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Old 05-21-2013, 10:55 AM   #26
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Do you guys think a Cobb accessport would do the job as a tune? I mean, could i use it essentially to tune the car by myself? I found a good deal for one (200 bucks) and its better than 500 but if it won't suffice then i won't get it.
If the only mods on the car are the dp, catback, and aem intake then a Cobb AP is your best bet. Then you can run the OTS stage 2 AEM tune.

By the way I highly doubt a dealer would change the tune on a used cat they get. If they "reset the ECU" the tune would still remain. They would have to overwrite the existing tune and they wouldn't do that (probably don't even have the ability at an infinity dealership)

And 18psi sounds very normal
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:05 PM   #27
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If someone left the downpipe in but switched the tune to normal and took the accessport/tune away then you will go boom. My friend did this on trade in with his WRX.....left the DP in with SPT exhaust but changed the tune to stock so the dealer would up the trade in value and he kept the AP because he went from an 08 to '13 wrx. It got him 3K more in trade in, but I feel bad for whoever bought it and doesn't know.
Your friend is a complete prick and I hope his new car blows up.

People like that are such ********. I mean seriously, you KNOWINGLY hand off a car that is without a tune that the next guy will have to 'figure out' or be out a ton of money for repairs.

Karma will get your friend, and probably you since you're friends with such people.
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Old 05-21-2013, 01:21 PM   #28
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Do you guys think a Cobb accessport would do the job as a tune? I mean, could i use it essentially to tune the car by myself? I found a good deal for one (200 bucks) and its better than 500 but if it won't suffice then i won't get it.
On a car like this, that might not be the best practice. I went through a similar debacle when I got my car. What I did was first, take off the stupid mods (Blow off valve and cold air intake). Then I bought and AccessPort, and discovered the car had a tune on it, though it wasn't a very good one. I messed around with the Cobb OTS stage 2 maps for a while, but was still having issues. At that point I contacted Torqued Performance and started working with Eric on an E-tune.

Right now, I couldn't be happier . The E-tunes are affordable ($70-150ish + AccessPort) and are specific to YOUR car. If you want to take it even further you can get a Protune from a shop, but that's more money.

$200 for an AccessPort is scary cheap. Keep in mind there are specific models for each generation. You need AP-SUB-003:
http://www.cobbtuning.com/Subaru-Acc...ap-sub-003.htm

If you do buy a used AccessPort, make sure it's UNMARRIED. Otherwise it's garbage.

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Old 05-21-2013, 01:23 PM   #29
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Your friend is a complete prick and I hope his new car blows up.

People like that are such ********. I mean seriously, you KNOWINGLY hand off a car that is without a tune that the next guy will have to 'figure out' or be out a ton of money for repairs.

Karma will get your friend, and probably you since you're friends with such people.
3k more? Hate to say it, but I'd do the same...Or at least try to convince the dealer why they need to keep the AP.
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Old 05-21-2013, 01:55 PM   #30
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3k more? Hate to say it, but I'd do the same...Or at least try to convince the dealer why they need to keep the AP.
Oh please 3k more, that's such a lie. All he had to do was leave the AP in the glove box and move on with life. Him removing or leaving the tune in there did nothing for the resale value either way. Hell the dealership wouldn't even know either way unless explicity stated. As it is the dealership loses too because they will invariably have a customer that bought said car come back to them with repair issues if it goes boom.
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Old 05-21-2013, 06:47 PM   #31
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I'm going to say he was telling the truth. I'm in CO so they know what to look for. I'm sure they love the TX buyers though, they seem to not know that a mechanic can plug into their car to see if it is modded =). An ECU check is not hard to do and takes literally less than a minute. I'm trading my '09 for a '13 and when I did the "trade-in" inspection they knew I had a stage one tune (accessport was at home and I'm changing it to 100% stock before trade in). The dealer gave me 2 numbers and for me it was, "18K as is, 20K if back to stock so we can make it Subaru Certified". Leaving evidence of modding makes resale value go down, at least up here.

Also, I totally agree it was a jerk move to leave it untuned with DP, but it is why I won't buy a used WRX/STI in CO. I'm changing mine back the right way.

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