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Old 04-07-2013, 11:08 AM   #1
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I've been a NASIOC'er for quite some time. I lurk a lot and make the occasional snark here and there. I've have a tastefully modded 2006 WRX Wagon and a desirable 2005 STIi (the best vintage, IMO). I jumped over to MINI for a bit because I loved the tossability of a small FWD hatch and that revised engine was such a treat. Turbo, Forged internals, BMW VVT (whatever the corporate name for it is), DI. The car drove awesome. Add in those factory driving lights and a st of Rally Armour flaps and she was a proper back road bomber. But she was never meant to be a long term car. I kill cars with my job. 35K is an average year. I had to set her free.

Why Toyobaru?

Not FI. My first in almost 10 years. So much less to go wrong (yes, I understand it is a high compression motor with DI).

The dynamics of the car need no further praise. I've been fortunate enough to drive some high end cars on a few amazing roads. The 86 is amazing. I feel bad for the goobers that are going to throw extra wide wheels on this car. Think about it before you do it. If you are still thinking of doing it, sit down and think again.

So I went to my favorite Subaru dealer and they didn't have anything. I wanted a white BRZ at that point. I left there and retreated towards my lunch destination. In my distress I neglected to remember that this town had a very strong and reputable Toyota dealership. To keep this short, they made a strong deal, I was weakened in the legs by my test drive and she's gonna look like a mean bitch in that color. All parties were made happy.

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Old 04-07-2013, 11:44 AM   #2
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My BRZ was my first new car as well. I've bought a lot of cars, but never really wanted a brand new one until now. ^_^
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:58 PM   #3
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Without going into any more detail than you're comfortable with, can you explain how they dealt with you on the Scion Pure Pricing?
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:15 PM   #4
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Welcome! An FR-S is still a Subie, so no hate here! I appreciate your input on the tire width. I'm of the crowd that prefers a bit smaller width.

I look forward to your updates! Please share anything big or small! Any plans to swap to Toyota emblems?
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Old 04-07-2013, 02:14 PM   #5
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Without going into any more detail than you're comfortable with, can you explain how they dealt with you on the Scion Pure Pricing?
Killer trade in and I got the a warranty much cheaper.
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Old 04-07-2013, 02:15 PM   #6
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Any plans to swap to Toyota emblems?
Thought about it, but I've never been one to care about the badges. Are they direct swaps?
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Old 04-07-2013, 02:17 PM   #7
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Is there any reason not to do 17x8's with 235's?
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Old 04-07-2013, 04:21 PM   #8
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Is there any reason not to do 17x8's with 235's?
My thoughts are that the steering might be heavier and less communicative. There was an interview with one of the engineers who said he wouldn't go over 215 on the front tires. Wider rears might make it push a little, too.

I'm keeping it conservative until I see real world results.
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Old 04-08-2013, 02:15 AM   #9
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My thoughts are that the steering might be heavier and less communicative. There was an interview with one of the engineers who said he wouldn't go over 215 on the front tires. Wider rears might make it push a little, too.

I'm keeping it conservative until I see real world results.
Not sure but if I get one I'd be looking to get a new compound come tire time. Switching to a wider rim and michelin super sports jumped from .89 or .90 to 1.0 g. it was emunds or somebody. Don't think a wider rim is needed unless you get a bunch of power but just conjecture.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:46 PM   #10
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Looks great; really like that color.

FRS/BRZ/GT86, all the same. I just wish the FR-S had the LEDs.

What are the plans for the future?


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Old 04-12-2013, 12:13 PM   #11
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Well I got 7.5 wide with 225's when I traded my rotas off my wrx so I'll tell ya if 10mm makes any difference.


I definitely wouldn't go over 235's for weight and camber reasons.... Not to mention steering feel
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:16 PM   #12
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Not to mention steering feel
What steering feel? The steering on this car is TIGHT for certain, but it's numb as anything else. Quick, not overly light, pretty tight...but unless you got a different car than I do, there's not much feel.
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Old 04-13-2013, 12:32 AM   #13
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Idk what kind of feel your looking for then....

Steering and suspension is about the most praised thing on it.


It's very easy to tell what's going on and react. Compared to the wrx which was super light over active and as numb as a Camry, this is amazing. Very close to a second gen mr2
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Old 04-13-2013, 01:31 AM   #14
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Steering and suspension is about the most praised thing on it.
Hype. Suspension's great. Steering is tight. It's not in even in the same neighborhood as a manual rack though. Feeling your contact patch and what the tires is doing is one thing; feeling the road through the steering wheel is different.
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:34 AM   #15
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Idk I've driven a manual rack mr2 and I'm about to get one.... Didn't think it was that far off.



Hype maybe but numb no
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Old 04-13-2013, 05:46 PM   #16
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Looks great; really like that color.

FRS/BRZ/GT86, all the same. I just wish the FR-S had the LEDs.

What are the plans for the future?


-Dylan@P&L
Yeah, the lighting is the only downside, but I don't consider it to be a biggie for me. May go down the retrofit or BRZ swap lines in the future but I'll just upgrade the current bulbs. I actually like the stock housing. Maybe it's because I'm over 30 and HIDs and blacked out housings weren't around in my youth.

She'll get an exhaust, RA flaps (I know they don't flow well with the car but I am always driving tar/chip and back roads and she got her first tiny ding today from those roads), a nice dark tint and some good summer shoes.

I want her to be a back road menace and a casual auto-X car.

I really adore this car in it's current stock form so I am going to need quite a bit of seat time to sort out where I'd like to go, especially as far as suspension mods go. Engine and bolt on mods will likely never happen with the exception of an intake if I find one that is actually worth the upgrade.

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Old 04-15-2013, 04:03 AM   #17
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Looks good!
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Old 04-15-2013, 10:56 AM   #18
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I want to get a square 265 setup on my car soon. I will have no steering feel left.
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Old 04-20-2013, 12:34 PM   #19
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9.5 is square with 265's...
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:11 AM   #20
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I want to get a square 265 setup on my car soon. I will have no steering feel left.
Uh...what.
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Old 04-22-2013, 04:36 PM   #21
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Uh...what.
I already have 245s. It was a joke. There is plenty of steering feel north of 235s.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:42 PM   #22
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Idk it messed with the steering on my wrx I doubt it would be better on the BRZ...

But hey whatever you want.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:38 PM   #23
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Congrats. I traded in my blob eye, and the bought the FR-S a couple weeks ago. I agree with the tire width comment. I may eventually go for 225 at the rear, but I'm going to wait a couple years before I make the decision in order to keep my warranty valid just in case. I have been reading about some recent issues and recalls.
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Old 05-15-2013, 09:43 AM   #24
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I can understand the wide sticky rubber for autox or track use on these cars but there really is something to driving hard with the crappy little tires on it. I will probably end up somewhere in between: the Primacy rocks suck just a little too much, but doubt I need the near R-Comp grip of some of the stickier autox tires.
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Old 05-15-2013, 11:36 AM   #25
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I can understand the wide sticky rubber for autox or track use on these cars but there really is something to driving hard with the crappy little tires on it. I will probably end up somewhere in between: the Primacy rocks suck just a little too much, but doubt I need the near R-Comp grip of some of the stickier autox tires.
Both types of tires are fun on the street. Stock tires for that DORIFTO! feel and autocross/max/extreme performance summers for that go-kart feel. I hated the stock tires in the wet though...that was dangerous.
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