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Old 05-02-2013, 06:22 PM   #1
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Volkswagen will reportedly show off a hotter version of its GTI hatchback at this year's Worthersee show. The higher-performance GTI will debut as a concept, but is expected to preview an upcoming production model.

VW R&D boss Dr. Ulrich Hackenberg confirmed to the UK's Car Magazine that a hopped-up version of the company's seventh-generation GTI will be in attendance at this year's Worthersee show, which is scheduled to begin later this month. Hackenberg said the GTI variant will be more “realistic” than the 641 horsepower Golf GTI W12 that debuted at Worthersee in 2007.



“It won’t have as much power as the Golf GTI W12,” Hackenberg told Car. “It will be more realistic.”

While details of the car will remain a secret until the start of the Worthersee show, the faster GTI variant could offer up to 250 horsepower. Like the standard GTI, the hotter version will make due with front-wheel drive, although VW's clever E-diff should ensure precise handling.

The so-called GTI+ could make production in time for the 2015 model year. VW has a history of launching special edition GTIs on significant anniversaries, and 2015 marks the 40th anniversary of the original GTI's global debut at the 1975 Frankfurt Motor Show.

The higher-spec GTI will slot in above the standard GTI, but will still be position below the Golf R, which is expected to bow by the end of the year.

VW has already confirmed that it will unveiled a lightened version of its Audi TT at Worthersee
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:55 PM   #2
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With the 7th generation of the Golf GTI out in the open, it was only to be expected that Volkswagen would play around with one of its most recognized nameplates at this week's GTI meeting at Wörthersee in Austria, which will see the gathering of some 150,000 fans of the German automaker.
Promising to be the most radical Golf-based concept to make its way to the Wörthersee festival since the Golf GTI W12 from 2007, the new Design Vision GTI racing study was created by a team under the guidance of VW brand head of design, Klaus Bischoff.

Its standout feature is the adoption of a 3.0-liter twin-turbocharged V6 gasoline engine that replaces the stock Golf GTI Mk7's 2.0-liter four-pot with 217hp (220PS) in base trim and 227hp (230PS) in the Performance Edition grade. The six-cylinder unit churns out 496hp (503PS) and 560 Nm (413 lb-ft) of peak torque between 4,000 rpm and 6,000 rpm. Unlike the front-wheel drive GTI, the concept is fitted with an all-wheel drive system connected to a dual-clutch DSG transmission

VW says the Design Vision GTI can reach a top speed of 186 mph (299km/h) and go from 0 to 62mph (100km/h) in just 3.9 seconds, compared to 155mph (250km/h) and 6.4 seconds respectively for the Golf GTI Performance Edition.

A wide body kit allows the use of 20-inch alloy wheels shod in tires size 235/35 at the front and 275/30 at the rear axle. Stopping power comes from ceramic brake discs all around, with 380-mm discs at the front and 356 mm discs at the rear.

At 4,253 mm long, the 1,385 mm tall and 1,870 mm wide, the “Design Vision GTI” is 15 mm shorter in length, 71mm wider and it stands 57mm closer to the ground compared to the standard Golf GTI.

“We wanted to bring out the design elements of the GTI as concisely, dynamically and emotionally as we could so as to get to the heart of the fascination that this car emanates,” said Bischoff.

The concept's reworked body also sports newly styled bumpers, additional vents at the back and in front of the doors, plus a race-spec rear diffuser, while the car's interior looks to be completely revamped from the single sketch released by VW, featuring a brand new dashboard and instrument panel among others.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:28 AM   #3
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There's nothing terribly wrong with the new Golf GTI Mk7, but there's something about Volkswagen's "Design Vision GTI" track racing concept that gets our heart pumping.
It could be the 71mm (2.8 inches) wider, 57mm lower (2.2 inches) and 15mm (0.6 inches) shorter body of VW's Wörthersee Tour study with the aggressive details that exaggerate the original GTI's styling cues, or the fact that instead of the regular model's 217hp (220PS - base) / 227hp (230PS – Performance Edition), it sports a twin-turbo 3.0-liter V6 with 496hp (503PS) and 560 Nm (413 lb-ft).

