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Old 04-17-2013, 05:43 PM   #126
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What about turbo cool down time? Is the time you want to idle the car after hard driving extended? Or does it cool off at the same rate?
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:39 PM   #127
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What about turbo cool down time? Is the time you want to idle the car after hard driving extended? Or does it cool off at the same rate?
I would say that a couple minutes of cool down idling would be good. I always let mine idle for a minute or two regardless of the type of driving. I dont have any comparison data for this though.

I have however watched the bare turbo with the infrared camera while it has been idling after some aggressive runs. There is "sweet spot" so to speak of time. I watched a bare turbo at 550F idle down to 400F in that couple of minutes.





The normal operating temperature of the bare turbo at idle is around 350F, until driven then it wont dip much below 380F-400F at idle.

Extended idle times can raise the temp back above 400F.
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Old 04-19-2013, 04:38 PM   #128
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^ I'm using the same, minus the gold bling. Definitely makes a difference.

P.S. Hero, you're the reason I started wrapping my st00fs. Love the pics you've been taking
Thanks man! Glad to hear it, hopefully there will be many more infrared tests to come
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:13 PM   #129
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there are zero negative effects from running a turbo blanket.

http://www.ptpturboblankets.com/faqs.php

http://www.ptpturboblankets.com/why_turbo_blankets.php

above is some FAQ's for ptp turbo blankets, PM me if you would like to get your hands on one.
I find it funny that you quote the people trying to sell them as proof for product quality.

That's like expecting Coca-Cola to distribute info on how you'll get fat from the sugar in it.

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Old 04-19-2013, 10:38 PM   #130
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with today turbos, the real reason to let them idle a few seconds is to make sure the turbine is not still spinning (or spinning fast)
spinning with no oil pressure is bad.

i think this is correct... but others may have input.
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Old 04-20-2013, 02:44 PM   #131
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I find it funny that you quote the people trying to sell them as proof for product quality.

That's like expecting Coca-Cola to distribute info on how you'll get fat from the sugar in it.
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Old 04-20-2013, 02:47 PM   #132
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Trolling? I'm pointing out that biased information is biased.
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:29 PM   #133
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with today turbos, the real reason to let them idle a few seconds is to make sure the turbine is not still spinning (or spinning fast)
spinning with no oil pressure is bad.

i think this is correct... but others may have input.
*quoted from PTP's FAQ section*

There is a misconception that the heat retained by the turbo blanket will cause damage to the turbocharger. This is not correct. Turbochargers are designed to handle well in excess of peak engine exhaust temperatures. Maintaining the heat of the exhaust within the turbocharger will not damage the turbocharger. However, as with all turbocharged vehicles, whether utilizing OEM or aftermarket turbochargers, it is very important to not shut off the engine directly after periods of heavy acceleration. It is advised by us, as well as all OEM and aftermarket turbocharger manufacturers, to allow a period of time to let the oil (and in some cases water) circulate and cool the turbocharger. We recommend that before shutting off the vehicle after periods of heavy acceleration, you should allow one to two minutes of idling to allow the turbocharger to cool down effectively. You may also consider purchasing a turbo timer to allow the engine to idle for a predetermined amount of time after you have left and locked your vehicle.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:31 PM   #134
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*quoted from PTP's FAQ section*

There is a misconception that the heat retained by the turbo blanket will cause damage to the turbocharger. This is not correct. Turbochargers are designed to handle well in excess of peak engine exhaust temperatures. Maintaining the heat of the exhaust within the turbocharger will not damage the turbocharger. However, as with all turbocharged vehicles, whether utilizing OEM or aftermarket turbochargers, it is very important to not shut off the engine directly after periods of heavy acceleration. It is advised by us, as well as all OEM and aftermarket turbocharger manufacturers, to allow a period of time to let the oil (and in some cases water) circulate and cool the turbocharger. We recommend that before shutting off the vehicle after periods of heavy acceleration, you should allow one to two minutes of idling to allow the turbocharger to cool down effectively. You may also consider purchasing a turbo timer to allow the engine to idle for a predetermined amount of time after you have left and locked your vehicle.
You are quoting generic information. I'd advise you find another website or thirty to read.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:44 PM   #135
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You are quoting generic information. I'd advise you find another website or thirty to read.
Well he's clearly helping to sell them. The big question is if your cynicism is warranted or not.

I actually turn my car off in mid-WOT since my subzero ice water fed turbo can handle it.

So what's the real truth these days? People get so obsessed with calling each other wrong that they neglect to provide the right answer.
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:11 PM   #136
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Well he's clearly helping to sell them. The big question is if your cynicism is warranted or not.

I actually turn my car off in mid-WOT since my subzero ice water fed turbo can handle it.

So what's the real truth these days? People get so obsessed with calling each other wrong that they neglect to provide the right answer.
I didn't call him wrong. I said he should stop quoting salesmen. That's good advice. I cannot provide the right answers since I am an agnostic.

I agree with you wholeheartedly though. Seems as though everybody is obsessed with being right most don't want outside information. I'm in this thread for information myself.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:34 AM   #137
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I didn't call him wrong. I said he should stop quoting salesmen. That's good advice. I cannot provide the right answers since I am an agnostic.

I agree with you wholeheartedly though. Seems as though everybody is obsessed with being right most don't want outside information. I'm in this thread for information myself.
And what happens when someone quotes factual information from a website trying to sell its product? It does not change that information from being factual. Advice like that is only good when you have an opposing fact to prove the salesmen are wrong.

