the wheel fitment thread: keep it drama free - Page 87

Antiharper · 03-19-2013, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fedex23

I've seen this before also & he is correct.

Crazy! I didn't know that. Why would the waste the tooling cost to make a die to stamp if they weren't multi fit? Ah well time to shop again. Thx guys!

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wrx2630 · 03-19-2013, 09:55 AM

year:2011
model:STI (sedan)
wheel model: Forgestar F14
wheel size/offset:18x9 in a +40 offset or 18x8.5 offset between +40 - +50
tire size:245/40/18
suspension : stock
fender mods: not willing to role
spacers: dont want to get spacers

Would both sizes fit and not have to do any extra mods? Whats the lowest offset i could without modding fenders and or without spacers?

sc00by4life · 03-19-2013, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrx2630

year:2011
model:STI (sedan)
wheel model: Forgestar F14
wheel size/offset:18x9 in a +40 offset or 18x8.5 offset between +40 - +50
tire size:245/40/18
suspension : stock
fender mods: not willing to role
spacers: dont want to get spacers

Would both sizes fit and not have to do any extra mods? Whats the lowest offset i could without modding fenders and or without spacers?

first - if you do NOT want to do fender mods, dont worry about "whats the lowest offset/widest i can go". stop even THINKING about that.

both would fit, the 18x8.5 would fit BETTER and let you run close to same tire options as a 9" wheel.

gamma1232 · 03-19-2013, 03:51 PM

Year: 2005
Model: STi Sedan
Tire Size: 255/40/R18
Suspension: Stock
Fender Mods: don't want to roll
Spaces: don't want spacers

What kind of wheel width and offset do I need to fit a 255 tire without causing the centers of the tire to bulge or have rub within the wells or struts? I was looking at the offset thread but it didn't have offset ranges for anything above 8".

gunghoman414 · 03-19-2013, 04:14 PM

Year: 2012
Model: WRX Limited
Suspension: Stock
Fenders: Huge Roll in rear fenders
Spacers: None
Wheels:Rota g-Forces 18x9e35 (Flat Black)
Tires: Federal 595s (255/35/18)

littlewhitewagon · 03-19-2013, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunghoman414

Year: 2012
Model: WRX Limited
Suspension: Stock
Fenders: Huge Roll in rear fenders
Spacers: None
Wheels:Rota g-Forces 18x9e35 (Flat Black)
Tires: Federal 595s (255/35/18)

No roll detected in pictures.

littlewhitewagon · 03-19-2013, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamma1232

Year: 2005
Model: STi Sedan
Tire Size: 255/40/R18
Suspension: Stock
Fender Mods: don't want to roll
Spaces: don't want spacers

What kind of wheel width and offset do I need to fit a 255 tire without causing the centers of the tire to bulge or have rub within the wells or struts? I was looking at the offset thread but it didn't have offset ranges for anything above 8".

That tire size isn't going to work for you. 255/35R18 is about where you want to be. All comes down to your budget as certain wheels come in certain sizes. 18x9 around the +40 range is what will fit within your requirements.

wrx2630 · 03-19-2013, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc00by4life

first - if you do NOT want to do fender mods, dont worry about "whats the lowest offset/widest i can go". stop even THINKING about that.

both would fit, the 18x8.5 would fit BETTER and let you run close to same tire options as a 9" wheel.

thanks, im not thinking of getting a low offset at all, I was just told that +40 offset would not need any mods wanted to make sure it was true

so I have a 245/40/18 tire I take the 18x8.5 size what would be the best offset to get for a stock height/fenders etc, the options are +40 up to +50?
I assume +50 since its closest to stock but what would look the best or there wouldnt really be a difference?

Thanks again in advance

gamma1232 · 03-19-2013, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlewhitewagon

That tire size isn't going to work for you. 255/35R18 is about where you want to be. All comes down to your budget as certain wheels come in certain sizes. 18x9 around the +40 range is what will fit within your requirements.

Ok cool, if I stuck with a 17x9 wheel could I maintain a 40 or 45mm sidewall? I would rather have beefier sidewall than a larger diameter rim. With a 35 I'm concerned ill have a rougher ride and be more prone to damaging the wheels on the ****ty NJ roads I drive on.

sc00by4life · 03-19-2013, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamma1232

Ok cool, if I stuck with a 17x9 wheel could I maintain a 40 or 45mm sidewall? I would rather have beefier sidewall than a larger diameter rim. With a 35 I'm concerned ill have a rougher ride and be more prone to damaging the wheels on the ****ty NJ roads I drive on.

sidewalls aren't measured in millimeters.

understand how tire sizing works, and this all starts to become much clearer.

gamma1232 · 03-19-2013, 06:44 PM

I see, let's try this again.

Assuming I stay with a 17" wheel I've gained 24ish mm of space for the sidewall which should allow me to fit a 255 tire with an aspect ratio of up to 45 and still maintain an overall tire/wheel diameter similar to the 255/35/18 tire that littlewhitewagon proposed. Is my reasoning correct?

sc00by4life · 03-19-2013, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamma1232

I see, let's try this again.

