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Old 04-28-2013, 01:08 AM   #76
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I have a 18g xt on my car and i like it as a DD because it is has a little bit of lag so i can stay out of boost easy when driving around but also has the power i want when i roll into it.Im pretty sure i get a little better mpgs to just because im stay alot more out of boost then before where just accelerating to 55 with the flow of traffic required 4-5 psi
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:38 AM   #77
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^you are driving the wrong car if MPG are a concern.
I get 28 mpg on the highway and around 18 around town. I don't mind burning fuel when I want to step on it, but a tune like the prodrive one would eat gas for breakfast, lunch and dinner with a few snacks in between.

It would be awesome for auto-x though
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Old 04-28-2013, 02:21 PM   #78
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well I didn't drive that new turbo more than 5 miles to the shop that I was getting it tuned at. put the 3port in and began the tune. 2nd pull gave head lift and HG failure, 3rd pull well lets say I found a new in crate EJ257 short block. rod and main bearings failed. didn't get a full 3 pulls when tuning and the 205 started showing the internal engine problems of the OEM 205 parts. doing a hybrid build now and going to keep in mild as my DD Legacy gt is going to be used by a family member in need. but I will take this failure as my excuse to do my Hybrid build with a 4EAT. yes I will be having that rebuilt to if I need.
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Old 04-29-2013, 05:36 AM   #79
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That sucks. Sorry to hear it. Let us know when you rebuild.
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:31 AM   #80
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Have you considered a VF39 ?
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:55 AM   #81
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How is the mpg?

As a daily driver, that kind of tune might get expensive!
Cruise control @ 75-85 I get 28mpg highway.

Driving it like it do, which means heavy on off throttle banging on it almost non stop, driving it like I stole it, pretty much everywhere lol.

I average 24mpg city+highway.... worst I have ever seen was 22...

Still trying to video the spool up.. but I gotta find a place where its safe to hit those kinda speeds one handed while filming. I might try and drink a Coffee at the same time.

And listen to our good uncle... TUNE TUNE TUNE...
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:56 AM   #82
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It would be awesome for auto-x though
It is incredibly good for road course.. power is on/off like a switch, unless you drop below 2750... then it takes a sec to come back on.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:34 PM   #83
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I know some places sell brand new vf39+ sti turbos......but does anyone sell a brand new td04 for the 02-05 wrx? and Im not referring to any ebay/Chinese turbo.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:41 PM   #84
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:44 PM   #85
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259.1hp 242tq avg 244/238 using TD04 Prodrive parts + w/Prodrive tune + a few other mods.
19.1psi @2650 rpm.

Spoolup is insane when your hovering around 3500rpm.

1st gear hits like a rocket. Esentially Prodrive changed how the boost comes on and has it start WAY early in the pedal, so the throttle plate is still mostly closed when the wastegate closes, allows it to come on way early in the pedal and rpm, and really fast. Their engineer was a genius.

Not hitting it at max here.. but you get an idea. 2nd gear 25mph to redline pull at around 1 min... 3rd gear 55-redline pull @ 1:19sec... 25-75 pull @ 2:53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLSDbRvgj0o

I know you cant buy their parts here anymore but maybe you can use some of the theory in your tune.


For the 2.0L's where were the 'Prodrive kits" from and what did they consist of?

nvm..... it was a up pipe/dp and ic hoses and a reflash I guess like a Cobb.....but I wonder how they compared to the cobb flashes. Damn u Prodrive for leaving the US.

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Old 04-29-2013, 02:44 PM   #86
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Cruise control @ 75-85 I get 28mpg highway.

Driving it like it do, which means heavy on off throttle banging on it almost non stop, driving it like I stole it, pretty much everywhere lol.

I average 24mpg city+highway.... worst I have ever seen was 22...
Did a 7hr road trip yesterday. Stopped for gas at 300miles, pumped 10.5gals

This was my first trip of any distance since my recent upgrade, so I was interested to see what my mileage would be.

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Now around town if i'm heavy footed my gas mileage can be awful... but a lot of fun!
Completely depends on the driving.

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Old 04-29-2013, 02:50 PM   #87
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well I didn't drive that new turbo more than 5 miles to the shop that I was getting it tuned at. put the 3port in and began the tune. 2nd pull gave head lift and HG failure, 3rd pull well lets say I found a new in crate EJ257 short block. rod and main bearings failed. didn't get a full 3 pulls when tuning and the 205 started showing the internal engine problems of the OEM 205 parts. doing a hybrid build now and going to keep in mild as my DD Legacy gt is going to be used by a family member in need. but I will take this failure as my excuse to do my Hybrid build with a 4EAT. yes I will be having that rebuilt to if I need.
Holy What The ****............any answer to why these catastrophic failures occured....within 5 minutes of each other.........while tuning?
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Old 04-29-2013, 04:24 PM   #88
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Holy What The ****............any answer to why these catastrophic failures occured....within 5 minutes of each other.........while tuning?
4/23- Irish posts that he installed turbo and tmic untuned and hit the road to check it out. Reports that he's boosting, downshifting to keep rpms high for better spool, etc.

Uncle scotty reiterates that he needs a tune. He has also coincidentally quoted op for posterity.

Days pass. We can all speculate.

4/28 Irish comes back to report that car blew up after 5min of tuning. Points to ej205 internals as culprit.

@Irish- my turbo sat in my living room for almost a month waiting on parts, time, etc. I wanted to install it BAD.... like little-kid-peeking-in-the-box-every-night kinda bad. I also worked out my base tune beforehand. Now here we are a month later and it sees 21psi and redline almost daily, and I'm posting from a hotel room because I drove it 450 miles last night, my mpg avg is a couple posts up. It may blow up on the way home, who knows, but I doubt it. Stock internals, 100k+ on the block but it's maintained.

