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Old 05-08-2013, 02:31 PM   #51
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I bought a set as well, but they showed up the day after i got to my deployment. They are currently waiting for me to get back stateside. I'll be sure to hit you up when I get back.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:40 AM   #52
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I bought a set as well, but they showed up the day after i got to my deployment. They are currently waiting for me to get back stateside. I'll be sure to hit you up when I get back.
That sucks. Anyway stay safe out there.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:47 AM   #53
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i just installed weather tech headlamp overlays to protect these lovely lamps. The kit came with lamp and fog light film and the install was straight forward but i ran into a problem.
The kit was for baja headlamp and fitting it to S401 headlamp was a bit challenging. Once i post up the pics, everyone can see and give me feedback.
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:01 AM   #54
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Thanks, that info will be good to know when i get back.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:40 PM   #55
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Hey, I'm back, how much metal and where did you need to trim to install the lights?
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Old 08-20-2013, 05:29 PM   #56
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Old 09-13-2013, 04:18 PM   #57
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So.. I hate to be "that guy", but those are not S401 headlights.

They are standard run-of-the-mill D-type headlights from Japan. They were used on all models from Late 2001 and 2002.


Blitzens for the same years are the same lights but with silver trim.


S401, RSK S-edition, and GTB S-edition had the same lights but with chrome trim.



Either way, those D-type lights look real good on the Baja.
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Old 09-13-2013, 06:10 PM   #58
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These lamps came from a B4 Legacy S401 from Japan. How they were acquired it's another story.

Yes blitzen's were silver. My beast has the original OEM.



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Old 09-14-2013, 01:54 PM   #59
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That is most likely not an S401.

The lights are wrong (as I stated before), the grill is wrong (that is a catalog "dress-up" grill, the 401 grill was chrome around the edge and not raised in the shape of a star), and the hood scoop is wrong (that is a standard turbo scoop, the S401 scoop is a restricted part and can only be purchased if you prove that you own an S401).

These may be small details, but they some of what makes an S401 an S401.

This is what the nose of a real S401 looks like:
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Old 09-14-2013, 11:45 PM   #60
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Well this a Baja with B4 Legacy s401 headlamps and yes they had to be black because I have blacked out the Baja. No metallic gray or chrome around the car and that is how I want it. I have a ported vf43 from a STI installed and other goodies and and it doesn't make the Baja an STI.
So trying to make a case about the legitimacy of these headlamps is irrelevant when I had intentions purchasing black lens or housing instead of the grey ones. I wish I had taken pictures of them outside because they have factory yellow stickers advising about HD bulbs.
All in all, these lamps are made for the S401 regardless who made them and that is why I titled this thread "Finally MY S401 headlamps are in".

Thanks for the constructive criticism.
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Old 09-15-2013, 09:35 AM   #61
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If you re-read what I had said. I posted that they do indeed look good on your Baja. I think that these lights look fantastic myself..

I fully understand wanting black lights on your black Baja.. but being black lights means that they are not from an S401 nor are they even made for one. All that means is that they are the same shape as them.

If someone sold them to you specifically as S401 lights, they lied to you. If they charged you more money because they "were from a super rare car".. then they ripped you off.

Again, those are made for any non-special edition Japanese Legacy that falls within the D-type classification which would be from June of 2001 to December of 2002. They were part of the front end facelift, and everything that had HIDs had those lights. Yes they are Subaru OEM, yes they are genuine JDM lights, no they are not from an S401.

I agree with how good they look, I did the entire facelift on my own Outback H6 Sedan including these black D-type lights.
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Old 09-15-2013, 09:07 PM   #62
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So much *facepalm* in these last few posts...

rkrenicki is 100% spot on. He and I both have first hand experience with an S401. Very deep first hand experience. Have any doubts?

rkrenicki, the S401, me, and a Blitzen6, all next to each other:



The engine bay of the S401:


Sitting in the driver's seat:



The VIN plate (BES applied model is ONLY for authentic S401s):



Hell, I even got an oil change with the damn thing.



And he and I both know these cars inside and out. Literally. We've taken the damn thing apart.



So there should be no doubt we know more about this car than you. That said, look at the headlights on this car.



See that? They are the smoked chrome. That is what came on every S401 stock. No S401 ever got black headlights from factory.

I have both types in my possession right now. On my car is the S401 style, and in my hand is the B4 style.



Very similar, but not the same. They have different part numbers. Go ahead and email Subaru of Japan, and ask for the part number for a headlight off of a Legacy with the applied model BES (which only the S401 had) and compare it to yours. They won't be the same number.

