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Old 04-25-2010, 02:17 AM   #101
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So...I had issues with this, but here is what I was able to pull off.
No manifold relative pressure option.
I forgot throttle position.
Take a look, let me know what to do differently and I'll go do it again better!
Also, if you can recommend a better way to display the data let me know.
Seconds (sec) RPM (RPM) Boost (PSI) Turbo Dynamics (PSI) Air/Fuel Ratio (AFR) Inj. Duty Cycle (%) Mass Airflow (g/s) Vehicle Speed (mph)
2nd Gear
1.55 1963 -7.11 -2.34 14.95 5.56 22.84 21.75
1.75 2084 -5.37 -3.42 14.03 6.25 27.25 21.75
1.96 2200 -3.48 -3.14 14.49 8.05 34.25 21.75
2.16 2342 -2.47 -1.64 14.49 9.55 44.03 21.75
2.36 2521 -0.29 7.47 14.38 11.95 54.48 21.75
2.6 2692 0.44 15.07 13.11 12.66 63.17 21.75
2.84 2739 1.16 16.26 13.57 13.21 68.11 22.99
3.09 2783 1.6 16.29 14.26 13.09 69.18 22.99
3.29 2902 2.03 17.05 13.34 16.86 75.13 24.23
3.5 2973 2.32 17.37 12.07 17.16 78.67 24.23
3.7 3046 2.61 17.39 11.96 18.25 82.65 24.23
3.9 3106 2.76 17.16 11.85 18.54 83.67 26.72
4.14 3170 3.05 16.83 12.07 19.07 87.12 26.72
4.38 3243 3.34 16.55 12.31 20.19 90.98 28.58
4.63 3299 3.63 16.31 12.31 21.23 94.12 28.58
4.83 3382 3.92 16.04 12.07 20.68 94.71 31.07
5.04 3466 4.21 15.77 11.96 22.17 101.77 31.07
5.24 3540 4.5 15.51 12.07 23.38 104.88 32.93
5.45 3610 4.64 15.27 12.07 24.65 110.29 32.93
5.65 3705 5.08 14.89 11.15 25.24 111.1 36.04
5.86 3784 5.37 14.61 11.27 26.77 117.87 36.04
6.06 3893 5.66 14.32 11.15 28.18 124.11 36.04
6.27 3991 6.09 13.92 11.15 29.68 126.16 38.52
6.47 4080 6.53 13.47 11.15 30.97 135.23 38.52
6.67 4173 7.11 12.88 11.15 32.89 139.9 41.01
6.91 4284 7.69 12.31 11.15 35.93 156.03 41.01
7.15 4440 8.56 11.44 11.15 37.75 164.48 43.5
7.4 4574 9.57 10.41 11.15 41.12 179.69 43.5
7.6 4656 10.44 9.61 11.15 42.86 186.07 46.6
7.81 4798 11.46 8.65 11.15 45.49 200.27 46.6
8.01 4906 12.62 7.33 11.15 50.36 212.87 49.71
8.22 5059 13.63 6.23 11.15 54.19 230 49.71
8.42 5198 14.94 5.15 11.15 57.87 247.58 49.71
8.62 5305 16.1 4 11.15 62.51 261.83 52.82
8.86 5423 17.26 2.65 11.15 65.51 280.59 52.82
9.1 5576 18.56 1.36 11.15 70.68 307.45 56.54
9.35 5698 19 1.02 11.15 71.75 307.45 56.54
9.55 5849 18.56 1.33 11.15 67.17 307.45 60.27
9.76 5927 18.42 1.52 11.15 68.12 299.54 60.27
9.96 6006 9.14 -7.3 11.15 34.02 123.97 64
10.17 5619 -10.73 -0.1 11.5 6.05 12.77 64

3rd Gear
0.61 1810 -10.88 1.06 20.35 2.7 7.25 38.52
0.82 2051 -7.69 -0.66 20.35 6.26 27.73 37.9
1.02 2371 -2.47 -0.68 20.35 10.71 46.65 37.9
1.22 2542 -0.29 4.57 17.48 12.02 58.57 37.9
1.46 2717 0.87 9.13 13.91 14.53 68.82 37.9
1.72 2816 2.32 8.69 12.53 16.87 77.57 38.52
1.93 2942 3.77 9.26 11.85 18.53 86.78 38.52
2.12 3051 5.22 12.58 11.85 21.45 97.59 39.15
2.34 3140 6.96 11.72 11.39 24.27 110.29 39.15
2.56 3273 9.28 10.72 11.15 27.92 127.04 39.15
2.78 3397 12.18 8.53 11.15 34.41 153.47 40.39
2.99 3829 15.81 4.65 11.15 48.65 200.27 40.39
3.2 4382 20.01 0.5 11.15 59.04 242.01 41.63
3.39 4617 20.3 -0.15 11.15 57.28 248.87 41.63
3.62 4679 18.42 1.68 11.15 55.45 245.87 44.74
3.81 4824 20.01 0.27 11.15 62.03 269.59 44.74
4.02 4962 20.45 -0.42 11.15 60.66 267.47 47.22
4.23 5061 18.85 1.17 11.15 61.07 262.04 47.22
4.46 5227 20.3 -0.14 11.15 67.16 290.98 51.57
4.67 5391 21.03 -0.82 11.15 70.72 305.46 51.57
4.88 5456 19.29 0.57 11.15 64.5 279.65 51.57
5.07 5578 19.29 0.89 11.15 69.66 307.45 55.3
5.3 5665 20.01 0.38 11.15 72.12 312.73 55.3
5.51 5797 20.3 -0.19 11.15 72.41 324.62 59.65
5.72 5966 19.72 0.19 11.15 72.27 316.69 59.65
5.93 6142 19.29 0.89 11.15 74.14 327.92 63.38

