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Old 03-01-2013, 06:16 PM   #26
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I payed about $500 more to buy a brand new STi, rather than a used one.

It's better when only one owner abuses their car not two
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Old 03-01-2013, 06:58 PM   #27
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I am a sales person at a dealership in AZ and the price listed are high I will agree but I gurantee you that that price is nagotiable, it is not set in stone for instance we have a 2009 sti that was traded in and we gave the person 23k for it and are asking 30k for it now it is stage 2 but I know we can get down in price way down so go back in with a number that is below where you want to be and work up to where you want to be.
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Old 03-01-2013, 07:21 PM   #28
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I am a sales person at a dealership in AZ and the price listed are high I will agree but I gurantee you that that price is nagotiable, it is not set in stone for instance we have a 2009 sti that was traded in and we gave the person 23k for it and are asking 30k for it now it is stage 2 but I know we can get down in price way down so go back in with a number that is below where you want to be and work up to where you want to be.
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Old 03-01-2013, 07:37 PM   #29
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Use the V.I.P. program. When I bought my '09 WRX 5-door new, I got it for a crazy good price. You have to plan ahead though.

http://www.imba.com/membership/indiv...ru-vip-program
This ^^^

I did the same thing through IMBA. You just have to be a member for 6 months before being able to use it. Join now and in 6 months you can get 2% below invoice.
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Old 03-01-2013, 07:49 PM   #30
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I've been looking over WRXs for the last few months, and I'm ultimately discouraged from ever buying one.
1. The used car is market is horrendously over-priced for even a base model.
high demand car means its resale value stays higher. There are other cars that retain their values like that, for instance a nissan Z... or better yet, a well kept fully stock oldschool honda del sol.

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2. Base MSRP for a WRX 26500 (Give or Take), Dealerships are listing prices some 2-4k more, matching Premium and Limited Base MSRP.
shop around. i ordered my STI for 1200 under invoice... meaning i paid 34K for a car listed at MSRP as 39K.

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3. These car do not depreciate, they actually appreciate ( Which is great if you bought one already not so great for someone who wants one.)
actually, it's great for those who buy used, because it means you'll loose very little if you have to resell it.

I bought a brand new motorcycle for 9K and once it leaves the show room floor, it depreciated in value right away. Sold it several years later for 4-5K. My buddy bought a USED motorcycle for 3K. 2 years later, he sold it for... 3K!


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I'm a single 25 year old, who desperately wants an 2011-2012 White Hatch, but for the prices they are asking...I couldn't possibly justify a 450-500 Car payment...
get a better job? i dunno, the financial stuff is all on you but tahnks for sharing.

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And I don't like the body style of the current Impreza...especially rumors that the power plant will be a 2.0 in the next gen WRX and STi.

I don't know if I'll be ever shifting gears in a white Subaru WRX, in the roads of Upstate NY.
well if you dont like teh body style of the impreza, why... are you thinking of a wrx then? i dont get this statement because earlier you basically said "I MUST HAVE ONE" only later to say "BUT I HATE HOW IT LOOKS." ????
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:00 PM   #31
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I got mine for less than what you were quoted. I emailed 3 dealerships and had them fight for my business. I got lots of options too.