Assuming I stay with a 17" wheel I've gained 24ish mm of space for the sidewall which should allow me to fit a 255 tire with an aspect ratio of up to 45 and still maintain an overall tire/wheel diameter similar to the 255/35/18 tire that littlewhitewagon proposed. Is my reasoning correct?

No. a 255/45/17 is an inch taller than a 255/35/18. a 255/40 would be right on the money though (both being ~25.03").

with a 255/40/17 vs a 255/35/18 you'll gain roughly a half inch of sidewall.

gamma1232 · 03-19-2013, 06:53 PM

Oh right, forgot to double the increase in sidewall. Was only thing about a gain for half the tire...derp. thanks for the info...much appreciated!

gunghoman414 · 03-20-2013, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlewhitewagon

No roll detected in pictures.

these pictures were taken the day of installation.. the roll happened 2 days following installation.

eastcoastimprezz · 03-20-2013, 01:55 AM

year: 2005
model: Impreza Outback Sport
wheel model: xxr 526 hundred dollar deeps
wheel size/offset: front- 17x9/35 rear-17x10/20

tire brand/model: nexen n7000
tire size: 255/40/17
suspension: rokkor tuning coilovers (I'm aware it's cheap, but it's in the budget)
alignment: stock
fender mods: willing to roll, no pull.
spacers: no idea if I'll need them! This is my main question!
other details: I want a meaty look. I just want to make sure that everything listed will fit together nicely with little to no complications. Any help would be wonderful! Thanks in advance!

sc00by4life · 03-20-2013, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eastcoastimprezz

year: 2005
model: Impreza Outback Sport
wheel model: xxr 526 hundred dollar deeps
wheel size/offset: front- 17x9/35 rear-17x10/20

tire brand/model: nexen n7000
tire size: 255/40/17
suspension: rokkor tuning coilovers (I'm aware it's cheap, but it's in the budget)
alignment: stock
fender mods: willing to roll, no pull.
spacers: no idea if I'll need them! This is my main question!
other details: I want a meaty look. I just want to make sure that everything listed will fit together nicely with little to no complications. Any help would be wonderful! Thanks in advance!

first things first.

Search.

Staggered fitments are a HORRIBLE idea.

Secondly...you are stacking **** parts upon **** parts upon **** parts. Stop. Save. Do things properly. ESPECIALLY if you are on a mcdonalds budget.

Read. Keep reading. Both of those stupid sizes are far from "little to no complications".

Stop looking at parts. Start reading, and learning. And save up.

Antiharper · 03-20-2013, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc00by4life

first things first.

Search.

Staggered fitments are a HORRIBLE idea.

Secondly...you are stacking **** parts upon **** parts upon **** parts. Stop. Save. Do things properly. ESPECIALLY if you are on a mcdonalds budget.

Read. Keep reading. Both of those stupid sizes are far from "little to no complications".

Stop looking at parts. Start reading, and learning. And save up.

I second this. Staggered are a bad idea. If everything isn't perfect you may unintentionally burn out center dif. You will also suffer performance and handling wise. If that's the case why not just buy a camero cheaper more muscle and goes in a straight line.

wrx2630 · 03-20-2013, 01:49 PM

on a 245/40/18 tire, STock sti 2011 what would the best offset be to look/fit the best
18x8.5 size option for offset are anywhere from +40 to +50

patburns101 · 03-20-2013, 06:55 PM

Could a WRX awd system handle a tire size difference?

For instance wheel size 18x8
tire size 235/40/18

Can I run 215/35/18 with some stretch on the fronts and leave the 235/40/18 rears? Or will this throw off my awd system?

Counterfit · 03-20-2013, 07:02 PM

It will destroy your center differential. Probably quickly.

patburns101 · 03-20-2013, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Counterfit

It will destroy your center differential. Probably quickly.

It's that sensitive...WOW. I guess a staggered set up is definitely out of the question haha

Counterfit · 03-20-2013, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patburns101

It's that sensitive...WOW. I guess a staggered set up is definitely out of the question haha

Those sizes give you a ≈50 revolution difference per mile.

eastcoastimprezz · 03-20-2013, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc00by4life

first things first.

Search.

Staggered fitments are a HORRIBLE idea.

Secondly...you are stacking **** parts upon **** parts upon **** parts. Stop. Save. Do things properly. ESPECIALLY if you are on a mcdonalds budget.

Read. Keep reading. Both of those stupid sizes are far from "little to no complications".

Stop looking at parts. Start reading, and learning. And save up.

I appreciate the help, not so much the hostility.
My budget has increased since I started working full time. I bring in 2k a week, so no need for harsh words.
I got what I could afford at the time being.
I know the rims are cheap. I never said they were not. But they fit the style I'm looking for.
Instead of bashing, why not give me some alternatives? I came here to read and learn and get some advice from people with similar issues.

sc00by4life · 03-20-2013, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eastcoastimprezz

I appreciate the help, not so much the hostility.
My budget has increased since I started working full time. I bring in 2k a week, so no need for harsh words.
I got what I could afford at the time being.
I know the rims are cheap. I never said they were not. But they fit the style I'm looking for.
Instead of bashing, why not give me some alternatives? I came here to read and learn and get some advice from people with similar issues.

