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Old 01-30-2013, 04:25 PM   #26
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Would it be safe to assume an N/A 7/8/9 have the same rods as their turbo counterparts?
I am not sure, but I know the USA n/as use the same old weaker rod
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:25 PM   #27
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I have a 550 tune as well and yes it's great. I just have been doing a lot of reading and would like an ej207 I think with a bigger rotated turbo. I want to be pushing 350+ whp. You won't get that out of the G/K I'm sure.
So then I'm now hearing that the ver5/6 has the ej207 so I'm wondering if I should pick one of those up instead of looking for a front clip for the same price heh.
Do some research. The 5 and 6 207 are no stronger at ALL than a g/k. Read the reasons why.
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:31 PM   #28
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Do some research. The 5 and 6 207 are no stronger at ALL than a g/k. Read the reasons why.
Do those new rods even fit to a centre thrust crank?
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:51 PM   #29
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all 52mm rods fit 52mm cranks with an ej
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:22 PM   #30
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I'm finding it tough to gather info on the ver5/6 engines. Doesn't seem like there's a lot of swapping going on with those and we're not importing them yet. Though it'd be a long time after we import before anyone probably works on/tunes them.

Thinking the version 8 ej207 would be best then for my 350whp needs, swapped into my 93 impreza L heh.
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:31 PM   #31
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I'm finding it tough to gather info on the ver5/6 engines. Doesn't seem like there's a lot of swapping going on with those and we're not importing them yet. Though it'd be a long time after we import before anyone probably works on/tunes them.

Thinking the version 8 ej207 would be best then for my 350whp needs, swapped into my 93 impreza L heh.
I know what you mean there is very little information about the version 5's and the type r's too....
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:07 PM   #32
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So the v5/6 type ra has forged rods but cast pistons?
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:39 PM   #33
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So the v5/6 type ra has forged rods but cast pistons?
other way around, forged pistons & cast rods.

FYI, I know a thing or two about the v5/6 STi's

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Do some research. The 5 and 6 207 are no stronger at ALL than a g/k. Read the reasons why.
quoted for truth.

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Old 02-07-2013, 09:40 AM   #34
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If I'm not mistaking the only difference between the v5 and v6 207 is that Subaru issued a clutch upgrade but after you've changed it out then I suppose there's no difference at all. And if I'm not mistaking the lack of lubrication in the crank is why the 20K isn't preferred over the 207 because they are somewhat prone to spinning bearings. The v7/8/9 has AVCS which the 5/6 doesn't. iirc

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Old 02-07-2013, 10:45 AM   #35
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AVCS is supposed to be godly haha. And I'm sure tuning for the 7/8/9 is a lot easier because it can be done with a tactrix cable. You can flash the ecu without having to go to an expensive aftermarket.

I think my new goals are to put in an ej20k into my 93 impreza because those engines are damn cheap. Then slap in rob's new tune when it's ready
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:31 PM   #36
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all factory rods are forged..just not pretty..
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:59 PM   #37
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If I'm not mistaking the only difference between the v5 and v6 207 is that Subaru issued a clutch upgrade but after you've changed it out then I suppose there's no difference at all. And if I'm not mistaking the lack of lubrication in the crank is why the 20K isn't preferred over the 207 because they are somewhat prone to spinning bearings. The v7/8/9 has AVCS which the 5/6 doesn't. iirc
More like the K's got a vastly more aggressive tune hence the bearings getting a pounding.
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Old 02-23-2013, 04:26 AM   #38
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I know what you mean there is very little information about the version 5's and the type r's too....
Try this, you will only need to run Google translate: http://drischnie.homeip.net/www.suba...eza.de/STi.htm
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:15 AM   #39
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So the v5/6 type ra has forged rods but cast pistons?
All ver5/6 STi have forged pistons and rods. *EDIT*Ver 5/6/7 ej207's have Forged Pistons, and the Ver 8/9 ej207's have Cast hypereutectic pistons.

