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Old 03-14-2013, 04:32 PM   #651
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Looking forward to the updated times.
Me too! I'm doing a full brake system over haul to help slow the ol' girl down. Putting e85 in it and turning it up another 100whp or so. I'll be sure to post videos if I don't break it first
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Old 03-14-2013, 10:22 PM   #652
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Sounds sick man. Gotta love e85. Big injectors and pump and retune and boom 100 more whp
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:43 PM   #653
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Here is a look at the 50-100 for my 08 STI. Full build details: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2472813

This is now running E85 on the pump tune with injector scaling changed. I'll do an E85 tune here in the next week and see if I can get a bit more out of it.

Vehicle: 2008 STI
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Cobb AP SD
Weight: 3450 lbs empty, with me 3648lbs
50-100MPH: 3.99 (24-25psi, 480ish whp), 4.99 (21-22psi 430ish whp)



You can see that the higher boost makes a bigger difference at the lower RPMs in 3rd gear. The slope once in 4th is almost the same.

I also did a run in 4th gear only, and indeed it is slower. The 60-130 might be different, and I'll be curious to give that a try.

Also, here is a look at boost for the faster run:



I really should turn on flat foot shifting.. that boost drop sucks.

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Old 03-15-2013, 02:10 PM   #654
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Wow Jeff thats sick man and some really detailed graphs. Nice post. Seems like you dropped a full second off 50whp. I wonder if that carries over through to other build and setups? Your making huge power for only 25psi, that turbo is pretty happy.
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Old 03-15-2013, 02:26 PM   #655
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Wow Jeff thats sick man and some really detailed graphs. Nice post. Seems like you dropped a full second off 50whp. I wonder if that carries over through to other build and setups? Your making huge power for only 25psi, that turbo is pretty happy.
Yea, although on the street it is hard to tell how accurate the whp number comparison is. Boost is more on the street at a lower RPM, so my butt dyno says the higher boost is a bit more then 50whp difference.. and I am running E85 right now so that might add a bit. Once I get on the dyno with the E85 it will be cool.

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Old 03-15-2013, 02:29 PM   #656
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Here is a look at the 50-100 for my 08 STI. Full build details: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2472813

This is now running E85 on the pump tune with injector scaling changed. I'll do an E85 tune here in the next week and see if I can get a bit more out of it.

Vehicle: 2008 STI
Motor: Built WJ257
Turbo: EFR7670
Boost: 24-25.0 psi
Transmission: Stock 6-Speed
Redline: 7800
Upgrades:see http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2472813

Cobb AP SD
Weight: 3450 lbs empty, with me 3648lbs
50-100MPH: 3.99 (24-25psi, 480ish whp), 4.99 (21-22psi 430ish whp)

[IMG]http://www.sponaugle.com/nasioc/08STI50to100MPG.png[IMG]

You can see that the higher boost makes a bigger difference at the lower RPMs in 3rd gear. The slope once in 4th is almost the same.

I also did a run in 4th gear only, and indeed it is slower. The 60-130 might be different, and I'll be curious to give that a try.

Also, here is a look at boost for the faster run:

[IMG]http://www.sponaugle.com/nasioc/08STI50to100Boost.png[IMG]

I really should turn on flat foot shifting.. that boost drop sucks.

Jeff
Nice times. Must be a quick car! The comparisons are great to see as well. I think you could easily shave a few 1/10th's with a flat foot shift!

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Wow Jeff thats sick man and some really detailed graphs. Nice post. Seems like you dropped a full second off 50whp. I wonder if that carries over through to other build and setups? Your making huge power for only 25psi, that turbo is pretty happy.
My car dropped about 1/2 second per 40WHP on Virtual Dyno. Loosing a full second with 50WHP is a bit surprising based on what I've seen, but all my testing was within a single gear.
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Old 03-15-2013, 04:39 PM   #657
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My car dropped about 1/2 second per 40WHP on Virtual Dyno. Loosing a full second with 50WHP is a bit surprising based on what I've seen, but all my testing was within a single gear.
Yep, based on road feel I suspect it is more like 70-80whp difference.. and of course in 4th gear the boost is higher then what I had on the dyno.. especially in the 24psi run. Boost control with the current wastegate has been difficult because I have the actuator preloaded a lot, which makes it temperature dependent.

If anything this shows how difficult it is to just dyno tune.. so many different variables on the road.

I'll turn on the flat foot and do some more longs this next week.

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Old 03-15-2013, 07:13 PM   #658
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Yeah ffs makes a huge difference for me. I'm almost a full second slower without it.
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Old 03-15-2013, 11:42 PM   #659
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Ffs made no diff for me and airmancam actually had faster times without it too. All about that footwork bro!
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Old 03-15-2013, 11:45 PM   #660
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Ffs made no diff for me and airmancam actually had faster times without it too. All about that footwork bro!
Yeah I tend to drive way to soft without it thus shifting slower where as when I'm ffs I flog the thing. Lol makes no sense.
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Old 03-16-2013, 12:40 AM   #661
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Yeah I tend to drive way to soft without it thus shifting slower where as when I'm ffs I flog the thing. Lol makes no sense.

