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Old 03-29-2013, 12:35 PM   #26
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If it was the A45AMG instead of the CLA45AMG it would be exactly what I want (barring the wishful dreams of a RS4 Avant).
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:37 PM   #27
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Fanboi hatred ? The sentiments were as mixed as they are for any other car discussed here
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:42 PM   #28
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The Subaru enthusiast community wants a well built (reliable), solid power outputing awd platform; the CLA 45AMG is that and much more.
That remains to be seen, you can't make a statement like that for a brand new car. It may turn out to be the case, but that still seems like really high output for a factory power plant especially from a manufacturer not known for bulletproof products.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:49 PM   #29
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If it was the A45AMG instead of the CLA45AMG it would be exactly what I want (barring the wishful dreams of a RS4 Avant).
no thanks, IŽll pass on this one



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Old 03-29-2013, 02:02 PM   #30
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That remains to be seen, you can't make a statement like that for a brand new car. It may turn out to be the case, but that still seems like really high output for a factory power plant especially from a manufacturer not known for bulletproof products.
What exactly remains to be seen, the worthiness of this (CLA45 AMG) or the desire for a similar platform from Subaru enthusiasts?

If you're looking for validation on the latter arguement, it's not hard to find.

The output may be high, but it's not like they didn't build the motor accordingly; I didn't see "cast" anything with regards to the bottom end.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:14 PM   #31
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no thanks, IŽll pass on this one
I couldn't disagree more. Keep your droopy-butt mini sedans in Germany.. we need more hatches here.

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The point was that I'm a little thunderstruck by the fanboi hatred, for this car, when it represents a lot of what this community wants.
No hate.. but for $47k I'm sure as hell not buying a 4 cylinder turbocharged car. This is America.. I'll take something with some displacement and throttle response.
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:08 PM   #32
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Looks fun and expensive.
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:11 PM   #33
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I couldn't disagree more. Keep your droopy-butt mini sedans in Germany.. we need more hatches here.



No hate.. but for $47k I'm sure as hell not buying a 4 cylinder turbocharged car. This is America.. I'll take something with some displacement and throttle response.
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the WRX STI MY2013 sport costs 53.100 € in Germany
the CLA 45 AMG costs 56.000 € in Germany
the A45 AMG costs 49.700 € in Germany
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I get that MBs are relatively cheap and Subarus are relatively expensive in Germany.. not so in the US.

This thing costs about $10-15k more than the STI in the US.

We can buy a BOSS 302 for about $8k less than the CLA45 and have Recaros, 444hp (with terrific throttle response) and adjustable shocks.
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:48 PM   #35
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Ford Mustang Boss 302 53.000 € in Germany as import from the grey market
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:49 PM   #36
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No hate... but for $47k I'm sure as hell not buying a 4 cylinder turbocharged car. This is America.. I'll take something with some displacement and throttle response.
All good, the new Camero Z/28 looks pretty promising! I'm actually pretty stoked on it, never looked at an American car before though.
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Old 03-29-2013, 04:07 PM   #37
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Old 03-31-2013, 01:01 AM   #38
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For many of us, if we didn't need AWD we wouldn't bother with Subaru. For me, this car with a hand-built AMG engine (4 cyl or not) and AWD is enticing.. and it seems like fuel economy could be a bonus. I don't refute your point, but we all cross shop different.

Also, comparing a mustang to a merc is really quite silly. Then again, comparing a merc to an STI is silly as well. My 2011 STI was seemingly built by either new, blind, or mentally challenged technicians.
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Old 03-31-2013, 01:49 AM   #39
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It seems like this car should be a coupe, like a baby CL, and RWD only.
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Old 03-31-2013, 03:29 PM   #40
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That is impressive power. Interior looks good. But I am not sold on the current M-B sedan line up.
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Old 03-31-2013, 03:41 PM   #41
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No hate.. but for $47k I'm sure as hell not buying a 4 cylinder turbocharged car. This is America.. I'll take something with some displacement and throttle response.
Well that's good because I bet you won't be able to buy one for $47k. You know how it works with German karz... shipping, paint, door handles, and a few other items and you will be way north of $47k.

Still it will be fun seeing how this new hatchling pans out in the real world.
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:00 PM   #42
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What exactly remains to be seen, the worthiness of this (CLA45 AMG) or the desire for a similar platform from Subaru enthusiasts?

If you're looking for validation on the latter arguement, it's not hard to find.

The output may be high, but it's not like they didn't build the motor accordingly; I didn't see "cast" anything with regards to the bottom end.
That it's well built and reliable. The M 133 DE 20 AL was all new last spring, and M-B isn't exactly the pinnacle of bullet proof automobiles the last 15 years. The first part of your statement was obvious and isn't limited just to Subaru enthusiasts.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:22 AM   #43
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I get that MBs are relatively cheap and Subarus are relatively expensive in Germany.. not so in the US.

This thing costs about $10-15k more than the STI in the US.

We can buy a BOSS 302 for about $8k less than the CLA45 and have Recaros, 444hp (with terrific throttle response) and adjustable shocks.
the CLA45 has Recaros...

and AWD, similar performance, much nicer interior+exterior.

but sure, if you're one of those Americans who only looks at the numbers, and would buy a track car like a Boss 302 and use it as a daily, then have fun!
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Am I the only one who thinks this car is FUGLY....
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Old 04-01-2013, 02:19 PM   #45
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So much win here. Would love to see that kind of power out of an STi stock.
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Old 04-01-2013, 02:31 PM   #46
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the CLA45 has Recaros...
I wasn't saying that it didn't.

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and AWD, similar performance, much nicer interior+exterior.
AWD? It's no better than Haldex. It's FWD-based with a PTU.. did you read the OP?

Nicer interior? They're both plastic tubs. Nicer exterior? That's purely subjective.. but I think M-B is leading the way in hideous cars, so no thanks.
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but sure, if you're one of those Americans who only looks at the numbers
Whatever argument you were trying to make was just rendered null and void. I've actually spent some time behind the wheel of a 302 and I've owned and driven a fair share of AWD turbocharged cars. I'll take the 302 any day of the week (that doesn't involve freezing rain the forecast).
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Old 04-01-2013, 04:07 PM   #47
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Am I the only one who thinks this car is FUGLY....
... did you forget we drive Subarus?
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Old 04-01-2013, 04:14 PM   #48
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That it's well built and reliable. The M 133 DE 20 AL was all new last spring, and M-B isn't exactly the pinnacle of bullet proof automobiles the last 15 years. The first part of your statement was obvious and isn't limited just to Subaru enthusiasts.
Reliability is subjective, I base it on my experience and you either experience or "reviews".

Of course the first part was obvious, it was intended to be as such; correct, but I was speaking in relation to the Subaru community - not just enthusiasts in general.

We can parse language all day long; regardless of what anyone has to say, I'm interested in this car.
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Old 04-01-2013, 05:08 PM   #49
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... did you forget we drive Subarus?
Don't get me wrong I love Mercedes, there's just somthing wrong with the new line up, I think it's the rear bumper the front grill and the dodge charger doors.
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Old 04-02-2013, 10:02 AM   #50
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I really like the idea of the car. Outside of the engines numbers the interior is probably the most impressive portion of the vehicle, the exterior leaves a little to be desired...and that exhaust in the videos doesn't sound all that great to me.
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