I'm in the middle of a ver5 Type-R swap right now. It's the best engine I've ever owned! I like the ver5/6 ej207's, and I'm thinking about putting some Ver9 Heads on my Ver5 Type-R. If you replace the rods and bearings on the ver5/6 207 when you get it, they are bad ass engines.

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Old 04-14-2013, 04:47 AM   #40
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All ver5/6 STi have forged pistons and rods. All ej207 have forged pistons except the ver7, which have the hypereutectic pistons.

I'm in the middle of a ver5 Type-R swap right now. It's the best engine I've ever owned! I like the ver5/6 better than the other ej207, but that's just me. Most will say that it doesn't get better than Ver7, and that's just bcuz of AVCS.
Your information doesn't stack up at all.
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Old 04-14-2013, 04:56 AM   #41
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Your information doesn't stack up at all.
How do you figure? There so many threads on here plus links to brochures on the forged pistons in the Ver5/6 ej207... So what doesn't stack up?
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Old 04-14-2013, 05:28 AM   #42
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How do you figure? There so many threads on here plus links to brochures on the forged pistons in the Ver5/6 ej207... So what doesn't stack up?
The amount of misinformation that floats around the place makes me not take anything for granted. How long was it that people thought that the EJ22T (which is actually designated EJ22B according to my own research and what was stamped on a set of 2.2 turbo HG I had purchased - if I'm wrong, somebody tell me) had forged pistons and that all GC8 engines had CD blocks.
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Old 04-14-2013, 07:36 AM   #43
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All EJ20K STI engines and all EJ207 engines have forged pistons up to 2005. After that they were hyperteutic cast. The stronger rods came in the 2001 and later EJ207 STI engines.
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All ver5/6 STi have forged pistons and rods. All ej207 have forged pistons except the ver7, which have the hypereutectic pistons.

I'm in the middle of a ver5 Type-R swap right now. It's the best engine I've ever owned! I like the ver5/6 better than the other ej207, but that's just me. Most will say that it doesn't get better than Ver7, and that's just bcuz of AVCS.
Nope, just forged pistons on the v5/6

Nope, the v7 had forged pistons also, the ver8 onwards have hypereutectic pistons. I know because i recently replaced my jdm sti ver5 shortblock to a jdm sti ver8 and did a lot of research.

The version 8 jdm bottom end is the toughest of them all, but the v9 had better heads.
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Nope, just forged pistons on the v5/6

Nope, the v7 had forged pistons also, the ver8 onwards have hypereutectic pistons. I know because i recently replaced my jdm sti ver5 shortblock to a jdm sti ver8 and did a lot of research.

The version 8 jdm bottom end is the toughest of them all, but the v9 had better heads.
Sweet, thanx for correcting me. I thought they all did except 7 or 8 having the hypereutectic. My point was that the ver5/6 weren't cast.

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Old 04-14-2013, 08:22 PM   #46
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I did my own Googling and pictures are enough for me.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:05 PM   #48
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dude, you cant ask v7 driveline swaps prices for a super high mileage v4...
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dude, you cant ask v7 driveline swaps prices for a super high mileage v4...
Dude learn in what your getting first ! Your getting a complet car not bits and piece from a Jdm supplier !

Do you even know what it takes to get every single piece of wire
From a Jdm supplier ? With everything like the dash and hubs Knuckles let alone the rare 5mt and that diff and the rare rear hubs not mutalated ?

No you don't but I do because I buy these things every day !


Your v7 comes with motor tranny diff and what options like brakes for 7k + !! Your v7 has been raped out the car and sitting for 2months in a box from people that no nothing about cars taken apart with saw !!

Come talk to me when you do your home work ! I live in the heaven of the Jdm suppliers..


Do your home work
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Yeah, I mean anyone who chops the axles instead of simply popping out the roll pin and undoing the axle nut to remove them, snips wiring instead simply undoing it at the connector, and slashes lines/hoses instead of properly undoing them is so stupid on so many levels. They're not saving themselves any money by taking these "shortcuts", they're just needlessly devaluing their own products.

But unfortunately, that's what you're buying from these suppliers.
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