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Old 03-17-2013, 09:52 AM   #26
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HB 657 was heard in committee this past Tuesday. You can watch the archived hearing (if you have Real audio/video ).

http://www.house.state.tx.us/video-a...am=13031208470

Fast forward to about 1 hour and 16 minutes into the video, and that is where they start discussion on HB 657.

FYI, it was left pending in committee. It will probably be voted on this coming Tuesday in the next committee meeting. It looks like it WILL get out of the committee with a majority voting for it. At least, I am going by their comments during the discussion. It will save the state $6 million.

Please remember to contact your representative in the House asking for their support of HB 657. Click here for the link that will tell you who your representative is.
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Old 03-21-2013, 01:19 PM   #27
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Some updated information about HB 657. CN: This would save the state from $6 million to $6.4 million. myplates.com is printing money, damn. Less than $2 to make a plate. Awesome monopoly.

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LEGISLATIVE BUDGET BOARD
Austin, Texas

FISCAL NOTE, 83RD LEGISLATIVE REGULAR SESSION

March 11, 2013

TO:
Honorable Larry Phillips, Chair, House Committee On Transportation

FROM:
Ursula Parks, Director, Legislative Budget Board

IN RE:
HB657 by Lavender (Relating to the number of license plates to be issued for and displayed on motor vehicles.), As Introduced

Estimated Two-year Net Impact to General Revenue Related Funds for HB657, As Introduced: an impact of $0 through the biennium ending August 31, 2015.

The bill would make no appropriation but could provide the legal basis for an appropriation of funds to implement the provisions of the bill.

General Revenue-Related Funds, Five-Year Impact:

Fiscal Year Probable Net Positive/(Negative) Impact to General Revenue Related Funds
2014 $0
2015 $0
2016 $0
2017 $0
2018 $0

All Funds, Five-Year Impact:

Fiscal Year Probable Savings/(Cost) from
State Highway Fund
6
2014 $6,091,756
2015 $6,183,132
2016 $6,275,879
2017 $6,370,018
2018 $6,465,568

Fiscal Analysis

The bill would amend the Transportation Cod to require the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) to issue only one license plate for attachment at the rear of the vehicle for which the plate is issued. The bill would specify that any provision of the Transportation Code that relates to the issuance or display of "license plates," "plates," or a "set of plates," means only one license plate.

The bill would take effect on September 1, 2013.

Methodology

The DMV reports that the provisions of the bill would result in a savings to the State Highway Fund due to a reduction in the number of plates that would need to be manufactured under the provisions of the bill. The agency reports that a total of 8,262,146 plates were manufactured in fiscal year 2012. Assuming an annual growth rate of 1.5 percent in the number of plates manufactured, approximately 8,511,870 plates would be manufactured in fiscal year 2014 under the current two-plate issuance requirement and 4,255,935 plates (or half the amount) would be manufactured under the provisions of the bill. For the purposes of this analysis, it is assumed the number of plates manufactured would increase by 1.5 percent each year thereafter.

The DMV reports that the current unit costs to manufacture license plates are currently $1.60 for general issue plates, $1.69 for specialty one/two-color plates, and $1.88 for specialty three/four color plates. The DMV estimates that the unit cost will increase by approximately 11 percent due to the distribution of certain fixed overhead costs over fewer plates manufactured. Under the current laws and unit costs, the DMV estimates plate manufacturing costs for approximately 8.5 million plates would be $13,715,071 in fiscal year 2014. Under the provisions of the bill and estimated new unit costs, the DMV estimates plate manufacturing costs for approximately 4.25 million plates would be $7,623,315 resulting in savings of $6,091,756 beginning in fiscal year 2014. It is assumed the amount of savings would continue each year thereafter at an annual growth rate of 1.5 percent based on the projected growth in the number of plates manufactured each year.

Based on the information provided by the DMV, is assumed any costs or duties associated with implementing the provisions of the bill could be absorbed within existing resources.

Local Government Impact

No fiscal implication to units of local government is anticipated.


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Old 03-23-2013, 09:56 AM   #28
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Any updates on this?

