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Old 04-22-2013, 12:56 PM   #1
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Default Camber Plates vs. Bolts for a Lift

I was doing a bunch of research and just came to an impass. I am putting foz suspension onto my gc and was wondering a few things.

Plates vs bolts. Seems like recommended is bolts if you don't need to adjust often, but I would imagine plates are stronger and I am planning on taking this vehicle off roads at times but mostly road driven.

Brands of plates or bolts. This part is mainly for fitting the tires into the fender, and for strength depending on use.

Can someone recommend me some good camber plates or bolts for a GC chassis? I was looking at whiteline for both.... also a vendor or place to buy. I want to do this right the first time because suspension should be done right anyway and I hate my coils right now on these crappy philly roads.

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Old 04-22-2013, 01:10 PM   #2
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You want to talk to MSI for anything remotely strong and able to handle rally/offroad.

They do have a great budget camber plate that is very robust. TiC sells it and it's <$300. Its adjustment mechanism wont slip.
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Great info, so you def recommend plates over bolts? I was looking at those msi plates actually they're pretty hefty. Wld the cps then take place of top hats or do I need them too?

Sorry for noob questions but thx for advice!
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Old 04-22-2013, 05:42 PM   #4
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The factory camber bolt since it has to be torqued to such a high value, rarely slips short of an accident with a curb. Aftermarket bolts tend to slip after hitting a large pothole due to their low torque values.

I say, get what you can with the factory bolt, then look at adding a camber plate. Like I said the budget TiC/MSI unit is beefy, wont slip and the bearing is replaceable.
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Excellent that matches my thoughts so is the route I will take. Is there a reason I only see the fronts on tic?
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Simple comparison.... is anyone running the whiteline plates?

Also are f&r recommended or just the fronts? thx again
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The Whiteline plates are not recommended for your application. We have tried to use them on rallyx cars, but the bearings don't last more than an event or two.

The MSI plates will work well in the front. There are no plates that are available in the rear currently as there are no spring perches to make to factory style springs. Group N would be the best way to go.

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Thanks tony, excellent info! Do the plates essentially replace susp top hats?

The reason is remember that the new suspension is 06/07 forester springs/struts and I have coils now with NO ORIGINAL SUSPENSION equip avail.

Just want to make sure I get to procom with all the right parts avail at hand so we're not left with a hitch halfway through the build.
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Last question do camber plates replace top hats or do they work in tandem? Can I separate/reuse the ones from my coils?

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They replace.
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Got the msi front strut mounts, which brand for rear?

Monroe
Mevotech
Raybestos
Kyb
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Anyone have any experience with any of those companies above for the rears!?
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Kyb and moog have always been reliable brands.
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thats what I was thinking... is moog significantly better than kyb?

at $44 for moog and $29 for kyb either one is priced appropriate
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