Go to the buy thread and see what people are paying. You have to be a smarter shopper. Dont do a VIP program... I got a better deal than some VIP people I've seen post.
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Old 03-02-2013, 12:54 PM   #32
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well if you dont like teh body style of the impreza, why... are you thinking of a wrx then? i dont get this statement because earlier you basically said "I MUST HAVE ONE" only later to say "BUT I HATE HOW IT LOOKS." ????
By saying he hates the "current Impreza", he means the 2012+ Impreza, which looks completely different than the current WRXs.
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Old 03-02-2013, 02:19 PM   #33
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I had originally ordered a base wrx. I talked them down to about $500 under msrp. I couldn't wait for it to come in. I sold both my cars ('06 vw gli and built '89 chrysler conquest) for a down payment. I started search on subaru for dealers along the east coast. I found maybe 4 listed for sale. I emailed them and offered a price about $2000 less than msrp. A couple responded back saying it was sold, another said that they won't sell it for less than msrp because they can sell it for more. One dealer responded back with around $1000 less than msrp. I went and bought it that weekend. I rented a car, drove 700miles, picked up the car and drove 700 back. So I ended up with with a premium for what I was going to pay for a base.
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Old 03-02-2013, 05:04 PM   #34
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I've been looking over WRXs for the last few months, and I'm ultimately discouraged from ever buying one.
1. The used car is market is horrendously over-priced for even a base model.
2. Base MSRP for a WRX 26500 (Give or Take), Dealerships are listing prices some 2-4k more, matching Premium and Limited Base MSRP.
3. These car do not depreciate, they actually appreciate ( Which is great if you bought one already not so great for someone who wants one.)

I'm a single 25 year old, who desperately wants an 2011-2012 White Hatch, but for the prices they are asking...I couldn't possibly justify a 450-500 Car payment...

And I don't like the body style of the current Impreza...especially rumors that the power plant will be a 2.0 in the next gen WRX and STi.

I don't know if I'll be ever shifting gears in a white Subaru WRX, in the roads of Upstate NY.
You should check out Van Bortel's inventory. They're up near Rochester and have a new white 5-sp manual 2013 WRX Hatch in stock with few accessories added on. They're offering a $1,235 discount off MSRP and the manufacturer is offering 2.9% APR financing (monthly payment less than $400?). You could be driving that car next week.

And when the time comes to sell, it could be worth more than you paid, given that by then new WRXs will only be available with a wimpy 2.0L engine.

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Old 03-02-2013, 05:17 PM   #35
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You should check out Van Bortel's inventory. They're up near Rochester and have a new white 5-sp manual 2013 WRX Hatch in stock with few accessories added on. They're offering a $1,235 discount off MSRP and the manufacturer is offering 2.9% APR financing (monthly payment ~$408). You could be driving that car next week.

And by the time you sell it, it'll be worth more than you paid, given that by then new WRXs will only be available with a wimpy 2.0L engine.
Don't underestimate the new 2.0L, there's lots of good tech going into it. There will be less lag and more top end, plus direct injection will make more power.
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Old 03-02-2013, 06:08 PM   #36
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And when the time comes to sell, it could be worth more than you paid, given that by then new WRXs will only be available with a wimpy 2.0L engine.
Yeah cuz in America all we care about is displacement.

Please.

And a Subaru does not and will never appreciate in value.
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:12 PM   #37
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Hey op... I was in the same EXACT situation!!!! Except you posted. I went ahead and bought a 2013. Couldn't be happier!
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:26 PM   #38
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Try out pre negotiated prices if your having an issue getting the price down.

https://amexnetwork.truecar.com/main.html
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Old 03-02-2013, 08:20 PM   #39
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Dont do a VIP program... I got a better deal than some VIP people I've seen post.
That's not entirely good advice. It's a great way to establish the price of the new vehicle separate from any possible trade in value. Dealers love to play games with numbers. When I bought my '09 WRX 5-door premium new, there was no haggling over the price because it was well below invoice with the V.I.P pricing. I did, however, work them pretty damn good for my trade and threatened to walk out twice before ending up with a ridiculous deal. I waited until the end of the month and went in late in the day when they were getting ready to close. That added pressure on them works to your advantage.
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:36 AM   #40
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I would say take your time and wait until the right car comes along, you will be happy you did. I was looking at many cars, but a WRX with what I wanted was outside my price range. (with the costs of getting tint, better audio, etc)

I kept looking around for about 3 months.

Then one morning looking on craigslist I see a 2011 Pearl Hatch WRX (premium). I was the first to call, test drove it, and bought it the same day.