I got you there... I beat on my car when I drive it. Granted I only put 1k on her last year
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Old 03-16-2013, 12:41 AM   #662
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And that my friend is a failed /quote
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Old 03-16-2013, 12:44 AM   #663
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I envy ur mileage. Having ur project car as ur dd tends to spoil some of the modding/abuse fun.

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Old 03-16-2013, 06:50 PM   #664
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I envy ur mileage. Having ur project car as ur dd tends to spoil some of the modding/abuse fun.
Good luck daily driving a modded subaru. I get pissed off just looking at mine.
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Old 03-16-2013, 06:56 PM   #665
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If that is his tire and wheel size, then he is maybe a little faster from 50-100mph than has been calculated. that tire and wheel setup would hit 100mph when his speedometer says 98.3mph. The proper reading would be from about 49.3-98.3mph...as fast as his car is, i think an error of 1-2mph is only going to cost maybe a couple 10ths at the most, but still awesome to be able to say that he could be even faster.
Yeah, I'm on 18x9.5's with 235/40 federals. Big ol' heavy tire and wheel combo I weighed them before I can't remember how much they weighed exactly but mid-high 40's. Putting on my set of stock wheels and tires would probably save me 3-4 10ths from rotating mass alone.
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Old 03-16-2013, 07:34 PM   #666
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Good luck daily driving a modded subaru. I get pissed off just looking at mine.
Lol honestly I've been lucky I guess. Threw a built block in at 19k and.now.have 62k and.have not had 1 issue. 415/405 everyday. I don't get on it often though.
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Old 03-16-2013, 08:53 PM   #667
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Lol honestly I've been lucky I guess. Threw a built block in at 19k and.now.have 62k and.have not had 1 issue. 415/405 everyday. I don't get on it often though.
I guess so LOL! I threw a built block in at 46k, 47k and 59k LOL.
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Old 03-16-2013, 10:59 PM   #668
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Hahaha omg I would've just threw in the towel and bought a KIA at that point. You sir are quite stubborn

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Old 03-17-2013, 01:13 PM   #669
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I envy ur mileage. Having ur project car as ur dd tends to spoil some of the modding/abuse fun.

^ this...I LOVED it when my car was working, but it only managed to run about 6 months out of the year...partly because I have ZERO luck and partly because I was pretty aggressive with it
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:04 PM   #670
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Yeah most of my buddies are all on there 2nd or 3rd built block or have moved on to a new model sti or swore off subaru all together and bought evos, yet mine is still going. I'd say its partly cause I'm usually in traffic to and from work so it doesn't see many wot pulls and because the tune is on the conservative side. I mean I have a fully built block, Dom3xtr,fmic and meth and I'm only making 415/405, I'm sure I could squeeze Way more out of it but I'd prefer to make just over 4 and not have to constantly have issues.

Watch me blow my motor tomorrow now cause I said this. Lol
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:47 PM   #671
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Yeah most of my buddies are all on there 2nd or 3rd built block or have moved on to a new model sti or swore off subaru all together and bought evos, yet mine is still going. I'd say its partly cause I'm usually in traffic to and from work so it doesn't see many wot pulls and because the tune is on the conservative side. I mean I have a fully built block, Dom3xtr,fmic and meth and I'm only making 415/405, I'm sure I could squeeze Way more out of it but I'd prefer to make just over 4 and not have to constantly have issues.

Watch me blow my motor tomorrow now cause I said this. Lol
Yup. You just jinxed yourself bigtime.

I'm just jealous because I have to constantly worry about my 5spd exploding.
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:03 PM   #672
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Yeah that's a crappy situation to be in. You can make big power on a 5speed but its only a matter of time before something breaks. Then ur left with the dilemma. Sell it and buy an sti, do gears or do a 6 speed swap. My buddy learned the hard way and replaced his 5 speed with a new 5 speed 3 times before biting the bullet and doing the 6 speed swap. He wasted so much money
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:26 PM   #673
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Watch me blow my motor tomorrow now cause I said this. Lol
So how is your day going? Lol
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Hahaha all is well thus far. Lol
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Old 04-14-2013, 03:52 PM   #675
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I ran a log on 4/2/13 and posted a VD graph of it on my thread. I decided to VD graph just the 50-100 mph portion of the log based on my MFactory gear calculations for speed/ rpm's/ gear's. Here is a link to the full pull VD graph.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...2480570&page=3

Here is my 50-100 mph time based on this portion of the 3rd gear log.

Here is the VD time/ rpm graph

Weight: Full Stock Weight for an XTI+ driver (it's not at all a stock FXT) probably 3600 lbs. with all the crap I had in it not including me!
50-100MPH: 4.19sec

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