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Old 03-16-2013, 11:13 PM   #851
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How deep does the NMO mount extend INTO the car? I have a forester with the giant sunroof and I had plans on using that style of antenna for the mobile HAM rig. However, I realized that the sunroof and blocking pad might extend too far back for effective antenna mounting (center of roof).

I'm hoping the mounts are relatively flush, or at least they don't stick too far down that the glass or blocking pad get in the way or are prevented from extending all the way back. I haven't taken the roof liner off to see how much space I have to play with. However, if I can avoid this worry altogether with some upfront knowledge, it will help.

EDIT: from the (recent) look back through this thread, it doesn't look like it would extend TOO far into the car. However, some exact measurements would be helpful.
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Old 03-17-2013, 12:09 AM   #852
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A normal one is probably less than 1/2" depth on the inside of the roof skin.

I've put one in a 2007 Impreza with sunroof. It fits just fine if you put it in the center of the metal area behind the sunroof. You just have to be sure to stick the cable to the roof well so that it doesn't fall and become tangled up in the sunroof.
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Old 03-17-2013, 02:04 AM   #853
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I did a quick check on the mounts, and mine are running about 3/8ths with the plastic insulator cap installed. There are models with no insulator cap that appear to be thinner. When ordering, be careful not to order the versions that are intended for "thick mounts" -- areas with roof bracing and the like.
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:27 PM   #854
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Excellent advice, thank you. I'm waiting to pull the roof liner as I want to put Rammat up there nearly at the same time, so I'm not sure what type of clearance I'll have, but I'll go for one of the shallow mounts. I figure that the glass has to pop down and in and give at least 3/8" of clearance to the roof. We'll see what happens.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:36 AM   #855
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Having used both Rammat and... whatever the hell Second Skin's product is called... use the Second Skin product. It was substantially more effective at a single layer and sticks to the roof a lot better. My car is done with all Rammat products and my wife's car is done with all Second Skin products. Hers turned out a hell of a lot better.
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Old 06-09-2013, 05:40 PM   #856
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So I run a Midland CB with a Lil Wilson 36" antenna. What SWR meters are you guys using?
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Old 06-09-2013, 06:16 PM   #857
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So I run a Midland CB with a Lil Wilson 36" antenna. What SWR meters are you guys using?
I use a Telepost, Inc. LP-100A Digital Vector Wattmeter.
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Old 06-20-2013, 02:05 PM   #858
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Thanks for all of the advice! Does anyone in the Des Moines (Iowa) area have a swr meter that can help with a tune?
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Old 08-10-2013, 07:55 PM   #859
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What's up guys? So I got another question for you. I passed my ham test and am a licensed operator! And then life happened and I haven't been able to devote any time to the hobby for a while, but now I've finally got around to getting a radio (only three months later...) and I just wanted to ask what in your opinion is the best dual band antenna? I did the research and everyone seems to agree the Kenwood TM-V71A is an excellent radio so that's what I'm going to get. But the antenna is throwing me for a loop. I like Larsen, it's really served me well on the CB, but I'm open to anything.

I might add, I'll be going to school in central Mississippi in an area that's well, rather troubled with crime, so I'd rather not advertise there's a radio in the car if possible. So the less obtrusive the better. I know a shorter antenna may hurt performance, but i mean, it's flat as hell out there, you can get reception from two cans and a string haha
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Old 08-10-2013, 10:01 PM   #860
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Congrats on passing the exam & getting your license - welcome to the club!

You can get some really low-profile mobile antennas that are less-likely to draw attention, but they obviously won't perform as well as a gain-rated whip. I've seen some that mimic the newer FM-style antennas you see on recent cars, but I imagine those are no better than a rubber-duck. If, however, you live in a metro area where repeaters are plentiful (and close,) then that'll do just fine and have the inconspicuous qualities you're looking for. You could also do quick-disconnect or mag-mount (bring on the hate) if you don't mind that extra step.

If you're partial to Larsen, you could look at their nmoq model, but i got nuthin regarding specs or performance.

Good luck & let us know what you decide

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Old 08-10-2013, 11:53 PM   #861
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I might add, I'll be going to school in central Mississippi in an area that's well, rather troubled with crime, so I'd rather not advertise there's a radio in the car if possible. So the less obtrusive the better. I know a shorter antenna may hurt performance, but i mean, it's flat as hell out there, you can get reception from two cans and a string haha
Smallest doesn't always mean least noticeable. The shortest antenna I'd recommend is the Larsen NMO2/70SH. It's very short but you give up a LOT of receive and transmit with it compared to my favorite antenna, the Larsen NMO2/70B. Now, the B is close to twice as tall as the SH. However, I have a harder time finding my car in the parking lot (has the B) than my wife's car (has the SH). The B is thin black wire. The SH is slightly thicker bright silver wire. It's just a lot easier to see the SH.

