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Old 10-31-2012, 09:21 PM   #76
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I wasn't going to bring up aftermarket NAV units only because a LOT of people on here believe in full warranty for everything that comes with their new car. I'm a Garmin guy, myself, and believe in the versatility of portable navigation. There are also better head units for the stereo with navigation equal to or exceeding what Subaru offers for that same $1k.
I suggested that first, and it was off the table before we got to the point of "order" or "get it shipped". Even had the research with me on a nice Kenwood unit with Garmin maps built in. Garmin is a local to KC--they make good stuff and I've owned a Nuvi for several years. But, that option did not have a factory warranty, and she wasn't prepared to go for that. The bottom line is that it's her car, and she has to feel good about it. Nothing worse than buyer's remorse on a big ticket item like a car.

We should take a road trip to Alaska in my estate just because. That would be the perfect thing to push it over 200k miles in epic fashion.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:26 PM   #77
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All manufacturers offer extended warranties that top out at 100k-120k miles, and six to eight years. Get the one that fits your driving habits.
KC was not calculating the cost of an extended warranty into his equation. That would negate the fuel cost savings of going with the car with the potentially riskier reliability.
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Old 10-31-2012, 11:47 PM   #78
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I wasn't going to bring up aftermarket NAV units only because a LOT of people on here believe in full warranty for everything that comes with their new car. I'm a Garmin guy, myself, and believe in the versatility of portable navigation. There are also better head units for the stereo with navigation equal to or exceeding what Subaru offers for that same $1k.

There are those of us that will go that extra effort to save some money on the final price of the car. Then there are those of us that are married.

I agree. Never understood an overpriced built in GPS vs portable that you could take with you when you are on vacation with a rental car. Never made sense to me.

If it is the warranty, buy it with a CC that doubles the manufacturer warranty.
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:48 AM   #79
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You know what is better than built in nav as well? Just buy a cell phone clip mount for one of your air vents and bam, your phone is now a "built in nav" ;-).

I think the only thing against a portable unit / using your phone is it isn't streamlined and looks a bit obnoxious in a "luxury" car. I don't have a problem with it in my WRX or soon STi.
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:39 PM   #80
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I've been wanting a WRX since 2002, but my current car was still running great. After buying my wife's Subaru Forester right during the Japan tsunami, we had to deal with not getting our specific color and option choice. In the end it was actually better since the trim level was enough for our needs.

Now I'm deciding on a WRX but not happy to hear the news of the shortage. I guess on the plus side, my local dealer has an open policy to cancel the order but four months is a long time.

The plus side is I can really give it a second (triple?) thought on what options I really want and is the jump to the STi worth is.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:19 PM   #81
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You know what is better than built in nav as well? Just buy a cell phone clip mount for one of your air vents and bam, your phone is now a "built in nav" ;-).

I think the only thing against a portable unit / using your phone is it isn't streamlined and looks a bit obnoxious in a "luxury" car. I don't have a problem with it in my WRX or soon STi.
It's small, and drains the battery.

That said, there's the Pioneer AppRadio2.



A bigger interface for your phone. You essentially plug in a supported phone to it and it now is your interface to the phone while driving.

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Old 11-01-2012, 02:09 PM   #82
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I've been wanting a WRX since 2002, but my current car was still running great. After buying my wife's Subaru Forester right during the Japan tsunami, we had to deal with not getting our specific color and option choice. In the end it was actually better since the trim level was enough for our needs.

Now I'm deciding on a WRX but not happy to hear the news of the shortage. I guess on the plus side, my local dealer has an open policy to cancel the order but four months is a long time.

The plus side is I can really give it a second (triple?) thought on what options I really want and is the jump to the STi worth is.
4 months isn't even that bad in the grand scheme of things. At least for me, I can see myself keeping my 2013 STi for 10 years easily. The fact that there is a shortage of them also does nothing but help increase the value of the car over the years. I've seen people sell their 2011 STis recently for as much as they paid for it; stealerships will even turn around and sell 2011 WRX/STi for as much as ordering a new one would cost. That alone makes me ok with waiting as it truly is a special car.

