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Old 05-03-2013, 01:01 AM   #3651
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these were shot ISO100 22mm f16 8.0sec on a cloudy day just before dark

also this was my first time using lightroom to process the photos



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Old 05-03-2013, 03:11 AM   #3652
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Might be your pp in lightroom, but the shadows are too dark. Might be the settings too. f16 seems excessive, though 8 secs at a cloudy dusk seems plenty.

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Old 05-03-2013, 03:20 AM   #3653
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Might be your pp in lightroom, but the shadows are too dark. Might be the settings too. f16 seems excessive, though 8 secs at a cloudy dusk seems plenty.
Agreed. Bring those shadows up.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:29 AM   #3654
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:12 AM   #3655
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Agreed. Bring those shadows up.

Hopefully it was shot in RAW.
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:14 AM   #3656
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Yep, it was in raw and I tend to go a bit too dark on the shadows, thanks for the input
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:20 AM   #3657
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What were you trying to achieve with 8.0s ƒ/16 ISO100? With those settings you had plenty of room to expose properly yet still underexposed.
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:29 AM   #3658
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What do you want... big twins? Slammed rally cars? Classic interiors? I've got it.

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Old 05-03-2013, 10:31 AM   #3659
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Nothing specifically, while I've been using a dslr for quite some time I really don't know a whole lot about setting up a photo (I understand what f stops, exposure, and iso do) so I'm pretty much a newbie on it
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:45 AM   #3660
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man, those NT03s are growing on me. I just hate what you have to do to fit them on the STi :/

and... so I'm not just blabbering on

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Old 05-03-2013, 12:02 PM   #3661
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What do you want... big twins? Slammed rally cars? Classic interiors? I've got it.

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Shots look great! I can't wait to make the move to full frame. Hopefully it's happening soon!
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:14 PM   #3662
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Someone said twins?

twinning by Evoked Photography, on Flickr
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:03 PM   #3663
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Here's some shots from my most recent shoot.


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Old 05-03-2013, 03:08 PM   #3664
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Here's some shots from my most recent shoot.

Shots and editing are freaking awesome! What camera and editing program?
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:23 PM   #3665
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Nothing specifically, while I've been using a dslr for quite some time I really don't know a whole lot about setting up a photo (I understand what f stops, exposure, and iso do) so I'm pretty much a newbie on it
Play with this.

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Old 05-03-2013, 03:51 PM   #3666
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Nothing specifically, while I've been using a dslr for quite some time I really don't know a whole lot about setting up a photo (I understand what f stops, exposure, and iso do) so I'm pretty much a newbie on it
That's a good start, you have basic understanding how cameras work. Your next step is understand the composition of your photo. Look up golden rules, or rule of thirds.
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:52 PM   #3667
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That's a good start, you have basic understanding how cameras work. Your next step is understand the composition of your photo. Look up golden rules, or rule of thirds.
Fully understanding exposure is a lot more important than composition, IMO.

With ISO100, /16, 8.0s exposures, Im not sure he's fully understood exposure yet.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:20 PM   #3668
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Fully understanding exposure is a lot more important than composition, IMO.

With ISO100, /16, 8.0s exposures, Im not sure he's fully understood exposure yet.
Definitely. But I thought he understands that.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:21 PM   #3669
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^^^ Yeah, I'm not understanding the use of such a small aperture. Even if he was trying to get the background in focus there isn't even enough there that f/8 couldn't have handled. It just seems like an odd combonation
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:02 PM   #3670
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did some exploring last weekend...found this on the side of the road...abandoned mental institution...couldn't resist pulling over for some pics!



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Old 05-03-2013, 09:14 PM   #3671
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ok, i do realize in hindsite that 8 seconds was overkill (kind of experimenting to see how the photos looked) i was a bit too excited mabey to have finally found my tripod. but other than for purposes for depth of field and if you want anything (such as a car driving by) to be blurred i dont know the why on exposure versus aperature. i did go back on one of the pictures and bring up the shadows



my concern is that the black areas such as the wheels end up looking somewhat washed out, also here is a before/after on another picture to show what it looked like before using lightroom (and it was shot in RAW)



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Old 05-03-2013, 09:45 PM   #3672
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ok, i do realize in hindsite that 8 seconds was overkill (kind of experimenting to see how the photos looked) i was a bit too excited mabey to have finally found my tripod. but other than for purposes for depth of field and if you want anything (such as a car driving by) to be blurred i dont know the why on exposure versus aperature. i did go back on one of the pictures and bring up the shadows

my concern is that the black areas such as the wheels end up looking somewhat washed out, also here is a before/after on another picture to show what it looked like before using lightroom (and it was shot in RAW)
The exposure wasn't the overkill factor, it was f16 that was overkill. I don't see a need for an 8s exposure, but if you had the ap @ a more reasonable level the exposure would have been shorter (assuming you were shooting in AV/AP). As Inkman pointed out and for a general rule of thumb f8 is a great point for having the foreground and background in focus equally. The only reason to shoot in AP @ f16 would be to get your shutter speed waaaaay down (like 8 seconds or so) but for this type of shot that seems to be overkill, especially since you darkened the shadows so much in PP, kinda negated the whole setup. The smaller the F# the more background blur < DOF and more light is allowed in allowing for higher shutter speeds. For a car driving by and getting a sense of motion you want to shoot in shutter priority. Set your shutter speed and let the camera figure out the correct aperture.

I don't use LR so I will let someone else comment on that.

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Old 05-03-2013, 10:35 PM   #3673
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The picture with the shadows brought up looks much better. Look at all of the detail that can be seen now! Sometimes bringing up the shadows with turn stuff gray but you can try to balance that out with adjust the blacks or manually going in with the adjustment brush to darken your desired areas. The best thing to do is go on Youtube and watch different videos on what you want to learn. I'm constantly learning new things and going back to edit old pics with new and improved techniques and experience. Keep at it!

I'm a newb myself but you will get a lot of help and great advice here.

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Old 05-04-2013, 03:51 AM   #3674
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first thank you everybody for the input, anything to help me learn to get better shots is awesome, also a note, im using a nikon d80 and i always shoot in manual, not ap/av priority, but based on what yall are say i probably need to conciously give my shots just a bit more exposiour and i see what you mean on f16, i used to take everything on the lowest possible f stop because i wasnt using a tripod so i wanted to use the fastest shutter speed as i could. next time i shoot ill try staying closer to f8 unless i want a lot of depth of field.

also, this thread is super motivating to get out and take some pictures, everybody on here takes some beautiful shots
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Old 05-04-2013, 01:02 PM   #3675
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my recommendation would always be to err on the side of over exposure rather than underexposure because it's much easier to take pixels away than it is to add pixels. I love the control that LR gives you when it comes to shadows and highlights, so fixing shots that are properly exposed or just slightly overexposed is not a problem. Any time you need to bump the exposure slider up past 1 full stop in LR, you're going to be venturing into that danger zone where the computer starts adding pixels and that's where you'll get that nasty grain in the shadows. I didn't look at your exposure, but if you were shooting at iso 100, it wouldn't hurt to bump it to 200 and go from there, it'll give you much more flexibility when it comes to aperture and shutter. I know a lot of photographers don't like to review every photo after they've just shot them, but when the subject is still like that and I have total control over the situation, I'll literally pause for 30 seconds after each snap and make sure that my exposure is proper and figure out what I need to adjust for the next one.
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