2k a week yet you also say "Rokkor coils" are the only thing in your budget.

Cheap wheels. Cheap coils. Cheap tires. You aren't ballin. You don't have to lie, in fact it's better to honest with yourself.

You bought the wrong wheels. Sell them and find something else. Read this thread, the offset thread, and the several fitment threads in members car gallery top to bottom.

bboylocob · 03-20-2013, 09:39 PM

So u bring in almost 100,000 a year and went that cheap. Wow.

I'm on paramedic pay which for what I do the pay sucks. And I don't even go cheap. Yea I have xxr's but they are my dd wheels to bash up on the roads here. Track is differ set up.

03-19-2013, 09:55 AM	#2152
wrx2630 Scooby Newbie Member#: 290232 Join Date: Aug 2011 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Montreal, Canada Vehicle: 2011 STI Sedan Blue	year:2011 model:STI (sedan) wheel model: Forgestar F14 wheel size/offset:18x9 in a +40 offset or 18x8.5 offset between +40 - +50 tire size:245/40/18 suspension : stock fender mods: not willing to role spacers: dont want to get spacers Would both sizes fit and not have to do any extra mods? Whats the lowest offset i could without modding fenders and or without spacers? Last edited by wrx2630; 03-19-2013 at 10:09 AM.

03-20-2013, 01:55 AM	#2165
eastcoastimprezz Scooby Newbie Member#: 336922 Join Date: Nov 2012 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Pennsylvania Vehicle: 2005 Impreza OBS Silver/ Charcoal	year: 2005 model: Impreza Outback Sport wheel model: xxr 526 hundred dollar deeps wheel size/offset: front- 17x9/35 rear-17x10/20 tire brand/model: nexen n7000 tire size: 255/40/17 suspension: rokkor tuning coilovers (I'm aware it's cheap, but it's in the budget) alignment: stock fender mods: willing to roll, no pull. spacers: no idea if I'll need them! This is my main question! other details: I want a meaty look. I just want to make sure that everything listed will fit together nicely with little to no complications. Any help would be wonderful! Thanks in advance! Last edited by eastcoastimprezz; 03-20-2013 at 02:25 AM.

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gamma1232 Scooby Newbie Member#: 249493 Join Date: Jun 2010 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Hoboken Vehicle: 2005 STi Silver	Year: 2005 Model: STi Sedan Tire Size: 255/40/R18 Suspension: Stock Fender Mods: don't want to roll Spaces: don't want spacers What kind of wheel width and offset do I need to fit a 255 tire without causing the centers of the tire to bulge or have rub within the wells or struts? I was looking at the offset thread but it didn't have offset ranges for anything above 8".

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gunghoman414 * Banned * Member#: 336427 Join Date: Oct 2012 Vehicle: 2012	Year: 2012 Model: WRX Limited Suspension: Stock Fenders: Huge Roll in rear fenders Spacers: None Wheels:Rota g-Forces 18x9e35 (Flat Black) Tires: Federal 595s (255/35/18)

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gamma1232 Scooby Newbie Member#: 249493 Join Date: Jun 2010 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Hoboken Vehicle: 2005 STi Silver	I see, let's try this again. Assuming I stay with a 17" wheel I've gained 24ish mm of space for the sidewall which should allow me to fit a 255 tire with an aspect ratio of up to 45 and still maintain an overall tire/wheel diameter similar to the 255/35/18 tire that littlewhitewagon proposed. Is my reasoning correct?

03-19-2013, 06:53 PM	#2163
gamma1232 Scooby Newbie Member#: 249493 Join Date: Jun 2010 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Hoboken Vehicle: 2005 STi Silver	Oh right, forgot to double the increase in sidewall. Was only thing about a gain for half the tire...derp. thanks for the info...much appreciated!

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wrx2630 Scooby Newbie Member#: 290232 Join Date: Aug 2011 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Montreal, Canada Vehicle: 2011 STI Sedan Blue	on a 245/40/18 tire, STock sti 2011 what would the best offset be to look/fit the best 18x8.5 size option for offset are anywhere from +40 to +50

03-20-2013, 06:55 PM	#2169
patburns101 Scooby Newbie Member#: 316797 Join Date: Apr 2012	Could a WRX awd system handle a tire size difference? For instance wheel size 18x8 tire size 235/40/18 Can I run 215/35/18 with some stretch on the fronts and leave the 235/40/18 rears? Or will this throw off my awd system?

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bboylocob Scooby Specialist Member#: 151809 Join Date: Jun 2007 Chapter/Region: South East Location: New Orleans Vehicle: 2007 WRX Black	So u bring in almost 100,000 a year and went that cheap. Wow. I'm on paramedic pay which for what I do the pay sucks. And I don't even go cheap. Yea I have xxr's but they are my dd wheels to bash up on the roads here. Track is differ set up.