I can see being impatient if you're driving a time bomb that is about to break down, but it's unreasonable to want a "rare" car right away. Now, if you're waiting 4 months on a legacy then that's a pretty crappy situation. To me, that's an every day car that doesn't really deserve the wait time (granted, it is the only AWD luxury car at that price point IIRC). If it's the car you want though, you really have to be patient.

The wait will also help you against any buyers remorse. I have a bit of that issue when I go to make a big purchase like a car I get really excited and tend to get tunnel vision in excitement; and then a little bit later get lots of regret for making an impulse decision. At least with the 4 month wait, if a month after you place your order you still want the car, you know you're hooked for life .

As for the WRX vs. STi decision, good luck! I knew I wanted the STi, but I'd be lieing if I didn't say that I was seriously considering just getting a base WRX to save $9k. As I mentioned though, a car like the STi is a life choice, so might as well be completely satisfied . The main thing I considered was the transmission and how much it would be to swap the WRX transmission with an STi. Doing that alone puts the two pretty close together in terms of price. If you could careless about the 5-speed vs. 6-speed, then the WRX will satisfy you completely. Again, good luck .
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Old 11-01-2012, 02:13 PM   #83
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It's small, and drains the battery.

That said, there's the Pioneer AppRadio2.



A bigger interface for your phone. You essentially plug in a supported phone to it and it now is your interface to the phone while driving.

--kC
I'm glad they're finally coming out with products like this, although I still hate how limited they are with their android support.

Do you know if that system works as a standalone as well? Or is it just an interface for your phone? You could just do a custom install with a tablet for half the price .

EDIT: http://www.ebay.com/itm/PIONEER-SPH-...item564ddcd593 , can get it refurbished for half the price :P.
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Old 11-01-2012, 02:30 PM   #84
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I believe the radio only works in stand-alone mode without a phone paired to it.

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Old 11-01-2012, 08:31 PM   #85
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KC was not calculating the cost of an extended warranty into his equation. That would negate the fuel cost savings of going with the car with the potentially riskier reliability.
I would get the extended warranty with a new Subaru as well. I won't drive a car out of warranty.
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:22 PM   #86
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I would get the extended warranty with a new Subaru as well. I won't drive a car out of warranty.
OK. Fair enough.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:04 PM   #87
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Quick follow up. They told us the car would not be in until the end of January--we picked it up at the dealer on 3 December.

For us, at least, the "big wait" was more talk than reality. I am glad we got the car sooner, but I wonder about the impact on dealers and buyers. Sales appear to be fine (see other threads) but this is the kind of thing that can convince a person to walk down the street and buy a car from someone else.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:15 PM   #88
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Quick follow up. They told us the car would not be in until the end of January--we picked it up at the dealer on 3 December.

For us, at least, the "big wait" was more talk than reality. I am glad we got the car sooner, but I wonder about the impact on dealers and buyers. Sales appear to be fine (see other threads) but this is the kind of thing that can convince a person to walk down the street and buy a car from someone else.

Under promise and over deliver is easier than the opposite. Some may take that long and some won't. They are just covering their bases.
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:57 PM   #89
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Under promise and over deliver is easier than the opposite. Some may take that long and some won't. They are just covering their bases.
Was just coming in to say this. I hear it ALL the time with our dealership. When the car arrives sooner than promised, EVERY person is so happy that it doesn't matter.

With me, having preordered a car before and been a sales guy that's had to use the same tactic, I wasn't surprised when my BRZ arrive first week of October, even though it was promised to be November (so glad it wasn't). Pretty much same with my 2011 WRX: Ordered mid-July, promised mid-September, arrived August 24th.

Congrats regardless, Monkey_Boy!
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Old 03-16-2013, 08:31 AM   #90
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I just helped my daughter obtain her 2013 Legacy Sport. She was VERY attamit about betting a Black one, but they seem to be the least common. Local Subaru dealer though had one coming that was allocated to them, and she bought it sight unseen and still got $1500 off. I will say Subaru lots are sparse with vehicles unless you want an Outback.

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