Either way, VW tells us that the "Super GTI" also comes with a dual clutch gearbox (DSG) and an all-wheel drive, and is able to go from zero to 100km/h (62mph) in 3.9 seconds and reach a maximum speed of 186 mph (299km/h).

Could we ever see such a model entering production? Hard to say, as VW is keeping its cards close to its chest, but if anything else, we could see some of the elements used in future editions of the Golf.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:35 AM   #4
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I has a feeling I cannot afford this
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:22 AM   #5
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VW seems hell bent on holding on to the hot hatch title...
Which in this market is not a bad thing at all.

The ST brothers
The MS3
The Golf GTI and R
The WRX and STI... oh wait...
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:29 AM   #6
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VW seems hell bent on holding on to the hot hatch title...
Which in this market is not a bad thing at all.

The ST brothers
The MS3
The Golf GTI and R
The WRX and STI... oh wait...
You're forgetting the MS3 is basically done. Most likely no model for next year, not to mention a new car later this year.

That's not to say that I won't miss it.
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Man that looks hot. It just sucks that the residual on those cars sucks so bad that its impractical to lease. I got a quote on a base $25,000 GTI last June... $430 to lease with $1000 out of pocket for fees and first month. No thanks, I decided to go with a G37X fully loaded $48,000 car for $316 a month. Boggles my mind. I remember paying $255 for my 05 GTI.
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:50 AM   #8
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Why would you lease a 25k dollar car?

and that is a great deal on that infiniti.

Leases are okay if you can get into them with ZERO money down. That is the key.
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:51 AM   #9
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OH and Duke, I did not know the MS3 is not coming back in the next gen 3! That is horrible news. The automotive market just got a bit more boring... that is one fun, crazy little car.
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Lease because I prefer to switch cars... I would need to keep a car for 4+ years to beat the depreciation curve, which is what I did with my STI. Otherwise I would have to buy a year old or two year old car and I am not quite sure im there yet.

PS: I would never own a german car out of warranty period.
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OH and Duke, I did not know the MS3 is not coming back in the next gen 3! That is horrible news. The automotive market just got a bit more boring... that is one fun, crazy little car.
That seems to be the consensus. I believe Mazda has said this is the last year for the current MS3 (They don't seem to be selling too well. Maybe because it hasn't changed?), and the new 3 should be out later this year or so with no MS variant.
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That recessed body panel/door jam into the c pillar is something I REALLY want to see carried over to production, and then trigger a new style fling across manufacturers.
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Lease because I prefer to switch cars... I would need to keep a car for 4+ years to beat the depreciation curve, which is what I did with my STI. Otherwise I would have to buy a year old or two year old car and I am not quite sure im there yet.

PS: I would never own a german car out of warranty period.
Versus a STi where the ringland busts out of warranty?

To quote Lumberg, "Ummm, yeahhhhhhhhh"
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Versus a STi where the ringland busts out of warranty?

To quote Lumberg, "Ummm, yeahhhhhhhhh"
Had it for 4 years and 45k miles! No issues. In a lot of the cases it is the fault of the driver, even though I do agree the cars should be able to take a beating either way.
Bought for $35(after all fees), sold for $25. Thats $10K depreciation. Twenty five hundred a year. So, $200 a month to have an STI. Cant go wrong with that!
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Versus a STi where the ringland busts out of warranty?

To quote Lumberg, "Ummm, yeahhhhhhhhh"
Had it for 4 years and 45k miles! No issues. In a lot of the cases it is the fault of the driver, even though I do agree the cars should be able to take a beating either way.
Bought for $35(after all fees), sold for $25. Thats $10K depreciation. Twenty five hundred a year. So, $200 a month to have an STI. Cant go wrong with that!
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Bought mine for $31.5k in Nov '08, sold for $27k in Feb '12. That's $4.5k depreciation in 38 months. Sold it before warranty was up. Wasn't going to even chance the ring lands.

My point was you can't claim the STi is some super reliable piece. Between the VW it's a wash. Hopefully FHI fixes their **** with the new one.
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That seems to be the consensus. I believe Mazda has said this is the last year for the current MS3 (They don't seem to be selling too well. Maybe because it hasn't changed?), and the new 3 should be out later this year or so with no MS variant.
Yea that's rough but it seems like the right move for a small guy like Mazda. Also, IMO the Focus ST seems to be the better package.
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