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Old 04-04-2013, 09:21 PM   #1
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Default So.....I bought one of those cheap ebay front lips

for my 06 wrx
$65 shipped......find it yourself

it had some self tapping screws and a couple pop-its supplied with it....i got a handful of 1/4" ss bolts/nuts/washers and some 3m double sided tape....its solid

....since im driving so many highway miles, i wanted to see if this would make any difference....
I lightened up the front end and it got a lil twitchy at speed...demanded a lot of attention.....figured a lil downforce(or maybe should say less lift) would help
it did

and in the 650 highway miles so far....im getting almost 2.5mpg better, too

my 02 wrx REALLY needed a lip too.....seems the gd chassis needs a lip for best overall user experience

kinda shocked it made so much difference

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Old 04-04-2013, 09:27 PM   #2
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GTF out of here really... no fooling? your talking about like a V limited or JNA style lip right? Would make sense even a small airdams will have an effect.
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:41 PM   #3
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:06 PM   #4
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GTF out of here really... no fooling? your talking about like a V limited or JNA style lip right? Would make sense even a small airdams will have an effect.
...the $65 style one that came in a full size box not all folded up, and had some screws and pop-its with it...the good one, ya know

and there seems to be quite a bit less air noise in the car now, too

****....couldnt ask for a better return on a $65 shipped lip ....$10 worth of tape and $5 worth of ss hardware and ~30 minutes time


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Old 04-04-2013, 10:11 PM   #5
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I've had that one for quite some time. I'm pretty sure it's reasonably well documented to be a good buy. Since I'm lowered, it scrapes a little on steep inclines, and the self tapping screws don't do a few good job on scraps, but zip-ties are wonderful.
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:17 PM   #6
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seems the price has DROPPED

its $57 SHIPPED now

and yeah...its a lil rough...but in places where it does not matter in the slightest

but it seemed the best deal....and i would recommend it.......get the 3m tape and some ss hardware to help mount it and kick yerself in the crotch for not doing it s00ner

and im not posting a link to anything ebay here
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:22 PM   #7
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I've had that one for quite some time. I'm pretty sure it's reasonably well documented to be a good buy. Since I'm lowered, it scrapes a little on steep inclines.
Same, I've smashed my Ebay lip quite a few times and not once has it cracked or fallen off.
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Old 04-05-2013, 02:04 AM   #8
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2.5 mpg better mpg isn't due to a lip with less than 1% frontal facing surface area compared to the rest of the car. Even if you were getting 30 mpg to begin with, an extra 2.5 mpg is an insane amount of improvement that cannot be achieved with a cheap hunk of plastic hanging off the front of your car.
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Old 04-05-2013, 02:22 AM   #9
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I'm with ^^^.

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Old 04-05-2013, 04:12 AM   #10
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I got the same lip as you sir. I find it very nice, but had to re-drill on the right side because the metal bracket had twisted and I got misaligned. But since then, I've had no problems, except for being very worried about bottoming out on speed bumps and the like. Great price, since shipping must have cost them about $20. I haven't noticed any MPG increase, but then again I tend to have it not displayed since it's so depressing. I get about 20.2 MPG over my first 1500 miles on my 2012 WRX.
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:03 AM   #11
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I got the same lip as you sir.
Scotty has a Hawkeye iirc.


US you should consider swapping the self tapping hardware for bolts/locknuts. It would suck to have one work loose and find it's way into a tire.
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:51 AM   #12
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2.5 mpg better mpg isn't due to a lip with less than 1% frontal facing surface area compared to the rest of the car. Even if you were getting 30 mpg to begin with, an extra 2.5 mpg is an insane amount of improvement that cannot be achieved with a cheap hunk of plastic hanging off the front of your car.
well...if you saw how high the front of the car sits you would likely agree....

i have a bit of a rake issue due to noltec plates in the front

and i DID say more data was needed, now didnt I
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:53 AM   #13
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Scotty has a Hawkeye iirc.


