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Old 04-17-2013, 11:38 AM   #1
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I am moving to ND from Kansas... I have an 04 STi that i had planned on putting cobb sport springs on this weekend. However I am reconsidering since I am moving to ND. Should I avoid lowering the car any because of snow? I will be living in Grand Forks
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Old 04-17-2013, 12:13 PM   #2
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Yes, reconsider. With ice chunks, snow banks, salted/graveled roads, you may regret it. I used to live in Thief River Falls MN (45 miles NE of Grand Forks), for 15 years. I always saw the lowered cars having chunks of paint missing, stuck on the roads, or not driving till the snow is gone.
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Old 04-17-2013, 12:36 PM   #3
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Yeah ND definitely sucks for that. I just drove through coming back to washington from michigan and it was horrible. Id suggest moving to washington!
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:24 PM   #4
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I grew up in ND but on the western side where big oil boom is happening. The roads are rough there from the weather extremes (think cracks and potholes) and a lot of them are chip sealed so they can be hard on paint and windshield. Not exactly the best place to drive a car with lowered/stiff suspension or really any nice car.

And btw, ND is in the Midwest not the Northwest.
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:29 PM   #5
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you need to raise, not lower the vehicle
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:03 PM   #6
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Moved from NWIC to MWSOC.
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:52 AM   #7
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What takes you to Grand Forks? I was there this last August for a tour of the University of North Dakota's campus and aviation program. I'll be attending UND this fall, so I'll be making the move this summer.

Anyway, North Dakota is basically the only state with a budget surplus right now because of its own economy with the oil boom taking place. With that in mind and from what I noticed while visiting Grand Forks, the roads in town are in great condition. Compared to the roads in Spokane, which are nearly equivalent to most roads in Russia, Grand Forks' roads are nothing to worry about. I didn't see a single pothole while I was there, so road surface conditions are not a concern in town. Out of town, that's probably a different story.

On the other hand, weather conditions in the winter are your greatest concern. Like evenflow35 mentioned, a lowered car will not do any good in North Dakota because of the blizzards, snow banks, and ice.

Best advice I can give you is don't lower your car. Save your money and put some of it towards an engine block heater. Without one of these in North Dakota, your car won't even start during the harsh winters.
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:28 PM   #8
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2492302

You guys seem to be in the same boat....
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Old 04-18-2013, 06:47 PM   #9
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I am in the Air Force and Grand Forks is my new duty station :/ thanks for the advice guys. Ill look into potentially raising the car a little bit.
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Old 04-18-2013, 08:04 PM   #10
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Grand forks roads are some of the best in the state. And even they arent that good if your worried about the winter and the car turning into snow plow then save up and invest in some coils for adjustability...really cars in ND dont start in winter without block heater..well that was a dumb statement
Btw u dont need to raise car anymore than stock it will be more than enough
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:48 PM   #11
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420bugeye- Really? I am just trying to give VonElling good, straightforward advice. Block heaters were actually invented by a North Dakota man named Andrew Freeman back in the 1940s. That alone, says a lot. A majority of my family moved from North Dakota, so I've had all of this explained to me on numerous occasions. It's not like I don't know anything. If you don't agree with someone on here, that's fine, but don't be rude about it.

Anyway...
I watched the temps in Grand Forks this winter and I saw a lot of single-digit temps and a handful of negative double-digit temps. At any temp below 20F, a block heater can really make a difference in how easily a car will start. When I said a car won't start without a block heater, that was merely an exaggeration. It’s just easier on the engine because cold gas doesn’t vaporize and mix with air as well, a cold engine has to use a bunch more fuel when it starts cold. By starting with a warmer engine block, far less gas is used. Some people can get by with parking in a garage and using a good battery. Personally, when I move over this summer I'm going to get a block heater for my car, but's that's because I'll most likely be living in an apartment.
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Old 04-20-2013, 10:01 AM   #12
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Bring 93 gas with.....................last time I went thru they only had 87-89.......
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:27 AM   #13
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Well I returned my lowering springs and ordered a block heater and battery warmer. 73$ for both of them, so it's worth the sense of security. I threw a set of conti DWS on the car also.
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Old 04-21-2013, 03:21 AM   #14
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Well I returned my lowering springs and ordered a block heater and battery warmer. 73$ for both of them, so it's worth the sense of security. I threw a set of conti DWS on the car also.
Conti dws are good, but I would look into a set of dedicated snow tires(read: something like hakkas) for winter. Not gonna be an absolute, but dedicated snow tires just work better on snow/ice.
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:39 PM   #15
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Hey I know this is a little old but lowering springs are fine to have in grand forks. I have coils for the summer and stock springs with lowering springs for the summer and it's perfect, i never have any trouble. And snow tires are a must for the snow haha. But when you move to grand forks let me know maybe have a little get together and cruise or something.
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:16 PM   #16
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We should see how many are interested in a central No Dak meet sometime.
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