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Old 04-26-2013, 07:40 PM   #138
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Edit: this is not important and really going nowhere.

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Old 04-26-2013, 08:05 PM   #139
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If I have found the that the detailed analysis, information and FLIR images the HeroCrank has assembled are informational and informative, is it wrong that I went ahead and supported him with a purchase? I think not.

I am enjoying my PTP Lava Turbo Blanket.
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Old 04-27-2013, 04:07 PM   #140
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Finally installed mine. I was able to wrap and place the OEM heat shield back on without issue.

Biggest problem was the ratcheting wrench I dropped, slid right to the middle of the engine bay out of sight. good thing I had another. Took me a quick drive and some time up on rhino ramps until I pulled down the cowling off the bottom and finally found it. Getting that thing out was a moment of joy.

I found the only extra bolt I needed to take off was for the power steering bracket. Without pushing that out of the way I'd have never gotten to the two bottom bolts on the heat shield.

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Old 05-26-2013, 12:39 PM   #141
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I've been seeing a lot of new faces around here with new cars the past few weeks. The thermal questions are starting up again and I encourage you all to research before you buy and ask as many questions as you can. Ill bump the infrared testing threads and please contact me if you have any questions.
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Old 05-26-2013, 10:42 PM   #142
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Great bump to something I've been meaning to do but keep forgetting.

I just re-read this thread and thought of the TMIC. Essentially, everyone wants a turbo blanket to reduce underhood temperatures. But for me, the end state is to reduce the heatsoak and temperature of the TMIC, both at idle and after a few hard acceleration runs.

Herocrank, do you have any of this data - temperature readings of the TMIC at idle and after a few runs with this new turbo blanket? That's key for me. You've clearly already shown how much this blanket reduces the temperature on top of the Grimmspeed heatshield but I feel the TMIC is where it is important.
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Old 05-27-2013, 01:55 PM   #143
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Great bump to something I've been meaning to do but keep forgetting.

I just re-read this thread and thought of the TMIC. Essentially, everyone wants a turbo blanket to reduce underhood temperatures. But for me, the end state is to reduce the heatsoak and temperature of the TMIC, both at idle and after a few hard acceleration runs.

Herocrank, do you have any of this data - temperature readings of the TMIC at idle and after a few runs with this new turbo blanket? That's key for me. You've clearly already shown how much this blanket reduces the temperature on top of the Grimmspeed heatshield but I feel the TMIC is where it is important.
I do have that kind of data, ill post up some images tonight. The infrared testing thread number 5 with the process west tmic I think shows this with the lava blanket.
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Old 05-30-2013, 10:15 PM   #144
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If I have found the that the detailed analysis, information and FLIR images the HeroCrank has assembled are informational and informative, is it wrong that I went ahead and supported him with a purchase? I think not.

I am enjoying my PTP Lava Turbo Blanket.
Really appreciate the support and I am glad you liked the thread. Enjoy your blanket this summer!
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I do have that kind of data, ill post up some images tonight. The infrared testing thread number 5 with the process west tmic I think shows this with the lava blanket.
It's been awhile and I just got back to looking for a turbo blanket and remembered this thread. I meant do you have comparison temperatures of the TMIC - idle and runs - with & without this lava turbo blanket?
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Old 10-24-2014, 01:38 AM   #146
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The Titanium Exhaust Wrap - twill is constructed from fragmentized lava rock that is extruded into the fibers to create a heat wrap that will give you strength and performance you expect from an exhaust header wrap.

When properly installed, the proprietary weave in our heat wrap will allow an even dissipation of heat so that it will not over insulate your pipings or create any hot spots.

Titanium Exhaust Wrap - twill promotes increased flow and keeps down underhood temperatures for improved performance and reduced vibration breakdown.

Titanium Exhaust Wrap - twill is chemical and oil resistant that will not shrink or loose flexibility under extreme conditions. Titanium Exhaust Wrap is very easy to install and tightens down onto pipings without needing to be wet.

Lava Heat Wrap Tolerance:
Direct Contact Use Limit: 1800F / 982C
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Old 10-24-2014, 01:39 AM   #147
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The turbo blanket isolates the heat produced by your turbocharger, and prevents that heat from damaging, or even igniting, components surrounding the turbocharger within your engine compartment, such as plastic and rubber hoses and electrical wiring, as well as painted surfaces, such as the engine bay and the surface of the hood. Also, it prevents areas of localized high temperature from damaging the engine itself.

In keeping the exhaust gases within the turbocharger hot, turbocharger efficiency is improved. As you may know, the hotter a gas is, the more expansive it is. Within a contained system of a specified size, the more expansive a gas is, the greater the pressure derived and thus, the greater the flow of gas to escape the containment. With this increased pressure and flow rate for a given engine RPM, the acceleration of the turbocharger's impeller is increased as compared to the same turbocharger with the engine at the same RPM but with cooler exhaust gases. This equates to faster spool up of the turbocharger, as well as greater attainable levels of boost. What a driver will experience with a turbo blanket is greater turbocharger responsiveness. The faster spool up of the turbocharger means less turbo lag and a more linear power curve.

As you may know, it is very important to keep engine intake air cool. This is why intercoolers are often utilized with turbochargers. Similar to above, the cooler a gas is (such as intake air), the more dense it is. The more dense the intake air, the more oxygen it contains per unit volume. The more oxygen reaches the engine, the more power can be obtained. In keeping the heat of the exhaust gases contained within the hot side of the turbocharger and away from the cool side of the turbocharger and the intake path, more oxygen per unit volume reaches the engine, and thus, more power.
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