And I've searched several times through Google about the incident where they left out some portion where you can't be fined for not having a front license plate and can't really find anything definitive on it.

Can I be fined for having only one license plate? When will the next hearing or when might the decision be made on allowing only one plate on a vehicle?

I only ask because I just ordered my WRX and it'll be at the dealer on the 15th of April. Wouldn't want them to drill any unnecessary holes and I was also thinking about just purchasing the Totsubo license plate thing. Thanks!
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:17 AM   #29
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Any updates on this?

And I've searched several times through Google about the incident where they left out some portion where you can't be fined for not having a front license plate and can't really find anything definitive on it.

Can I be fined for having only one license plate? When will the next hearing or when might the decision be made on allowing only one plate on a vehicle?

I only ask because I just ordered my WRX and it'll be at the dealer on the 15th of April. Wouldn't want them to drill any unnecessary holes and I was also thinking about just purchasing the Totsubo license plate thing. Thanks!
I'll update when there is an update. So far, the bill has been left pending in committee. They may vote on it on Tuesday, and if is passes the house transportation committee (which a majority of members seem to indicate), it will head to the full house for a vote. The problem, is that there is no companion bill in the senate. We need both chambers to pass identical bills to be able to send to the governor.

As of now, yes, you can be pulled over and cited for having only one license plate. However, if you can show that you've put a front plate on, it's just a $10 administrative fee (fix-it ticket).

If this bill makes it to the governor's desk for his signature, it would be effective on September 1, 2013. On that day, I would take my front plate off my cars.
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:42 PM   #30
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Time for an update. I have been speaking with the author of this bill. He told me the bill is dead. He says law enforcement is against it, and most members of the committee have taken their side. There are not enough votes for it to pass. His biggest gripe is the lack of communication. Not enough people contacted their representatives and the chair of the transportation committee to voice their support for HB657. I did my part, on more than one occasion.

I told him if he introduces this bill again in 2 years, I would come up and testify for it in the committee and state facts against law enforcement's objections.

I started another thread in which people should contact their reps. HB3664 will raise registration fees $30, from $50.75 to $80.75 per year. That's before counties tack on their fees. You're looking at close to, or over $100 per year to register your car depending on the type of license plate you have (all general issue plates should be under $100 / anything that goes to charity will be over $100).

I recommend contacting your rep. to have them vote no on this bill. HB3664 has passed committee (by a vote of 21-1) and will eventually head to the house floor for a vote. The author of HB657 has told me he will vote no on it, as he has been vocal against raising registration fees. HB3664 will not go towards fixing/maintaining current Texas roads. It will go toward any new non-toll road and eliminating debt of current roads.
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodo...l/HB03664I.htm

I won't be updating this thread, unless a surprise happens w/ HB657 - a small possibility. I will update the other thread.
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:34 PM   #31
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Figures. The no front plate is the polices door key to **** with people about other crap.
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:15 AM   #32
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Easiest way to get by with 1 plate, is get the car registered in a state that only issues 1... Such as Florida.. That's where I registered my car. Easier for me though as I'm military.
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:13 PM   #33
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Figures. The no front plate is the polices door key to **** with people about other crap.
I'm good friend with the sheriff in Ennis. He was telling me that they can no longer use the front plate as a reason to stop you. They don't even enforce it anymore.
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:49 PM   #34
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I haven't had a front plate on my truck since I bought it just over 2 years ago.
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Old 04-22-2013, 04:31 PM   #35
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Thought I read something that all they can do is cite you for it.. But cant fine you. So its a waste of time and effort.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:46 PM   #36
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I'm good friend with the sheriff in Ennis. He was telling me that they can no longer use the front plate as a reason to stop you. They don't even enforce it anymore.
Yeah this ^ is what I thought until a DPS Trooper stopped my wife and kids driving our Honda Pilot on their way to Houston a few weeks ago. He stopped her on the freeway specifically for no front plate. She wasn't speeding and only got a warning for the "missing" plate. He was totally rude and scared her which is totally stupid. Needless to say the Pilot now has a front plate and so does the STI.
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