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Old 06-17-2013, 04:16 PM   #1
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I have a 2012 wrx hatch. This Thursday it goes in for a 3rd warranty trip. The first was transmission issues at 750 miles requiring a 1st and 2nd gear rebuild. 2nd trip in was for a hard start with a cloud of smoke at about 1500 miles, dealer stated it had flooded and keep an eye on it. Now it's going in for the rear seat rattle that started after I put the seat down to haul some long gun cases.

Is build quality really this bad I can expect to need warranty work as often as I change my oil? I don't want to sound likes a whiny ******* but for what I paid for my car, is it wrong to expect better quality?

I do love the car otherwise, it's fun to drive, is good in the snow, gets decent gas mileage and is still pretty practical.
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:38 PM   #2
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What happened with the transmission? My guess on that is user error.

Motor flooding? That's a new one. Fluke maybe?

And subarus are known for interior rattles.

Nothing too out of the ordinary.
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:39 PM   #3
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Flooded?

Did you replace the fuel injection with individual throttle bodies, or something?

If you want to worry about Subaru build quality, worry about head gaskets and ring lands.
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:56 PM   #4
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According to the tech working on the car, 1st and 2nd gear were out of tolerance requiring a full rebuild of those gears. It was an issue from the day I picked it up where it would intermittently pop out of first while driving slow like through a parking lot.

I was surprised when they said it had flooded, the dealer stated sometimes the injectors will leak or not close and cause a flooded scenario. This was new to me. It has happened a total of 2 times.

The rattles I knew to expect before I bought the car. I do get small rattles and vibrations in the interior panels and trim but the rear seats are full on clunking, almost like a strut clunk. I know it's the seat because I can lay them down and it stops.
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Old 06-17-2013, 05:33 PM   #5
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Yea interior rattles we get all the time with Subarus (I work in parts for a subaru dealer), but as for the tranny and the flood prob that is a first I have ever heard of either on a brand new car. Maybe start looking for a trade in without so many issues but then again you have a newly rebuilt tranny and you now know you prob wont ever have fuel issues anytime soon at least so maybe worth holding on to since everything has been fixed. Def sounds like your dealers been taking care of you with issues so hopefully the problems dont push you away from subaru cause there great cars and lots of fun to drive.
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:17 PM   #6
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Honestly I don't mind the little rattles and occasional vibration but when it sounds like a broken strut or exhaust bumping against the bottom of the car, that crosses the line. I paid almost double for this car than I did for my ranger and my ranger had 1 issue in 5 years and I beat the hell out of that truck. I have babied my wrx compared to my truck.
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:24 PM   #7
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Honestly I don't mind the little rattles and occasional vibration but when it sounds like a broken strut or exhaust bumping against the bottom of the car, that crosses the line. I paid almost double for this car than I did for my ranger and my ranger had 1 issue in 5 years and I beat the hell out of that truck. I have babied my wrx compared to my truck.
Therein lies the problem. Take it out and go Pastrana all over that bitch!
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:43 PM   #8
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Therein lies the problem. Take it out and go Pastrana all over that bitch!
LOL..
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:48 PM   #9
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You just got some bad luck.

I would ditch that car and get another.

You are going to pay for it though.
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:56 PM   #10
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You just got some bad luck.

I would ditch that car and get another.

You are going to pay for it though.
You have no idea, I'm just barely a step above bad luck Brian.

I know Subaru has a guaranteed trade in for 2-3 years at my dealer but I wonder if that applies only when buying a new Subaru?
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:03 PM   #11
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i be more curious what the dealer/SOA would do if they get the car? make sure everyone knows if its issues.
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Old 06-18-2013, 09:41 AM   #12
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You could always do some sound proofing/noise dampening in your car if it bothers you that much. Tie the cables and surround them in foam. Use noise dampening foam in the inner compartments. Put a sound blanket or noise dampening material in the trunk compartment. Spend a couple hundred bucks and read the sound proofing stickies in the interior section and you can make it much quieter. If it bothers you that much trade it in for a BMW our an Audi. If you want a sports car and a quiet ride, stay away from econoboxes.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:44 PM   #13
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What happened with the transmission? My guess on that is user error.
Yes because no manufacturer ever has shipped out a new car with a bad transmission lol. You would have to seriously beat on a transmisson to wreck gears by only 750 miles. My guess is that it was a poorly manufactured transmission. It happens.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:23 PM   #14
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I know Subaru has a guaranteed trade in for 2-3 years at my dealer but I wonder if that applies only when buying a new Subaru?
Guaranteed trade in?

All that "guarantee" says is that they will let you trade your car in and will give you the "highest possible trade-in value" for your car when you buy a new model.

Cliffs Notes: If you trade your car in you will still get ****ed like the rest of us would.

Unless they are willing to give you KBB value for private sale then you will be better off selling it and just buying a new one.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:35 PM   #15
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I owe about $1k less than kbb "good" condition trade-in value.

The GTP through Subaru is a higher value when buying up to a newer model year Subaru.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:51 PM   #16
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Well it is up to you. Depends on your needs at the time.
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:17 AM   #17
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Yes because no manufacturer ever has shipped out a new car with a bad transmission lol. You would have to seriously beat on a transmisson to wreck gears by only 750 miles. My guess is that it was a poorly manufactured transmission. It happens.
The gears could be destroyed in a matter of minutes if you wanted to.
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Old 06-20-2013, 02:36 PM   #18
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The gears could be destroyed in a matter of minutes if you wanted to.
You can destroy any engine in a matter of minutes if you wanted to so what's your point? I could see synchro damage over 750 miles if the driver was new to transmissions but having gears go out that early usually points to a manufacturing defect. Anything is possible but driving a manual transmission isn't really that hard and unless the user is extremely incompetent it's a stretch to point to user error.
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Old 06-20-2013, 04:43 PM   #19
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LOL!!! I've been driving stick for near 20yrs now. So it wasn't me that destroyed it.

Driving a bunch of other vehicles today. Finding myself gravitating to the quad cab 4x4 trucks. The cars nowadays are pretty uninspiring until you get over $40k.
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Old 06-21-2013, 12:06 AM   #20
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Well, I traded it in. The tech told me to expect to have to get the bump-stops on the rear seat adjusted regularly due to the body flex on the hatch. This is unacceptable, I have never had to do this on any car ever.

So off to the dealers I went. I ended up with a 2013 Frontier Pro4x quad cab. It has plenty of power and now I can jump ****.

I guess I'll keep an eye out for an old bugeye or something as a project.
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Old 06-22-2013, 05:19 PM   #21
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Wtf..
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:10 PM   #22
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wrong thread...

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Old 06-23-2013, 06:44 AM   #23
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I was driving my Mom's '11 Impreza while she was out of town and at 26k miles there is already a very noticeable rattle in the rear hatch area when starting in 1st from a stop. Nothing mechanical is a problem so far and I don't expect it to be in the future, but the interiors fall apart and start rattling like a mother****er very quickly.

Not really sure what the exact issue with your car is this time...rattles are just a part of driving a Subaru. The transmission and flooding issue seem like either a manufacturer defect or you driving the car like you stole it. Without knowing more no one can really say.
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Old 06-23-2013, 12:02 PM   #24
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I have 2636 miles in my car and the interior is already rattling... Its one of those things you cant avoid driving in NY
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Old 06-24-2013, 10:08 PM   #25
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Mine has just developed a door pillar rattle at 6k miles in addition to the dash rattles and other assorted rattles... Ahhh, what makes a Subaru a Subaru!
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