As for stock internals, search for general ti's stock ej205 on here. Hint... holset turbo. He pretty much intended for it to let go, was gonna rebuild anyway but got a lot more miles out if it than he expected.

Please try to take care of your new setup, and rip on it too
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4/23- Irish posts that he installed turbo and tmic untuned and hit the road to check it out. Reports that he's boosting, downshifting to keep rpms high for better spool, etc.

Uncle scotty reiterates that he needs a tune. He has also coincidentally quoted op for posterity.

Days pass. We can all speculate.

4/28 Irish comes back to report that car blew up after 5min of tuning. Points to ej205 internals as culprit.

@Irish- my turbo sat in my living room for almost a month waiting on parts, time, etc. I wanted to install it BAD.... like little-kid-peeking-in-the-box-every-night kinda bad. I also worked out my base tune beforehand. Now here we are a month later and it sees 21psi and redline almost daily, and I'm posting from a hotel room because I drove it 450 miles last night, my mpg avg is a couple posts up. It may blow up on the way home, who knows, but I doubt it. Stock internals, 100k+ on the block but it's maintained.

As for stock internals, search for general ti's stock ej205 on here. Hint... holset turbo. He pretty much intended for it to let go, was gonna rebuild anyway but got a lot more miles out if it than he expected.

Please try to take care of your new setup, and rip on it too
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:38 PM   #90
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For the 2.0L's where were the 'Prodrive kits" from and what did they consist of?

but I wonder how they compared to the cobb flashes. Damn u Prodrive for leaving the US.
Prodrive Stage III - was Up-pipe, Race Cat'd DP, Midpipe, Axleback, intercooler Y-Pipe, Altered Wastegate Restrictor Pill, and EcuTek Retune.

Mine also received... Prodrive (AEM) Cai, Samco Inlet, Act Streetlight Flywheel, JDM Sti intercooler, splitter, sprayer, better recirc valve, Per recommendations from the PD engineer who was assisting me, as they built the Tune for those, but didn't require them.

Much better than the COBB. its tuned for those specific parts, not some off the shelf re-map, so they can set up the tune tighter.

Part quality was amazing, and they hold warranty overseaas.
252,105 miles as of this morning... 220k of that on the mods.

I think I am the last Prodrive tuned wrx left in the US.. lol...
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:14 PM   #91
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I get 28 mpg on the highway and around 18 around town. I don't mind burning fuel when I want to step on it, but a tune like the prodrive one would eat gas for breakfast, lunch and dinner with a few snacks in between.

It would be awesome for auto-x though
I LMAO when I read this about "but a tune like the prodrive one would eat gas for breakfast, lunch and dinner with a few snacks in between".
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:36 PM   #92
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I LMAO when I read this about "but a tune like the prodrive one would eat gas for breakfast, lunch and dinner with a few snacks in between".
I know lol, had me chuckling.

You do have to re-learn to drive with the top 10% of your pedal or all the sudden your hauling ass everywhere....
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:26 PM   #93
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I get 28 mpg on the highway and around 18 around town. I don't mind burning fuel when I want to step on it, but a tune like the prodrive one would eat gas for breakfast, lunch and dinner with a few snacks in between.

It would be awesome for auto-x though

16g XTR is my vote. The bb center will give you a quick spool and throttle response like Scotty said. Also the 2.0l will always get great gas millage on the highway if you can stay out of boost.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:39 PM   #94
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I know some places sell brand new vf39+ sti turbos......but does anyone sell a brand new td04 for the 02-05 wrx? and Im not referring to any ebay/Chinese turbo.
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What sucks for us 2.0 guys is that "our" 02-05 td04's are getting old and harder to find with "low" actual miles and some donw want to go with a new "big" turbo.....So I called the dealer and checked SGP and at the price of a brand new td04 for a 02-05 wrx
https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/oe_parts_cat.html

That turbo should be $500-600 tops.

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I LMAO when I read this about "but a tune like the prodrive one would eat gas for breakfast, lunch and dinner with a few snacks in between".
I owuld LOVE to have the Prodrive kit on my wrx




Its a shame that Prodrive left and quit selling that kit. Cause I would say that ALOT of people not wanting to go with an aftermarket turbo/set up for their DD would be all over these "kits".

Damn you Prodrive

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Old 05-02-2013, 11:06 PM   #95
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Why not rebuild the td04? Just a mitsubishi chra, SUPER easy to rebuild and rebalance. Practically new after.
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:55 PM   #96
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Why not rebuild the td04? Just a mitsubishi chra, SUPER easy to rebuild and rebalance. Practically new after.
I have a fresh rebuilt td04hl-19t I would part with.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:31 AM   #97
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I'm wondering if anyone here as given the tomei ARMS m7760 a spin? (pun intended)

looks to be very similar to the big 16g turbos being put out by various companies, potentially more power available as well, one could also step up to the 7960 which seems like a 18g but more for a 2.0l

anyone have any input on those??
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:13 AM   #98
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I've got one one my 04 wrx 290 whp @17psi on a mustang dyno
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I have a fresh rebuilt td04hl-19t I would part with.

d0000000000000d....yew need to put that damned thing in the private FS forum and stop spamming these threads with that damned paperweight
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:52 AM   #100
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I know lol, had me chuckling.

You do have to re-learn to drive with the top 10% of your pedal or all the sudden your hauling ass everywhere....
haha I was reading through this thread and your info on your car etcetera..dang man your car is a beast I'm jealous. Im also looking to upgrade my stock turbo but thinking of going vf39, sti TMIC, 650cc, y pipe to go with my solid stage 2 build
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