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Old 11-01-2012, 12:25 AM   #1
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Default Kartboy Shifter+Bushings 13 WRX

I am in the process of ordering the Kartboy short shifter and bushings. However I still am unclear about several things AFTER searching around for a while.

Car is a 2013 WRX and came with the optional OEM STi short throw shifter:

1. Can I order the normal short shifter+bushings for the 08+ WRX on the kartboy website even though I have the OEM STS? (Will it fit?) I have read somewhere on here that if you have the OEM STS the linkage is different and you need to order a thinner shifter?

2. Will I notice a big difference between OEM STi STS and Kartboy STS or should I just order the bushings?

3. Can I do the install myself with just ramps?

4. My tranny whines like crazy in 2nd gear (low RPM) even more when slowing down. Also when I take my foot off the gas the car feels jerky, almost like it's going to stall. I read that this was normal but are the symptoms more severe because of the OEM STi STS?

Any info/advice is greatly appreciated!
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:41 AM   #2
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1. Yup, they are all the same now. only the 02-07 WRX ones had the narrower option on the STi ones.

2. Pretty good difference, were about 25-30% shorter than what is in there now.

3. Install is pretty easy with hand tools. Check scoobymods.com for some install pages. or look online here.

4. I think thats pretty normal sounds. They all make some whine. "its what makes a subaru a subaru"

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Old 11-01-2012, 12:52 AM   #3
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awesome, thanks!
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:01 AM   #4
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i have a 11 wrx that came with the sti sts so will chime in a bit.

tom pretty much summed it up though. i noticed a nice difference when i went to the kartboy shifter and bushings. it is worth it.

the 2nd gear sounds completely normal, mines been doing that since day one.

we did mine just off ramps with no major issues. just hand thread the rear bushing bolts so you dont cross thread them.
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:19 AM   #5
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YES on the last statement. HAND start the bolts. They go parallel to the mount, not the ground. Thats the biggest mistake people make.

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Old 11-01-2012, 01:16 PM   #6
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hope you like poprocks
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:13 PM   #7
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Hmm, my '12 WRX doe snot make a whine. However, when in low gear it will "lug" a bit and be a little herky jerky, but that is really just a function of going too slow and impacting compression and such. At least that is how I understand it.
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Old 11-02-2012, 10:19 AM   #8
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I am in the process of ordering the Kartboy short shifter and bushings. However I still am unclear about several things AFTER searching around for a while.

Car is a 2013 WRX and came with the optional OEM STi short throw shifter:

1. Can I order the normal short shifter+bushings for the 08+ WRX on the kartboy website even though I have the OEM STS? (Will it fit?) I have read somewhere on here that if you have the OEM STS the linkage is different and you need to order a thinner shifter?

2. Will I notice a big difference between OEM STi STS and Kartboy STS or should I just order the bushings?

3. Can I do the install myself with just ramps?

4. My tranny whines like crazy in 2nd gear (low RPM) even more when slowing down. Also when I take my foot off the gas the car feels jerky, almost like it's going to stall. I read that this was normal but are the symptoms more severe because of the OEM STi STS?

Any info/advice is greatly appreciated!
1. I ordered the normal 08+ WRX STS from Kartboy for my 09 with the OEM STS installed prior. Linkage is not different and it fits.

2. Can't opine as I installed both at the same time BUT - it's apparent the bushings do the most to "tighten up" the sloppiness on the OEM shifter, even the OEM STS. There is a big difference installing both. Installing only the bushings, I can imagine there will be a noticable difference, but probably not as significant.

3. Yes, I installed mine with a jack and stands, socket wrench, snap ring pilers and other various hand tools.

4. Symptoms aren't due to the STS - dump the clutch while deccelerating and the car is going to jerk. There is a bit more in cabin transmission whine after install in 1st and 2nd gear, under 20 mph. The trade-off is worth it. It makes daily and spirited driving a lot more fun.

Had my car for about 2 months now and I ordered the Kartboy STS, knuckleball shift knob and bushings within the first 2 weeks. The only regret I have is not ordering it as soon as I drove off the lot.

...and I think they send suckers now, not poprocks.....
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Old 11-02-2012, 10:35 AM   #9
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Depends on the package. small flatpacks will get poprocks most of the time. all others will get a fireball or lemonhead.
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:34 PM   #10
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Just finished my install of the front and rear bushings and had a few questions:

1. After installing the front bushings, the stabilizer bar? still moves around within the bushings. Meaning, the circle that the two bushings go into on each side slides back and fourth a little between the front bushings...is this normal? It doesn't move too much, maybe 3-4mm.

2. How do you fit a torque wrench into the front bushings? Its way too tight for me to get one in there...so I only tightened it 2-3 turns.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:50 PM   #11
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YES on the last statement. HAND start the bolts. They go parallel to the mount, not the ground. Thats the biggest mistake people make.

Tom
Not to get too far off of topic, but when I installed on rear bushing on my 2011, it was harder than heck to get the thread started. I had to use my wrench to get the second one on. I finally got it on, but it went on pretty hard. Its snug, I hope i didn't end up cross threading it on.

Because its on now, im scared to take it off, with the fear that i may not be able to get it back on. Any advice?
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:32 PM   #12
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Not to get too far off of topic, but when I installed on rear bushing on my 2011, it was harder than heck to get the thread started. I had to use my wrench to get the second one on. I finally got it on, but it went on pretty hard. Its snug, I hope i didn't end up cross threading it on.

Because its on now, im scared to take it off, with the fear that i may not be able to get it back on. Any advice?
Does your front wiggle between the bushings a little?
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:46 PM   #13
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Does your front wiggle between the bushings a little?
No, the front bushings are tight.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:34 AM   #14
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Default Kartboy front bushing too small with SPT shift linkage

I have a 2012 WRX and just bought kartboy shift bushings and short shifter. Already have the SPT short shifter linkages. I pulled the front bushing out and went to try and pop the kartboy bushings in and one side goes in snug like it should and the other side goes in and is loose. The kartboy bushing can spin freely and fall right out. Has anyone experienced this issue with installing the bushings, and what can be done to add a little more to the diameter of the bushing? I have been looking all over and can't find a good solid answer for a fix.
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