There's nothing shorter than the SH that's going to be worth a damn.
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:15 AM   #862
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So, after a few happy months of ownership, I've decided that it's time to put my radio in the car again. I had it mounted nicely in my old Neon, but I haven't been interested in mounting it in my 2013 Impreza. I am a weather spotter and with the coming thaw and warmer temps (Chicago has been brutal this winter), I need to get this set up finally.

I mainly am looking at how to run through the firewall. I had no problem in the Neon because there was a grommet that could easily be punched for the power, but I haven't been as successful locating a good spot to run it through on this car. Does anyone have suggestions? I'm mounting an Icom under the seat and putting the remote head by the shifter for easy viewing. Going to use that ridiculously strong Velcro that Illinois has on the ipass.
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Old 02-10-2014, 01:16 AM   #863
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Finally got a CB installed. Used the single DIN Cobra 18 WX ST II mounted in the stock gauge cluster hood. For an antenna I got a Larsen NMO27BCO for my existing NMO mount. This gives me an either/or relationship between ham radio and CB so I'll switch things out as needed. CB will be for highway trips and club drives, ham for pro and TSD rallies. Only bummer is I can't get into the garage with the CB antenna as it's just too long so I will only screw it on when needed.

Dude, this is the same set up that I'm doing. It looks super clean and almost OEM.
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:11 AM   #864
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wow....so much great information in here. Excited to see some other sparkies in the group Definitely sub'ing to keep for future reference.

Working on my Ham now as well, I'll post up once i get a setup installed.
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Old 05-07-2014, 09:26 AM   #865
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I'm bumping this thread because I've been looking for CB radio options for my car and some friends. Gone through a fair amount of pages, I like a lot of the setups!

If anyone recently has done a CB radio install please share some photos!
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:10 AM   #866
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Williaty, ok after reading through this thread AGAIN.. LOL.. I want to put it as a single simple statement and then ask for a recommendation:

Statement: 2004 WRX Wagon, CB only use (for now) on the highway, NMO/roof mount for sure, Radio undecided.

Recommendation: since this thread was birthed in 2009, in today's market: What NMO for CB do you recommend?

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Old 05-11-2014, 12:07 PM   #867
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Antenna wise, the same Larsen NMO and Larsen antenna are available. Commercial market products change really slowly.
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:52 PM   #868
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Wiliaty you said in your very first post:

"Larsen NMO2/70B in front and Larsen NMO27B in the rear" Are they actually different or is the tuning of them different? having trouble finding the NMO27B (black) Also all the references to them are for VHF/UHF use. Does this matter?

I want the ability to remove and add the Larsen protective cover when I am not on the road. And have a unique Idea to make it look good. Just need to find the correct antenna.

thanks again.
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:55 PM   #869
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Yeah, they're different antennas for different jobs. The 2/70 is about 2 feet shorter than the 27. You need the NMO27B, which is the long antenna for CB usage. You'll need to find an SWR meter (which are cheap) to carefully trim the whip of the 27B to length for CB frequencies as it's designed to be able to be used for the ham radio bands above and below CB. IIRC, I had to cut a significant (mebbe 1-2") off the 27's whip but you need to carefully sneak up on it about a quarter inch at a time to make sure you don't overshoot.

If you can't find the antenna locally, I bought mine at Universal Radio. They have a website and ship worldwide.
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exactly what I wanted to know! thank you Sir!

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Old 05-11-2014, 03:44 PM   #871
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ugh who would think finding this online would be so dang hard.

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Old 05-11-2014, 04:38 PM   #872
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Call Universal Radio and they'll ship it out to you. No sense beating your head against the wall.
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Old 05-11-2014, 04:44 PM   #873
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no kidding... But I am Veruca Salt from Willy Wonka: "I want it NOW!"

I will call tomorrow, their website is about as old-school as it gets... I've been on ebullient boards that were easier... LOL

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They're grumpy old men with cats. The 90s are something that happened to other people
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LOL 90's? you are thinking of the Johnny Depp Version... I'm more Gene Wilder-version.

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