US you should consider swapping the self tapping hardware for bolts/locknuts. It would suck to have one work loose and find it's way into a tire.
I dont think they are gonna work lose anytime soon....there are 8 bolts/nuts/washers already there....i just used the screws to get the places where it needed a bit extra 'grip'
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:16 AM   #14
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2.5 mpg better mpg isn't due to a lip with less than 1% frontal facing surface area compared to the rest of the car. Even if you were getting 30 mpg to begin with, an extra 2.5 mpg is an insane amount of improvement that cannot be achieved with a cheap hunk of plastic hanging off the front of your car.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:48 AM   #15
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That's a huge gain in mpg for a tiny piece of plastic, doesn't seem possible in my experience.

For me, the prodrive lip made things a little less twitchy. Using w/ an APR splitter made the front end so grounded, the rear felt terrible . Gas mileage dropped with that setup.

V2 lip made about the same difference in reducing twitch at speed, but no noticeable change in mileage.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:02 PM   #16
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OK....for 1100 miles, the mpg is up about 1.5mpg, total.
summer/winter fuel may account for some of this but that may or may not be the issue here....haddnt thought of that one before.

but there is most definitly something going on as it really does make the car drive much nicer on the highway quieter too
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:08 PM   #17
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That's a huge gain in mpg for a tiny piece of plastic, doesn't seem possible in my experience.

For me, the prodrive lip made things a little less twitchy. Using w/ an APR splitter made the front end so grounded, the rear felt terrible . Gas mileage dropped with that setup.

V2 lip made about the same difference in reducing twitch at speed, but no noticeable change in mileage.

did ya ever notice the little flaps that stick down an inch or so in front of the front tires????

the manufacturers wouldnt install them if those tiny little pieces of plastic didnt do anything.....cheaper to leave them off....NO????

I think too many people just dont understand simple aerodynamic devices and how they work.
that's ok......ignorance and stupidity ARE encouraged in todays world.

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Old 04-06-2013, 12:23 AM   #18
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I am on my second lip, almost cracked it couple weeks ago.
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Its down to $56 from one of the eBay outfits.
I was just shopping for one of these for my Bugeye. Bugeye versions are $88. No love for Bugeye owners. lol

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its $57 SHIPPED now
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Old 04-08-2013, 03:04 AM   #20
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Its down to $56 from one of the eBay outfits.
I was just shopping for one of these for my Bugeye. Bugeye versions are $88. No love for Bugeye owners. lol
yeah...well...volume of production i guess...that and simplicity of manufacture....the lip for the 06-07 is pretty simple
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Old 04-08-2013, 12:01 PM   #21
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Oh yes. And $88 is still super cheap.

Whats the finish like on yours? matte/gloss? The ones on eBay look like they have a matte finish, but the JNA one (few bucks more) seems to have a semi-gloss finish.

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Old 04-08-2013, 10:05 PM   #22
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Oh yes. And $88 is still super cheap.

Whats the finish like on yours? matte/gloss? The ones on eBay look like they have a matte finish, but the JNA one (few bucks more) seems to have a semi-gloss finish.
the finish isnt glossy...semi-glossy maybe

it isnt flat, no.....and it is pretty even, too

im not gonna paint it or do anything else to it....its there until it departs or the car goes away or the dog chews it off or whatever

im gonna fix the side where i installed it a lil off and done...should take me all of a minute when i get 'round to it
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Old 04-08-2013, 11:40 PM   #23
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I'm uhh... not seeing any links or pics or anything, I'm assuming you're talking about a cheap splitter but..?
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Old 04-08-2013, 11:46 PM   #24
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Even adding 2 inches of vertical air dam will make a difference. There is not that much space to begin with so when you cut out 1/4 of it that's significant. I've been meaning to pick one up myself.
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:54 AM   #25
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Uncle Scotty, was your lip kind of deformed/not flat when it arrived and if so did you do any heating/baking to flatten it out or just install it? I got mine a couple weeks ago(in a full size box, but has a couple twists in it) but due to surgery on my foot I haven't gotten around to the install till now. Thanks in advance for your input
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