For me, swapping in the 6 speed was as much about the experience and knowledge that I gained as it was about strengthening my drive train.

I never considered selling my car, but I was on the fence about building the 5 speed as opposed to getting the 6. I'm still curious and would like to test drive a straight cut dog box, someday.
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