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Old 03-05-2013, 03:38 PM   #16476
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Did you reinstall that foam/rubber pad over the shifter?
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Old 03-05-2013, 04:18 PM   #16477
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Did you reinstall that foam/rubber pad over the shifter?
yes, it is a noise dampener, and i have no fitment issues

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Old 03-06-2013, 05:36 AM   #16478
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Guys, question for you..

So, today my area got hit with some of the snow attacking the north east. It was a very fat, thick snow. In terms of traction, the car was amazing. Never slipped or hesitated once. However, I did have two things I wanted to ask. Not really "concerns", but figured I'd ask..

1) The ABS on this car seems to be super touchy. Never noticed it before. It may have been the overly chunky snow, and/or the iffy-at-best stock Yoko's. But the car kept wanting to jut to a stop.

2) Seeing an opportunity, I pulled into an open parking lot (no one around, 2:30am..lol), tapped the traction off button, and attempted to fling the car around a few times. If I tried to mostly finagle it using the throttle, the car kept trying to self-countersteer. If I pulled the e-brake and let it carry it's self around, it'd slide, but then again self countersteer. This, again, was with the traction button pressed to off. Is this "normal"? I mean, of course the car being used for normal conditions and situations should be driving straight and not swinging around.. But I figured that by turning it off, most of the nanny stuff should be off. It was rather disappointing.

Again, not sure if it was just this thick snow or what. I've done a couple tiny swing arounds before and it's worked good. But trying to actually do it tonight didn't work out too well. Is there some kind of extra traction control thing or variation of VSC I'm missing? I'm used to poking the VSC button in my Si and it letting me do what I want..

In addition, is the touchy ABS mostly just the tires? I realize they're iffy tires, and narrow at that. Didn't really think snows are necessary in these cars for a couple inches of fat snow. lol Would even just a wider, better all season help?

For reference, the car is a 13 Sport with CVT and 2k on the clock, with stock tires.
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Old 03-06-2013, 06:33 AM   #16479
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Guys, question for you..

So, today my area got hit with some of the snow attacking the north east. It was a very fat, thick snow. In terms of traction, the car was amazing. Never slipped or hesitated once. However, I did have two things I wanted to ask. Not really "concerns", but figured I'd ask..

1) The ABS on this car seems to be super touchy. Never noticed it before. It may have been the overly chunky snow, and/or the iffy-at-best stock Yoko's. But the car kept wanting to jut to a stop.

2) Seeing an opportunity, I pulled into an open parking lot (no one around, 2:30am..lol), tapped the traction off button, and attempted to fling the car around a few times. If I tried to mostly finagle it using the throttle, the car kept trying to self-countersteer. If I pulled the e-brake and let it carry it's self around, it'd slide, but then again self countersteer. This, again, was with the traction button pressed to off. Is this "normal"? I mean, of course the car being used for normal conditions and situations should be driving straight and not swinging around.. But I figured that by turning it off, most of the nanny stuff should be off. It was rather disappointing.

Again, not sure if it was just this thick snow or what. I've done a couple tiny swing arounds before and it's worked good. But trying to actually do it tonight didn't work out too well. Is there some kind of extra traction control thing or variation of VSC I'm missing? I'm used to poking the VSC button in my Si and it letting me do what I want..

In addition, is the touchy ABS mostly just the tires? I realize they're iffy tires, and narrow at that. Didn't really think snows are necessary in these cars for a couple inches of fat snow. lol Would even just a wider, better all season help?

For reference, the car is a 13 Sport with CVT and 2k on the clock, with stock tires.
1) there is an entire thread discussing these issues:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2442679

2) ABS activates when the car senses a wheel is locked up while you are moving, if the OEM tires don't have good traction, it will cause it to activate more often.

3) VSC is the primary topic of the other thread

4) All other things being equal, wider tires are worse in the snow than narrower tires. They make snow shoes wide for a reason.

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Old 03-06-2013, 07:26 AM   #16480
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Yes the traction control is never fully off. Subaru doesn't trust us. It is a rather buzz kill.
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:35 AM   #16481
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Yes the traction control is never fully off. Subaru doesn't trust us. It is a rather buzz kill.
Learn how to drift with throttle control only
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:41 AM   #16482
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Guys, question for you..

So, today my area got hit with some of the snow attacking the north east. It was a very fat, thick snow. In terms of traction, the car was amazing. Never slipped or hesitated once. However, I did have two things I wanted to ask. Not really "concerns", but figured I'd ask..

1) The ABS on this car seems to be super touchy. Never noticed it before. It may have been the overly chunky snow, and/or the iffy-at-best stock Yoko's. But the car kept wanting to jut to a stop.

2) Seeing an opportunity, I pulled into an open parking lot (no one around, 2:30am..lol), tapped the traction off button, and attempted to fling the car around a few times. If I tried to mostly finagle it using the throttle, the car kept trying to self-countersteer. If I pulled the e-brake and let it carry it's self around, it'd slide, but then again self countersteer. This, again, was with the traction button pressed to off. Is this "normal"? I mean, of course the car being used for normal conditions and situations should be driving straight and not swinging around.. But I figured that by turning it off, most of the nanny stuff should be off. It was rather disappointing.

