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Old 03-12-2013, 05:59 PM   #26
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This thread makes my head hurt.
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:12 PM   #27
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I have to ask why do ppl keep bringing cars back to dealerships and why does it always end with "dealer overfilled my engine with oil" NEVER EVER GO BACK seriously how much damage must they inflict on your car before you call it quits.

just my 2 cents

one word...Warranty

I don't bring mine to the dealership anymore for routine maintenance as my dealership has done the fair share of stupid things (forgot to put rubber gommets back in glove box, left the undercarriage clips dangling on the splash guard not connected to the subframe and the one rear blot completely missing, etc...)

But I do agree, dealerships are full of idiots!
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:00 PM   #28
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2 quarts overfilled....?!?
what the actual ****
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:30 PM   #29
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100% IRRELEVANT....you should have called SOA and told them that the people working at the dealership were selling you the wrong parts even after you pointed it out to them

this keeps this on the radar of SOA and they can apply pressure to the dealer to fix the issue
You might as well piss into the wind. SOA will not care because it is not a warranty concern. What they WILL tell you is it is a dealership issue and to handle it with the General Manager,Fixed Operations Director and Parts Manager.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:21 PM   #30
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I drained my oil and left a half a quart in my engine. Before when I had it filled all the way I only ran a low 12 second quarter mile pass. With only a half quart in I ran high 9's. Subaru is stupid and they should realize they don't need the extra 4 quarts. I'm going to call SOA and report my findings.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:34 PM   #31
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You might as well piss into the wind. SOA will not care because it is not a warranty concern. What they WILL tell you is it is a dealership issue and to handle it with the General Manager,Fixed Operations Director and Parts Manager.

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Sad to see quite a few Subaru dealers sucking.
I'm a parts manager for a subaru dealer.. sometimes people make mistakes. The person doing your oil change is probably a lube tech being paid $8.95an hr. I've seen plenty of cars coming from other local places with blown engines. Few months ago Midas left a drain plug loose & blew a new forester up. They sued & contracted STS to fix the car.. STS did not clean the pickup tube blowing the new motor.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:46 PM   #32
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But I do agree, dealerships are full of idiots!
hey not ALL dealerships are full of idiots :P

the dealer that I work for has finally cut all of the terrible people out of service for the Subaru end, no more half-ass techs and a new service manager.

I'm not trying to convince anyone to do dealer service, but I can say at least our shop does quality work!

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Old 03-12-2013, 09:50 PM   #33
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hey not ALL dealerships are full of idiots :P

the dealer that I work for has finally cut all of the terrible people out of service for the Subaru end, no more half-ass techs and a new service manager.

I'm not trying to convince anyone to do dealer service, but I can say at least our shop does quality work!

unfortunately, stealerships as so they say get a bad rap. It's really on a dealer to dealer basis. My dealer will bend over backwards for you as long as your not an ass.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:59 PM   #34
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I drained my oil and left a half a quart in my engine. Before when I had it filled all the way I only ran a low 12 second quarter mile pass. With only a half quart in I ran high 9's. Subaru is stupid and they should realize they don't need the extra 4 quarts. I'm going to call SOA and report my findings.
Please let that be sarcasm!
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:45 PM   #35
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I drained my oil and left a half a quart in my engine. Before when I had it filled all the way I only ran a low 12 second quarter mile pass. With only a half quart in I ran high 9's. Subaru is stupid and they should realize they don't need the extra 4 quarts. I'm going to call SOA and report my findings.
so thats what ive been doing wrong!
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:27 AM   #36
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Think how fast he could run if he drained all of it out!
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Old 03-13-2013, 09:08 PM   #37
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I'm going to call SOA and report my findings.
I'll be anxiously awaiting the response from this.
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Old 03-13-2013, 09:36 PM   #38
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Yea sorry I thought sarcasm would come through on that one. I know its not replacing my dipstick.

I was able to detect it! Lol it was quite obvious to me, there are cases where it is not so apparent. This isn't the case.

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dont know about this hydro lock statement though i thought that was when your intake filter gets a bunch of water in it and freezes the engine

It doesn't necessarily have to be your air filter getting soaked. Hydrolock just means that water has entered your sealed engine block some how, the most idealistic and common approach would be through the intake which is feeding your car with oxygen for combustion.

As for the oil being overfilled by 2 quarts...... what oil did they "say" they used on your car? Or was that not mentioned at all?

For regular oil changes, they just use the shop line, which is connected to a big reservoir of oil they refill. Depends on the dealership, but the past one I have worked in just used penzoil. And only Subaru OEM syn Oil on the brand new 2011+ turbo'd engines, or if by requested. At that dealership location, some techs have told me that the filling gun at their station is not calibrated right and is off on the meter. So it is not reading exactly like it says on the meter. That can be one of the cases here, where they just used the shop's oil and had a faulty meter on their oil filling gun. If that is the case, then the tech obviously have overlooked it and did not check proper dipstick level before dropping the car and going for a short test drive. If that is also the case, then that means they have overfilled plenty of subaru's or cars they have worked on because of that faulty problem.


If it isn't that problem, then the tech cannot even do a simple oil change by reading the manual for the specific engine being worked on.


Another story, my nephew brought his suby to a dealership to do an oil change (he doesn't have time or space at home, its one of those residential areas that do not permit mechanical work in the lot) he was to only the pay the labor, he provided the oil filter and oil. He got his car back WITH the oil be brought in, on his seat untouched, and was not charged for it. So he just went on his way. I hope they used the right oil.
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:41 PM   #39
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Yea sorry I thought sarcasm would come through on that one. I know its not replacing my dipstick.
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:43 PM   #40
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I drained my oil and left a half a quart in my engine. Before when I had it filled all the way I only ran a low 12 second quarter mile pass. With only a half quart in I ran high 9's. Subaru is stupid and they should realize they don't need the extra 4 quarts. I'm going to call SOA and report my findings.
I drained my oil completely and ran 6.2!

That's about as long as it ran, though. I had to push the car through the lights.
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:47 PM   #41
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The car was definitely faster after the excess oil was drained out
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and it shifts smoother for sure too definitely seems as though this added load on the crank theory is plausible at this point.
I bet the chicks all started wanting to ride with you as well.

I'm beginning to think the biggest issue with your car is the loose nut behind the wheel.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:32 PM   #42
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I don't know how much extra oil the OP had in his motor but all guys giving him crap do realize that if you keep filling your crankcase with oil the oil will submerge the crank and create serious widnage issues right? Pumping air is a lot easier than pumping viscous oil and could manifest itself as a power loss. Windage trays won't help if the oil level is above the tray ya know.
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I don't know how much extra oil the OP had in his motor but all guys giving him crap do realize that if you keep filling your crankcase with oil the oil will submerge the crank and create serious windage issues right? Pumping air is a lot easier than pumping viscous oil and could manifest itself as a power loss. Windage trays won't help if the oil level is above the tray ya know.
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Old 03-15-2013, 05:11 AM   #44
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I don't know how much extra oil the OP had in his motor but all guys giving him crap do realize that if you keep filling your crankcase with oil the oil will submerge the crank and create serious windage issues right? Pumping air is a lot easier than pumping viscous oil and could manifest itself as a power loss. Windage trays won't help if the oil level is above the tray ya know.
+1

Question as well. Since i dont really know the layout inside the block but couldnt oil if high enough get into the bores behind the pistons as well or no?
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