I got it for 25K, 10,5XX miles on it. Came with snow tires, extra rims, and an access port. Clean title and no damage. (dude lost his job, felt bad for him)

So keep looking, and look every day. Don't be afraid to call dealerships in your entire state. Anything inside a days drive.
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:56 AM   #41
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I've been looking over WRXs for the last few months, and I'm ultimately discouraged from ever buying one.
1. The used car is market is horrendously over-priced for even a base model.
2. Base MSRP for a WRX 26500 (Give or Take), Dealerships are listing prices some 2-4k more, matching Premium and Limited Base MSRP.
3. These car do not depreciate, they actually appreciate ( Which is great if you bought one already not so great for someone who wants one.)

I'm a single 25 year old, who desperately wants an 2011-2012 White Hatch, but for the prices they are asking...I couldn't possibly justify a 450-500 Car payment...

And I don't like the body style of the current Impreza...especially rumors that the power plant will be a 2.0 in the next gen WRX and STi.

I don't know if I'll be ever shifting gears in a white Subaru WRX, in the roads of Upstate NY.
Check it out, I just got here used to own a 03 Wrx, but couldnt bring it, I just came to NY (watertown) not too long ago, and with plenty of research I found a 02 Wrx for 4K paid for it outright cash,

Now depending on your financial and credit situation you might wanna just find an older model for cheaper used, THEN fix it up a bit and use it for a trade-in for what you want.
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:57 AM   #42
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Check it out, I just got here used to own a 03 Wrx, but couldnt bring it, I just came to NY (watertown) not too long ago, and with plenty of research I found a 02 Wrx for 4K paid for it outright cash,

Now depending on your financial and credit situation you might wanna just find an older model for cheaper used, THEN fix it up a bit and use it for a trade-in for what you want.

not to mention it was 4 Hours away, but I still went and got that joker.
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Old 03-03-2013, 07:00 AM   #43
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Yeah cuz in America all we care about is displacement.

Please.

And a Subaru does not and will never appreciate in value.

June 2007 my '88 Justy was listed as being worth $350 on KBB, and Edmunds and I forgot the last one. August of 2008 I checked again as I was approached by a fellow firefighter about buying it. I said it would be better for me to "just give it to you", so I got on to give him a laugh. It was valued at $1500. Your statement is false.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:41 AM   #44
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And a Subaru does not and will never appreciate in value.
Priced a Subaru 360 lately?
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Old 03-03-2013, 07:08 PM   #45
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And a Subaru does not and will never appreciate in value.
Yeah, totally, I mean that completely explains why WRX and STI models are going (selling) used for more than new.
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:50 PM   #46
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Well it's a good thing we don't care whether or not you buy it. If you want to bitch then call SoA. You can't expect something exactly what you want when you're not willing to pay for it. Gtfoh

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Old 03-03-2013, 11:52 PM   #47
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^ agreed

the OP really comes off like a whiner .. "I can't afford a car I don't even really like and i don't like the other cars either .. whaa"
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:08 PM   #48
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June 2007 my '88 Justy was listed as being worth $350 on KBB, and Edmunds and I forgot the last one. August of 2008 I checked again as I was approached by a fellow firefighter about buying it. I said it would be better for me to "just give it to you", so I got on to give him a laugh. It was valued at $1500. Your statement is false.
I love it then you guys pull things out of context.

We're talking current cars in this thread.

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Yeah, totally, I mean that completely explains why WRX and STI models are going (selling) used for more than new.
Asking price and selling price are completely different things. Those cars aren't selling for that much.
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:27 PM   #49
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I went to test drive a 2013 wrx tonight, dealer said no. Bow am I supposed to figure out if I like the car or not?
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:42 PM   #50
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I went to test drive a 2013 wrx tonight, dealer said no. Bow am I supposed to figure out if I like the car or not?
Are you 16 or something? I guess I don't understand why they would do that unless you were young.
Go to a local meet and maybe someone will have a 11+ wrx for you to get a ride in. No guarantees it will be stock though.
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