We've been importing parts for these cars for years now. We know what to look for, because if we don't, we get screwed. I've imported thousands of dollars worth of parts for this car, including 4 sets of headlights, not to mention the entire front end that is needed to remedy those gaps that the new headlights create.

Remember, the seller has one goal - to make as much money as possible. They are going to tell you what ever they have to to get you to spend your cash on their lights. I assure you though, every run-of-the-mill Legacy in '01 and '02 came with the black lights.





You're literally pitting verified Subaru information against what a seller told you to sell you the headlights for a higher price. I got my headlights for $200, I bet you probably paid more than that, correct? All I'm saying is if you want to ignore the completely legitimate and documented (by Subaru themselves) information we are trying to give to you, you may continue to pay for overpriced parts. But I just thought I would try to set the record straight, since there seems to be so much confusion about Legacy parts. Either learn from your mistakes, or keep making them. If you need any more proof that backs this post, tell me. It is much easier for me to find proof for me to back rkrenicki's point than it is for you to back yours, because so far, your sources include your seller and google images. He and I have first hand experience and hours of reading through Subaru service manuals.
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Old 09-18-2013, 11:22 PM   #63
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Here we go with another hero to save the day. Listen guys, when I named the thread, i had no intentions of deceiving anyone here because I am a grown man. No kiddie games here because i make enough to play hard. Anyway when I received these lamps I was content in making the first Baja with these lamps. Yes it was sold as S401 lamps and yes they were used and not from a cereal box from China. They looked legit and installed them with Help from another subaru legacy forum member.
Congrats to you guys for having all your vast knowledge and experiences with real S401's but remember this. The damn Baja is a hybrid of all models and finding something and making fit is a victory for me. So my point is if I find something that I have interest and name it whatever, it's my problem.
One thing I will give anyone here is respect because we are all grown ups.
Since texting and email's can misinterpreted or misunderstood, i my apologize on my and accept your props about my Baja
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Old 09-20-2013, 02:56 PM   #64
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TL;DR, From one person with CDO to another. Calm the hell down and learn which battles to pick. I agree with Baja's last post, they look good he never claimed then authentic so writing something as long as my thesis about headlights? Really?! It's nice out, go play, get the subaru dirty.
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Old 09-20-2013, 02:59 PM   #65
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Boy, I hate "sexual intellectuals"! (f***ing know it alls) The Baja still looks amazing though.

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Old 09-20-2013, 04:40 PM   #66
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I think you misunderstood my posts.

Yes, those are authentic Subaru branded (or well, Koito branded since they actually make the lights for Subaru) JDM lights, not "from a cereal box from China"... whatever that is supposed to mean.. They are just the normal OEM lights available on all Non-Special models in Japan from late 2001 to the end of 2002.

I do respect you for putting those lights on a Baja, you cannot even see the gaps that they have on USDM chassis because of the black paint.. If your Baja were any other color, it would not look nearly as good. For example, here is a picture of these lights on my 04 Outback Sedan before I changed out the hood and bumper with the correct ones for the lights. On my silver car, the gaps are very pronounced:



My issue is that the thread is full of them being called what they are not.

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he never claimed then authentic
If that is you saying he never said they were really from a S401.. then..

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These lamps came from a B4 Legacy S401 from Japan.
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Well this a Baja with B4 Legacy s401 headlamps and yes they had to be black because I have blacked out the Baja.
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All in all, these lamps are made for the S401 regardless who made them and that is why I titled this thread "Finally MY S401 headlamps are in".
and.. the *Title* of the thread says that they are.
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Old 09-20-2013, 10:01 PM   #67
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TL;DR, From one person with CDO to another. Calm the hell down and learn which battles to pick. I agree with Baja's last post, they look good he never claimed then authentic so writing something as long as my thesis about headlights? Really?! It's nice out, go play, get the subaru dirty.
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Old 09-29-2013, 06:16 PM   #68
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TL;DR, From one person with CDO to another. Calm the hell down and learn which battles to pick. I agree with Baja's last post, they look good he never claimed then authentic so writing something as long as my thesis about headlights? Really?! It's nice out, go play, get the subaru dirty.
Assuming I fight every battle? I never post on this forum unless I need to clear up information, because it is small stuff like this that makes my job harder when a flood of people head to a Legacy specific forum and try to butt heads with the people who compile information just like this. I'm not calling anyone stupid, I'm giving you the correct information. There was a time when I didn't know the difference either. I may be OCD about this stuff, but that is only because I spend so much time trying to prevent people from getting screwed by eBay sellers and spreading misinformation. NASIOC as a whole doesn't seem to appreciate verified information but I thought I try to help a fellow Legacy enthusiast understand what parts they actually have.