4rd Gear
0 2437 -0.73 4.45 17.6 11.06 52.78 38.52
0.22 2644 0.15 8.38 14.03 13.04 62.8 38.52
0.44 2793 1.45 9.89 12.99 16.75 72.32 39.15
0.66 2900 2.76 13.52 11.5 18.58 82.48 39.15
0.87 3005 4.21 13.22 11.5 19.5 91.57 39.15
1.09 3120 5.95 12.11 11.61 22.65 103.55 39.15
1.29 3209 7.98 10.25 11.15 27.03 120.1 40.39
1.5 3348 10.01 8.47 11.15 30.92 139.31 40.39
1.72 3529 13.05 5.58 11.15 37.26 164.28 41.63
1.94 3717 15.81 2.78 11.15 44.11 192.55 41.63
2.13 3857 16.97 1.36 11.15 48.13 206.77 41.63
2.35 3931 17.26 1.97 11.15 45.39 199.86 44.74
2.55 3911 17.55 2.01 11.15 47.62 204.74 44.74
2.76 3975 18.27 1.63 11.15 47.2 210.02 47.22
2.98 4034 18.42 1.62 11.15 47.46 219.42 47.22
3.2 4093 19.14 1.07 11.15 49.12 223.57 50.95
3.39 4112 18.71 1.36 11.27 51.1 223.57 50.95
3.61 4190 18.85 1.13 11.15 52.85 224.43 54.06
3.81 4633 19.43 0.77 11.15 55.55 242.87 54.06
4.02 5391 19.14 0.77 11.15 68.46 295.58 54.06
4.24 5584 20.3 -0.29 11.15 73.86 321.97 57.17
4.44 5654 20.16 -0.21 11.15 72.93 321.31 57.17
4.65 5790 20.45 -0.43 11.15 76.07 330.56 60.27
4.87 5892 20.01 -0.12 11.15 74.27 314.05 60.27
5.09 6099 19.72 0.45 11.15 74.42 324.62 63.38


Even in 4th gear you hit 15 psi by 3700 rpms, obviously the dyno calculates rpm by wheel speed (which is only accurate when the torque converter is locked up).

Either way, it just shows how autos (though I hate them unless they are twin-clutch) work very well with turbos.
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Old 04-25-2010, 04:37 PM   #102
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i'll have my 2.5xtr on this next weekend hopefully as well as start tuning. ill post up results. From the plots i have seen i am really excited. Went with 3" inlet and good supporting mods;
Tanabe Concept G tbe
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My only concern is heatsoak that why i chose meth, if its an issue ill probably go fmic small core.
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Old 04-26-2010, 01:34 AM   #103
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are you going to have hood clearance with those 8mm spacers

