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Old 11-20-2011, 11:14 PM   #1
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I have yet to see many Borg Warner setups in my short time on NASIOC, but in the Honda world, they are quite prevalent. I have an S256 .70ar on my built GSR and I'm quite fond of the turbo.

Does anyone make a non-rotated, bolt-up S256/S258 for a Subaru flange? More importantly, does anyone run either of these turbos? If so, what kind or power and response do you get from it? The turbo is a little big for responsive street driving in my GSR and i'm hoping to avoid the same issue with my STi
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Old 11-20-2011, 11:21 PM   #2
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bolt on? no.
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Old 11-21-2011, 12:17 AM   #3
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I have yet to see many Borg Warner setups in my short time on NASIOC, but in the Honda world, they are quite prevalent. I have an S256 .70ar on my built GSR and I'm quite fond of the turbo.

Does anyone make a non-rotated, bolt-up S256/S258 for a Subaru flange? More importantly, does anyone run either of these turbos? If so, what kind or power and response do you get from it? The turbo is a little big for responsive street driving in my GSR and i'm hoping to avoid the same issue with my STi
I actually run the s200sx-56 or well the full race 7670 version, same specs as the efr but non ball bearing and what not, with the .83 t4 twinscroll housing its a great daily on a 2.0, im making 20psi in 4th ( on am sti 6 speed) at 4300 so I would say 20psi around 3800-4000, would probably be faster with the SS T3
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Old 11-21-2011, 05:44 PM   #4
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^^Does that require a rotated setup? I just started researching my turbocharger options and I have had good experiences with BW in the past (in the Honda scene where nothing is car-specific). Borg Warner/ Bullseye power tend to produce only generic T3 or T4 turbine housings, but i was hopeful that maybe another company produced a Subaru-specific turbine housing (much like how Tial made their own versions of various GT series turbines)
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:06 PM   #5
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got to go rotated if you want to run a Borg. no one makes any stock flange housings as of yet.
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:10 PM   #6
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I have yet to see many Borg Warner setups in my short time on NASIOC, but in the Honda world, they are quite prevalent. I have an S256 .70ar on my built GSR and I'm quite fond of the turbo.

Does anyone make a non-rotated, bolt-up S256/S258 for a Subaru flange? More importantly, does anyone run either of these turbos? If so, what kind or power and response do you get from it? The turbo is a little big for responsive street driving in my GSR and i'm hoping to avoid the same issue with my STi
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:54 PM   #7
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got to go rotated if you want to run a Borg. no one makes any stock flange housings as of yet.
Damn...Does anyone make an up-pipe (or pipe from the manifolds to the turbocharger) with a T3 flange rather than the standard Subaru flange? Or does a rotated setup do more than simply turn the turbocharger? I'm going to research more on rotated setups....this may end up being the route I go if it isn't terribly difficult. I already have an S256 .70ar v-band at home for a different car

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Old 11-21-2011, 08:26 PM   #8
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Damn...Does anyone make an up-pipe (or pipe from the manifolds to the turbocharger) with a T3 flange rather than the standard Subaru flange? Or does a rotated setup do more than simply turn the turbocharger? I'm going to research more on rotated setups....
ultimate racing is where i got mine. you can order it with a t3 or t4 flange, stock manifold flange or 3 bolt and what ever size and style wastegate flange you want. then i made my own downpipe
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Old 11-22-2011, 12:36 AM   #9
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Awesome. If i can get a T3 flanged up-pipe for a good price, I can probably save enough money buying a standard flange turbo to offset the cost. Hell, a new S258 is only ~$1200 and when compared to a Blouch or most FP turbos, that's a bargain. I miss the S256 spool of my integra...now maybe my STi can have a Borg as well. Thanks for the help!
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:30 AM   #10
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Awesome. If i can get a T3 flanged up-pipe for a good price, I can probably save enough money buying a standard flange turbo to offset the cost. Hell, a new S258 is only ~$1200 and when compared to a Blouch or most FP turbos, that's a bargain. I miss the S256 spool of my integra...now maybe my STi can have a Borg as well. Thanks for the help!
The s200sx series version only runs around 600 in standard form And I think with the 4 inch inlet And all That jazz from full race Is only like. 850
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Old 11-22-2011, 09:24 AM   #11
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True, you can get them for less, but I dont believe those are the ETT Schwitzer line. If they are, that's even better

For the price, I dont believe its the same turbo i'm looking to buy. The standard compressor wheel vs the ETT is similar to comparing a 57 trim garrett turbo to a GT3076R...they have similar physical dimensions but are vastly different turbos both in price and performance.

I'm essentially looking for this (without the ridiculous bling turbine housing) http://www.bullseyepower.com/S200.asp
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:59 AM   #12
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True, you can get them for less, but I dont believe those are the ETT Schwitzer line. If they are, that's even better

For the price, I dont believe its the same turbo i'm looking to buy. The standard compressor wheel vs the ETT is similar to comparing a 57 trim garrett turbo to a GT3076R...they have similar physical dimensions but are vastly different turbos both in price and performance.

I'm essentially looking for this (without the ridiculous bling turbine housing) http://www.bullseyepower.com/S200.asp
actually they are, i have one on my car, feel free to check out my build thread, or full race, i have a 207 2.0 and make 20 psi by 4300 rpms in 4th on an sti tranny, honestly everything i have seen from the smalled SS turbos is that they drop off up top, and really dont spool any better, also the s200sx-56 is the same compressor and turbine dimensions as the new 7670


http://www.full-race.com/store/turbo...670-turbo.html

http://www.himni-racing.com/index.ph...mnaiqavpjh9632

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2135882



also if you look garrett is now starting to put the smaller compressor wheel with the bigger turbine, ( i guess they are seeing that precision and borg know what they are doing )
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I'm going to install BW S251 on JDM EJ207. I already have S251 with 1.0A/R and I think it will has huge lag. Does anyone make <=0.75 A/R twin scroll housing for S200 BW turbos?
I'm outside of US and AGP Turbo does not sell it to non US residents :O
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