Also, don't blatantly say you didn't read my post and try to comment on the situation. Understand the point I'm trying to make here before you take a side. I'm not attacking anyone for their choice in headlights, I'm clarifying info.
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Old 09-29-2013, 08:26 PM   #69
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Hey let's move on and let this thread serve it's purpose for future interests of other Baja owners about differences of OEM and aftermarket. When i purchased my lamps from a legit person from Japan, not from ebay, from another forum, he never expressed they came out of a S401. When i received them they were used but not off fresh from a sweat shop from china. I can show the thread how about i acquired this lamps but it really doesn't matter. All I can is that it was from a legacy and it should fit in the Baja. I took my chances like we all do when we mod our cars and waallllaaahh, I made the lamps fit and they work and look &)/@-$; good. Like i mentioned before let this be a learning lesson. Someone Just retrofitted "s401" lamps into a baja as well and it should good in his car as well.
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When i purchased my lamps from a legit person from Japan, not from ebay, from another forum, he never expressed they came out of a S401.
He may not have, but *you* are.

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When i received them they were used but not off fresh from a sweat shop from china.
You keep saying that, and I really do not understand why. We are not telling you that they are knock-off lights.. They are authentic Subaru OEM lights. I have stated that a few times now, so I really do not understand why you keep saying that.

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All I can is that it was from a legacy and it should fit in the Baja. I took my chances like we all do when we mod our cars and waallllaaahh, I made the lamps fit and they work and look &)/@-$; good. Like i mentioned before let this be a learning lesson.
I give you "props" for that. You did not know if it would work, and you tried it anyways.

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Someone Just retrofitted "s401" lamps into a baja as well and it should good in his car as well.
And.. again.. back with the problem that I have with this thread. They are absolutely in no way "S401" Lamps.

It may be a small thing but it would be like taking some headlights out of a Legacy L, the single bulb kind.. and calling them Outback lights. Yes, they are the same shape and would physically fit.. but they are not Outback lights.
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:26 PM   #71
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^^^*^**^^^^^^^^^^^^

When i purchased the S401 headlamps from Ebay, they were labeled from new from a subaru vendor. I have the photos when I bought them as so I can show that they were supposed to fit new from a subaru vendor. I have the photos when I bought them as so I can show that they were supposed to fit can show that they were supposed to fit. They did and looked awesome.

You see i can write whatever I feel like because I can. Very confusing right but it must be my degree that helps to attract trolls that have this burning desire to prosecute people with keyboard. Since I enjoy writing whatever I feel like just to keep trolls ticking, we can go on with this forever. I can spare 5 minutes of my time replying to your unlimited knowledge about Subaru's. Should I care what you know about cars, nahhh especially when you had to write a thesis about stupid headlamps.
Thanks again hero for ruining a thread that you could have left it alone to open other Baja enthusiast ideas about options to their cars.

I am shopping around for a 2010 sti hood so i can replace the scoop of a STI to the Baja.
All right hero, what should I name my Baja hood with an STI scoop. I need to know that so I can accurately name the thread so I don't have to read another thesis.

By the way, can I get a thesis on all of my upgrades
VF43 turbo
STI intercooler
Aeromotive high pressure fuel pump
Utec with remote switch
Subaru cold air intake
GFB blow off valve
Siilicone hoses Mishimoto radiator
Heads redone with resurface
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Custom made driveshaft because i keep breaking OEM ones
Subaru 4/2 pots with adapters from Japan, secret sources
And S401 headlamps I like that one.
Stainless exhaust 3" with catted downpipe
and some other goodies.

Again thanks for your input but I never asked for it. Write what have to write And I promise I will do my best to feed into your replies and reply again. I will be waiting. Btw, you can use the. Pm box if you.....

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Old 09-30-2013, 11:46 PM   #72
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Old 10-01-2013, 10:20 AM   #73
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Wait.. You are calling me a "troll" because I am trying to give you correct information, and that you refuse to listen to reason or even hard proof?

To quote The Princess Bride.. "I do not think that word means what you think it means"..

But fine, you believe what you want to believe. I am out.
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:46 PM   #74
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Me too
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