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Old 05-13-2013, 07:43 PM   #1
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So this might take a bit of back story but ill keep it short for now.

I own two 2013 WRX base models, one wrb, and the other black.

I purchased both new in November of 2012. The WRB had 20 miles on it and the black had 3 miles.

The problem that I have is they drive like totally different cars. I've even had a few friends drive them both and they all say the same thing. The black one is sloppy and has a lot of body roll.

Tire pressure is almost identical, I've even changed the pressure to make sure it wasn't that.

I've heard stories where the wrong parts have been put on cars during assembly. Is it possible they may have put the wrong suspension on the car? Should I take it in to a dealership or are they going to call me crazy?
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:55 PM   #2
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I won't call you crazy but it's almost guaranteed that the tech will drive it for 2mins then park it and say no problem found or could not duplicate.
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:35 PM   #3
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You can always get under them to compare.

Are the sway bars the same size? Are the end links working/fitted properly?

Do the struts look the same?

What about the springs?

You have them side by side, take a look.

It can't hurt to take it in for them to look. I'm sure as what was said above, they probably won't find any thing, but let them see for sure.
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:42 PM   #4
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I just got under them, they look as they should, identical. Is there anything in the steering that's computer controlled that could make it deal less responsive? I've had other cars that had speed sensitive steering, is there anything like that on these?
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Old 05-15-2013, 03:30 PM   #5
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Maybe the camber bolt upfront
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:06 AM   #6
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Get a good performance alignment on both, if you haven't already - try to get the specs as identical as possible...then drive both.

Factory alignments are performed "within spec" so there can be a wide range of variance from one car to another.
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Old 05-17-2013, 11:58 AM   #7
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I'd like to see where this goes. My cars steering wheel is not straight when the car drives straight. They've aligned it twice, I've even held the wheel the 2nd they did it. Road is flat as can be, still pulls.

What good is the 25K alignment machine if the monkey using it has no idea what he's doing?

Also, can someone confirm this. I was told our steering is drive-by-wire like the throttle. Is this true?
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Old 05-17-2013, 12:44 PM   #8
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I'd like to see where this goes. My cars steering wheel is not straight when the car drives straight. They've aligned it twice, I've even held the wheel the 2nd they did it. Road is flat as can be, still pulls.

What good is the 25K alignment machine if the monkey using it has no idea what he's doing?

Also, can someone confirm this. I was told our steering is drive-by-wire like the throttle. Is this true?
I think Sam at Andrewtech told me his 3G wrx had this issue, the steering wheel was actually a spline off and the dealer pulled the wheel and put it on straight. Might be worth looking into.
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Old 05-17-2013, 03:11 PM   #9
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I think Sam at Andrewtech told me his 3G wrx had this issue, the steering wheel was actually a spline off and the dealer pulled the wheel and put it on straight. Might be worth looking into.
I will have to do that. It's getting really annoying
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:40 PM   #10
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I'd like to see where this goes. My cars steering wheel is not straight when the car drives straight. They've aligned it twice, I've even held the wheel the 2nd they did it. Road is flat as can be, still pulls. What good is the 25K alignment machine if the monkey using it has no idea what he's doing? Also, can someone confirm this. I was told our steering is drive-by-wire like the throttle. Is this true?
Something easy you could try is swapping font tires left to right and see if I changes direction wheel is off. Saw this happen only one time, drove me crazy because tires were new, no signs of tread being messed up and I aligned it 3 times and every time I put it back on rack the measurements were always where they were the time before.

And no wrx are not electric p/s
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:48 PM   #11
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is this a riddle?

my answer is one is a sedan and the other is a hatch.
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:57 PM   #12
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is this a riddle?

my answer is one is a sedan and the other is a hatch.
This is a good question for the OP.
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Old 05-18-2013, 05:17 PM   #13
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They are both wagons.


So yesterday I went to pick up a cargo net at a local subaru dealership. I talked to a tech about the problem and he suggested I bring it in and tell the service writer that its not handeling correctly. He started to give me the crazy customer look and I explained to him that I can live with it and I'm willing to dump money into new sway bars and end links if that's what it comes down to. He than took me seriously and we talked about how I'm in an odd situation and might be one of the only customers he's seen that has 2 identical cars with the same mileage making it hard to just blow it off.


So it's going in on Tuesday for him to tell me there's nothing wrong with it.
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Old 05-18-2013, 06:15 PM   #14
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I'd bring both in so they can do the comparison themselves.
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Old 05-21-2013, 08:44 PM   #15
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What I thought would happen, happened. Tech drove the car around 6 miles, looked at it for 15 minutes and said it was perfect. I offered to have them drive the second one and the service writer started talking about how no 2 engines have the same power.

So, I'm going to search around and find some nice swaybars and end links an see it that helps. Ill just keep upgrading the suspension till I'm happy with it.

On a side note, I brought up that sometimes when I get out of the car I hear a metallic clank from the drivers side rear. He said it was my heat shield on the cat. I can't reproduce the noise, happens around 5% of the times I get out of the car.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:27 PM   #16
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You can always get a set of the Bilstein struts with RCE springs. I happen to have a set of the struts for sell.
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:58 AM   #17
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What I thought would happen, happened. Tech drove the car around 6 miles, looked at it for 15 minutes and said it was perfect. I offered to have them drive the second one and the service writer started talking about how no 2 engines have the same power.

So, I'm going to search around and find some nice swaybars and end links an see it that helps. Ill just keep upgrading the suspension till I'm happy with it.

On a side note, I brought up that sometimes when I get out of the car I hear a metallic clank from the drivers side rear. He said it was my heat shield on the cat. I can't reproduce the noise, happens around 5% of the times I get out of the car.
Instead of just throwing new parts on, why not get both properly aligned like I suggested previously.

And when I say properly aligned, I don't mean within factory spec.
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:45 PM   #18
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alignment. Boom.
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:08 PM   #19
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Bring both of the cars back to the dealer ASAP.

Speak with the Subaru dealer Manager/VP and Technician at the same time. Have them observe and ride with them both as a passenger explaining your issues and remarks.

Write down what you notice and be prepared to back yourself on the reasons why you feel the ride is different on 2 of the exact same cars, (excluding the color of the cars).

Good Luck.
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