what are you shooting for and on what kind of dyno? I'll guestimate 440+ on a mustang dyno
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Old 04-26-2010, 01:38 AM   #104
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Yeah I don't think it will be a problem
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Old 04-26-2010, 11:06 AM   #105
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With our altitude and crap gas, I am guessing 350whp on a conservative tune
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Old 04-26-2010, 11:32 AM   #106
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Well ill be happy with 350 on stock block for now. As long as response is quick and pulls hard ill be thrilled
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:56 PM   #107
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Blouch 2.5XT-R with e85
what do you guys think injectors wise??
can i use 850cc and fpr??
or 1000cc
and whp??
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:56 PM   #108
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Well ill be happy with 350 on stock block for now. As long as response is quick and pulls hard ill be thrilled
i was running stock block and tmic and hit 362 on 93, you should break that easy
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Old 04-26-2010, 11:08 PM   #109
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Blouch 2.5XT-R with e85
what do you guys think injectors wise??
can i use 850cc and fpr??
or 1000cc
and whp??
1000cc, no point in going any smaller. If you ever plan on upgrading again, and have the money, I'd say 2000cc. WHP will depend on the dyno.
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1000cc, no point in going any smaller. If you ever plan on upgrading again, and have the money, I'd say 2000cc. WHP will depend on the dyno.
thank you sir
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Old 04-30-2010, 11:18 PM   #111
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Here is another 2nd gear pull. I'm getting a feel for the throttle.
AP is not playing nice....
Seconds (sec) RPM (RPM) Calculated Load (load) Dyn. Adv. Mult. (DAM) Ignition Adv. (deg) Dynamic Adv. (deg) Boost (PSI) Wastegate Duty (%) MAF Voltage (V) Fuel Trim (Long) (%)
3.19 1890 0.97 0.81 22.5 -0.5 0 53.31 2.38 3.12
3.38 2059 1.08 0.81 22 0 0.29 77.22 2.4 3.12
3.6 2130 1.13 0.81 21 0.5 0.58 89.77 2.48 3.12
3.8 2192 1.15 0.81 20.5 0.5 0.87 89.77 2.5 1.56
4 2275 1.18 0.81 20 1 1.16 89.77 2.54 0.78
4.2 2386 1.22 0.81 19 1 1.45 89.77 2.62 0
4.4 2508 1.28 0.81 18.5 1.5 1.89 84.28 2.68 -0.78
4.6 2672 1.32 0.81 18.5 2 2.18 76.83 2.7 -0.78
4.79 2830 1.36 0.81 19.5 3 2.61 64.68 2.84 -1.56
4.99 2963 1.39 0.81 19.5 3 3.05 57.23 2.9 -2.34
5.19 3141 1.42 0.81 19.5 3.5 3.48 48.22 2.98 -3.12
5.38 3336 1.48 0.81 20 3.5 4.21 44.69 3.1 -3.12
5.6 3598 1.58 0.81 19.5 4 5.22 44.69 3.26 -3.91
5.8 3897 1.78 0.81 19.5 5.5 6.82 44.69 3.48 -3.91
5.99 4160 2.03 0.81 17 5 9.28 45.08 3.7 -4.69
6.19 4575 2.32 0.81 15.5 5 12.47 45.86 4.04 -4.69
6.39 4916 2.79 0.81 13.5 5.5 17.11 49 4.3 -4.69
6.58 5488 2.97 0.81 12 4 19.43 53.31 4.52 -5.47
6.8 5910 3.17 0.81 8.5 3 20.59 54.1 4.62 -5.47
7 6196 3.08 0.81 13 4 20.74 53.7 4.64 -5.47
7.19 6563 2.99 0.81 15.5 4 20.3 47.04 4.66 -7.81
7.42 5905 2.94 0.81 7.5 4 18.56 49.78 4.42 -7.81
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Im going to be running this turbo soon. Getting tuned on the 18th of september at IAG. Ill post the results after its done.
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We just tuned the 2.5 on a BAJA. The owner is very pleased and hopes to get it to the track soon.
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Anybody tried the twinscroll 2.5 from Blouch yet?
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We just tuned the 2.5 on a BAJA. The owner is very pleased and hopes to get it to the track soon.
What were the awhp and awtq numbers?
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Anybody tried the twinscroll 2.5 from Blouch yet?
The what now? Linky?
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hi guys
i almost finish my set up on my wrx wagon 2002 EDM
with 2.5 short block and cosworth internal
272 BC and springs
APS inlet ductpipe with 65mm cold ram
TMIC APS
800 cc power entreprise
4 in 1 HKS
DP aps 3.5
UP invidia and catback invidia
the turbo is a very nice BPT 2.5 XTR with 3"inlet
i totaly warped the hot side of the turbo
TGV deleted home made

full boost 3250 rpm still strong to 7500
gearbox STI RA 5 speed

power??... yes around a strong 390whp at 19psi
i'm waiting to put the iat and map from AEM to tune the car

see you guys
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Got any Dyno sheets? sounds great!
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hi guys
i almost finish my set up on my wrx wagon 2002 EDM
with 2.5 short block and cosworth internal
272 BC and springs
APS inlet ductpipe with 65mm cold ram
TMIC APS
800 cc power entreprise
4 in 1 HKS
DP aps 3.5
UP invidia and catback invidia
the turbo is a very nice BPT 2.5 XTR with 3"inlet
i totaly warped the hot side of the turbo
TGV deleted home made

full boost 3250 rpm still strong to 7500
gearbox STI RA 5 speed

power??... yes around a strong 390whp at 19psi
i'm waiting to put the iat and map from AEM to tune the car

see you guys
I have a similar build, mine has just been a slow and steady climb! Slow mostly!

Stock block EJ255
99.5 Cosworth Pistons
Manley H Beam Rods
ARP Case Bolts
Cosworth Head Studs
2012 Oil and Water pump
GCS Stage 2 Cams
Fully Ported Heads
+1mm Ferea Valves
GCS Beehive Springs, titanium Retainers
TVG Deletes
Ported Intake Maniford
Ported Throttle Body
Billet Fuel Rails
ID 1000 injectors
Blouch 2.5XTR 3" Inlet 10cm Housing (Wahoo!)
APS 3" Hard Inlet
Cobb turbo back
GSpec UEL Header
(all the porting was done by me! Minus the heads they were flow benched)

I have no Idea what the numbers will be but Im hoping in the 370 range... I am also hoping it will be reliable as hell!
This has been almost 2yrs in the making! Far too long!
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I have no Idea what the numbers will be but Im hoping in the 370 range... I am also hoping it will be reliable as hell!
This has been almost 2yrs in the making! Far too long!
Don't worry, you'll love it when its done, even with our poopy 91oct fuel.
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