Again, not sure if it was just this thick snow or what. I've done a couple tiny swing arounds before and it's worked good. But trying to actually do it tonight didn't work out too well. Is there some kind of extra traction control thing or variation of VSC I'm missing? I'm used to poking the VSC button in my Si and it letting me do what I want..

In addition, is the touchy ABS mostly just the tires? I realize they're iffy tires, and narrow at that. Didn't really think snows are necessary in these cars for a couple inches of fat snow. lol Would even just a wider, better all season help?

For reference, the car is a 13 Sport with CVT and 2k on the clock, with stock tires.
Get the 5 speed tranny, downshift to 2nd, rev high...enjoy
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:16 AM   #16483
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As Zeeper mentioned, even with traction control off, vehicle stability control will still be active. I was also disappointed by that system recently.

After a big snow fall, I went into a corner and planned to slide around it. YEARS of driving had me prepared for what would happen, but before I could enjoy myself, the computers kicked in and ABRUPTLY straightened out the car. I was shocked at how effective it was, but also completely bummed.
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:26 AM   #16484
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Learn how to drift with throttle control only
I can. My dad raced midgets when I was a kid so I've been power sliding everything I could since about age 12. This car just does not let you push the envelope at all. I can get some nice long easy drifts out of it but nothing tight or technical. Also it is kinda disappointing to own an awd car but not be able to flatspin it. All I'm saying is when the button is off, I wish it was actually off.
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:44 AM   #16485
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I can. My dad raced midgets when I was a kid so I've been power sliding everything I could since about age 12. This car just does not let you push the envelope at all. I can get some nice long easy drifts out of it but nothing tight or technical. Also it is kinda disappointing to own an awd car but not be able to flatspin it. All I'm saying is when the button is off, I wish it was actually off.
Do you have the CVT or 5 speed? Word on the street is that the 5 speed lets you have more fun. I found that with the traction control "off" and sufficient throttle, I could slide it around pretty well.
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:28 AM   #16486
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Can somebody clarify if this is the correct 19mm STI RSB that will fit?

http://www.subarugenuineparts.com/pr...oducts_id=1690
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:39 AM   #16487
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Can somebody clarify if this is the correct 19mm STI RSB that will fit?

http://www.subarugenuineparts.com/pr...oducts_id=1690
Yes, you might be able to find cheaper prices though
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:54 AM   #16488
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Mod it.
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:22 AM   #16489
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Do you have the CVT or 5 speed? Word on the street is that the 5 speed lets you have more fun. I found that with the traction control "off" and sufficient throttle, I could slide it around pretty well.
I have a 5 speed. I'd hate to see the cvt fun factor.
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:23 AM   #16490
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Get the 5 speed tranny, downshift to 2nd, rev high...enjoy
You can put the cvt into manual mode and it wont shift up (unless you hit redline supposedly)
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:04 PM   #16491
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sway bars and end links in one package and cheaper

https://www.subaruonlineparts.com/pr...oducts_id=1267
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:36 PM   #16492
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What kind of tire pressure are you guys running? Manufacturer recommended or a different number?
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:40 PM   #16493
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Can somebody clarify if this is the correct 19mm STI RSB that will fit?

http://www.subarugenuineparts.com/pr...oducts_id=1690
That's the one.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:53 PM   #16494
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I'll look into those threads, but thanks for the responses guys. haha Damn superior traction and nanny controlled cars.. : (
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:56 PM   #16495
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What kind of tire pressure are you guys running? Manufacturer recommended or a different number?
I run a couple psi over. like 36-38 all around. Mostly for mpgs but also to make sure it at least at recc. psi if some leaks out over time. I dont see a difference either way like some others do.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:56 PM   #16496
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sway bars and end links in one package and cheaper

https://www.subaruonlineparts.com/pr...oducts_id=1267
Are you sure those are compatible? I know the STI RSB is compatible, but I don't know about the Outback RSB.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:59 PM   #16497
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Are you sure those are compatible? I know the STI RSB is compatible, but I don't know about the Outback RSB.
I think they're the same part number
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Old 03-06-2013, 01:09 PM   #16498
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Part Number(s): 20451FG020 sway bar
20464FG020 bushings qty2

as Angelus911 stated its the same part number. Outback drivers discovered the sti rear sway bar made their ride handle better so this is an old but still valuable mod, cheaper as a package than buying individually
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:11 PM   #16499
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Part Number(s): 20451FG020 sway bar
20464FG020 bushings qty2

as Angelus911 stated its the same part number. Outback drivers discovered the sti rear sway bar made their ride handle better so this is an old but still valuable mod, cheaper as a package than buying individually
This should bolt up on my base model with no problems right?
If yes this is definitely gonna be my next mod.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:18 PM   #16500
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This should bolt up on my base model with no problems right?
If yes this is definitely gonna be my next mod.
I believe you will also need end links, since your base Impreza has no RSB at all.

For those of us upgrading a 16 mm RSB to a 19 mm RSB, we can continue to use our existing end links, and just replace the bar and bushings. But the base Impreza has no bar, and therefore has no end links.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong about this.
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